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Dwayne Hicks

(637 posts)
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:04 AM Feb 2015

Its pretty appalling about the MVP

Like these players don't make enough money they are given a free $50K automobile as well. But I guess thats ok they "earned" it.

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Its pretty appalling about the MVP (Original Post) Dwayne Hicks Feb 2015 OP
I get your point but a Chevy Colorado is no where close to $50,000 itsrobert Feb 2015 #1
There are a lot of things in this world to be worried about Renew Deal Feb 2015 #2
Not really Dwayne Hicks Feb 2015 #3
This is more important than measles, the middle east, Ukraine, Euro finance, African war, etc? Renew Deal Feb 2015 #5
Why do I have to pick? Dwayne Hicks Feb 2015 #6
It's called "Marketing." ..nt TeeYiYi Feb 2015 #8
How is it a giveaway when only one person can get it? arcane1 Feb 2015 #10
Hell. Poor people win cars on Wheel of Fortune, too. nt elias49 Feb 2015 #17
While professional athletes make what I consider to be an obscene amount of money, Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #51
Paul Krugman suggests salaries pro sports players receive helped spur rise in CEO salaries KittyWampus Feb 2015 #39
He will probably give it edhopper Feb 2015 #4
Yes, pretty sure the truck will go to charity. Marrah_G Feb 2015 #11
Hell I'd give it to the kid sharp_stick Feb 2015 #12
yes dembotoz Feb 2015 #30
That would be a good choice too nt edhopper Feb 2015 #31
That's what the players always do. hifiguy Feb 2015 #52
Consider it a tip. Downwinder Feb 2015 #7
I find more appaling people who watch the whole thing and nitpick about it CBGLuthier Feb 2015 #9
Someone has to play the role of "over-the-top liberal" arcane1 Feb 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Feb 2015 #14
I was upset that JJ Watts was not MVP Gothmog Feb 2015 #15
who got MVP? grasswire Feb 2015 #16
He only threw four touchdown passes and set the Super Bowl record for most completions onenote Feb 2015 #20
Because those two picks didn't happen? (nt) Recursion Feb 2015 #27
Yes they happened onenote Feb 2015 #38
I think a person could toss four picks, lose two fumbles, get flagged for Unsportsmanlike Conduct... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2015 #42
???? WinkyDink Feb 2015 #24
And to give it to that cheater Brady, who threw two interceptions. Patriots didn't win, Seahawks adigal Feb 2015 #18
Oh man sharp_stick Feb 2015 #19
That was his IMMEDIATE reaction to losing the Super Bowl. Goblinmonger Feb 2015 #43
Oh no Sherman wasn't whining sharp_stick Feb 2015 #45
OK. My bad. Goblinmonger Feb 2015 #47
I can see how it came across like that sharp_stick Feb 2015 #50
Actually, both happened. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #21
And Seahawks fans will have until next September to whine about it. onenote Feb 2015 #22
Wow, in denial much? Justice Feb 2015 #23
So Brady didnt throw two interceptions? And Seattle didn't practically throw the game adigal Feb 2015 #33
You make the same error as announcers have been doing: ASSuming a run would not have been stopped. WinkyDink Feb 2015 #25
Well, I get the desire to pass when nobody expects it Goblinmonger Feb 2015 #44
Right you are. KamaAina Feb 2015 #48
Actually, the Patriots made a great play. onenote Feb 2015 #37
Now you know how the Packers felt in the NFC Championship game LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #46
I'll give you the two picks KamaAina Feb 2015 #49
What? TSIAS Feb 2015 #26
Based on the fact that he won MVP SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2015 #28
That's backwards reasoning - based on the fact that GW Bush was president adigal Feb 2015 #34
Sorry, I wasn't clear SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2015 #41
I'll sneak over to Brady's house tonight and deflate the tires. n/t benz380 Feb 2015 #29
Funny joke about the 1970 World Series exboyfil Feb 2015 #32
how much do you think they should pay for receiving an award? CreekDog Feb 2015 #35
He has to pay taxes on it if that makes you feel better. former9thward Feb 2015 #36
As an employee he sure as hell did earn it. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #40

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
1. I get your point but a Chevy Colorado is no where close to $50,000
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:06 AM
Feb 2015

about 1/2 that, maybe $30,000 loaded.

