The GOP has a guy running for president who's family fled the country to avoid U.S. laws

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.newswest9.com/story/17752814/fact-check-romney-on-his-dad-growing-up-poor

Posted: Apr 25, 2012 4:05 PM CDT
Updated: Apr 25, 2012 4:41 PM CDT

<snip>George Romney was born July 8, 1907, in Chihuahua, Mexico, where his parents and other Mormons had moved to avoid persecution and U.S. laws against polygamy.

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And on top of that the law they were trying to avoid was their gawd given right to own a harem. Just think about that one little detail for a minute. Then when you hear some Obama hater ranting about something remind them of that. Watch their faces.

Boy, we sure did get lucky that Romney won the nomination.

Don

[Enrique]

1. imagine if a Democrat had that kind of background

[obxhead]

18. Yes,

if a Dem had the same background it would be reported day in and day out on the liberal media. Obama is lucky he's only a black, Muslim dog eating, Kenyan.

[Bozita]

30. Amen!

The Dems would start concentrating on the congressional elections in '14.

[spanone]

2. k&r...

[sabbat hunter]

3. I don't think that

Mittens should be blamed for his grandfather's mistakes.


There is plenty of other reasons to dislike him and his policies.

[grantcart]

21. It is relevent to the extent that Romney frequently

brings up his got to the top by doing it the 'right' way and so on.

Since he extols his family's history (in an effort to undermine the President's 'American-ness' as a worthwhile trait then it becomes legitimate.

I do agree that its better to keep it until he brings it up again and then hit him over the head with it.

[FreeState]

31. What's wrong with moving to a country

Where you can practice your religion? Isn't thy why the puritans came over here?

[grantcart]

32. its fine to leave the United States because you want to avoid complying with the laws here.

Its not OK for your family to leave the country and then return and then campaign on the issue that your family got to the top of the success pyramid because they did it the 'American' way while trying to make the Black guy look like he just got off the plane from Africa.

[malaise]

4. And he has moved his money out of America

to escape taxes.

What a patriotic bunch! NOT

[Mponti]

5. 2nd generation draft dodger

To complete the family history, the Romneys fled Mexico to avoid fighting in the revolution. Fastfward to Vietnam War, the.defining experience of his generation. Mitt was.a war hawk but avoided military service with deferements that allowed him to be a missionary in France and later a divinity student at BYU.

Just another chickenhawk who wants.to be commander in chief

[naaman fletcher]

6. So, we should blame him for something his grandfather did? nt

[Kablooie]

22. If the song I'm my own grandpa applies we should

Of course it doesn't, I hope.

[JHB]

24. Blame? Naw. Further de-motivate the Republican base and right-leaning independents?

Absolutely.

[naaman fletcher]

26. fair enough nt.

[RZM]

7. Mitt's grandfather moved to Mexico in 1885

He wasn't a polygamist either. Though his father and some other members of the family were.