Renew Deal

(85,099 posts)
2. There are a lot of things in this world to be worried about
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:08 AM
Feb 2015

This is near the bottom of the list.

 

Dwayne Hicks

(637 posts)
3. Not really
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:09 AM
Feb 2015

This represents what is wrong with our society. Endless giveaways to the rich. This is just one example.

Renew Deal

(85,099 posts)
5. This is more important than measles, the middle east, Ukraine, Euro finance, African war, etc?
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:12 AM
Feb 2015

It might be more important than steroid use in the puppy bowl, but that's debatable too.

 

Dwayne Hicks

(637 posts)
6. Why do I have to pick?
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:14 AM
Feb 2015

I can't have opinions about both? And no measles is not a concern frankly the parents should be blamed for it.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
10. How is it a giveaway when only one person can get it?
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:18 AM
Feb 2015

It's a prize, nothing more.

If it makes you feel better, the winner will eventually suffer from severe arthritis and early dementia

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
51. While professional athletes make what I consider to be an obscene amount of money,
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 07:02 PM
Feb 2015

I don't consider them to be a part of the real "problem-rich."

Most ball players aren't funding nutjob politicians or destroying lives to make a profit.

Think of them as the "working-rich," along with heart surgeons, media stars, and others whose only "product" is not just the manipulation of money, people & other "assets" for profit.

The working rich are millionaires, and multi-millionaires in some cases. But they aren't billionaires. They are as liable as anyone to lose their retirements in a stock market crash. While they're eatin' purdy high on the hawg, for the most part they aren't the real driving force behind the Pikettyization of the Western world.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
39. Paul Krugman suggests salaries pro sports players receive helped spur rise in CEO salaries
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:02 PM
Feb 2015

so it's incredibly pertinent to today's problems.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
52. That's what the players always do.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 07:09 PM
Feb 2015

Tom and Gisele need a Chevy pickup like a moose needs a hatrack.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
9. I find more appaling people who watch the whole thing and nitpick about it
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:17 AM
Feb 2015

We stopped watching it years ago.

I agree it is indicative off the ills of our society. So why did you watch it? Just to have something to complain about?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
13. Someone has to play the role of "over-the-top liberal"
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:19 AM
Feb 2015

Tonight it's their turn, apparently.

Response to Dwayne Hicks (Original post)

onenote

(46,135 posts)
20. He only threw four touchdown passes and set the Super Bowl record for most completions
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:55 AM
Feb 2015

Yes he had two interceptions, but his completion rate of 74 percent of the 50 passes he threw probably is the fourth or fifth highest overall. And he did it against the top rated defense in the NFL.

So in what universe would that be considered not playing "that well."

onenote

(46,135 posts)
38. Yes they happened
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:00 PM
Feb 2015

And he still managed to complete 74 percent of his passes, set a new Super Bowl record for completions in a game, and throw four touchdowns against the number one rated pass defense in the NFL -- a team that only gave up 17 passing touchdowns all season.

I'd say that was a pretty good performance.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
42. I think a person could toss four picks, lose two fumbles, get flagged for Unsportsmanlike Conduct...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 04:46 PM
Feb 2015

and STILL be MVP. It boils down to "did you win?" and "who contributed the most?". Column D below lacks an asterisk.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
18. And to give it to that cheater Brady, who threw two interceptions. Patriots didn't win, Seahawks
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:44 AM
Feb 2015

threw it away.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
43. That was his IMMEDIATE reaction to losing the Super Bowl.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:00 PM
Feb 2015

Seems kind of unfair to call that whining. I haven't seen anything from him in that regard.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
45. Oh no Sherman wasn't whining
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:06 PM
Feb 2015

actually I don't expect him to whine, that's not his style. I think the look on his face is more leading to anger at the play call.

The reaction shot was just a little dig at the poster that I called the whambulance for.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
47. OK. My bad.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:28 PM
Feb 2015

I see what you did now.

I'm not really a Seahawks fan and there is plenty to not like on that team, but I generally like Sherman because it's not his style to whine about things. And that is such a solid, real, human reaction.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
50. I can see how it came across like that
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 06:48 PM
Feb 2015

Especially after looking again and it looks like he was saying Oh Man in the gif.

onenote

(46,135 posts)
22. And Seahawks fans will have until next September to whine about it.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:57 AM
Feb 2015

If that's the way they want to roll.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
33. So Brady didnt throw two interceptions? And Seattle didn't practically throw the game
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 01:28 PM
Feb 2015

At the end?

Jeez. I must have been listening to a different game.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
25. You make the same error as announcers have been doing: ASSuming a run would not have been stopped.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:18 AM
Feb 2015

OR THAT NO SEAHAWK COULD FUMBLE.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
44. Well, I get the desire to pass when nobody expects it
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:02 PM
Feb 2015

but a throw to the middle? That seems odd.

And you have Marshawn Fuckin Lynch and probably 3 play. At least give Beast Mode a try or two at getting it in the end zone before you go all desperation.

onenote

(46,135 posts)
37. Actually, the Patriots made a great play.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 01:56 PM
Feb 2015

The pass play, viewed through hindsight, was a lousy call. But if it had worked -- and it could have worked -- it would be lauded by Seattle fans as an act of genius, as another example of Carroll's bold play calling. But it didn't work because Butler made a great play on the ball and held on. If he only knocks it away, as happens more often than interceptions, the Seahawks have another chance or two to score.

People seem to forget that there are a lot of variables in football. A lot of things could have gone differently. The Seahawks could've run the ball and gotten stuffed or fumbled before scoring. It happens. They couldn've completed the pass. Butler could have just knocked the ball down.

What happened is what happened, just as the miraculous catch on the five happened although no one would have predicted it. Just as Lynch being stuffed for no gain on third and one inside the 10 yard lineforced the Seahawks to go for a field goal. The bottom line is the line on the scoreboard: The number one Seahawks defense couldn't stop Brady from throwing four touchdown passes and accumulating over 300 yards passing (considerably more than the 185 yards per game passing the Seahawks allowed for the season). They couldn't stop Brady from completing 74 percent of his passes -- more than Brady's season average of 64 percent. Th

A lot of plays led to the outcome of that game, not just the interception.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
49. I'll give you the two picks
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

But who else gets it, assuming it has to be someone on the Pats? Butler, for the one pick? Remember, he had just been torched by Kearse for the bizarro catch that got them down there in the first place.

Of course, it didn't have to be someone on the Pats. One player from the losing team has gotten it, way back in SB V. Wouldn't it have been cool to see Marshawn Lynch with three brazillion mikes shoved in his face?

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
34. That's backwards reasoning - based on the fact that GW Bush was president
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 01:30 PM
Feb 2015

In 2000, he earned it.

Really!

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
41. Sorry, I wasn't clear
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 04:35 PM
Feb 2015

The prize goes to whomever earns the title MVP...seeing as Brady earned that title, he earned the truck.

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
32. Funny joke about the 1970 World Series
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:37 AM
Feb 2015

Brooks Robinson was a vacuum cleaner on every play to third base.

Total Baseball described Brooks Robinson's fielding with, "other-worldly defense at third (which) gave Reds right-handed hitters nightmares through the Series." Upon hearing that Robinson won the MVP award and a new car from Toyota, Reds' catcher Johnny Bench said, "If we had known he wanted a car that badly, we'd all have chipped in and bought him one."

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
35. how much do you think they should pay for receiving an award?
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 01:32 PM
Feb 2015

maybe by winning the Most Valuable Player, you're suggesting it should come with a bill.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
40. As an employee he sure as hell did earn it.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:08 PM
Feb 2015

He has spent his whole life becoming the best at something. Awards are given for those things. If someone determined they will get enough advertisement out of giving him the automobile, he accomplished what was necessary to be a part of that, then he has put himself in a position to where he earned it. If it wasn't him, it would have been someone else.

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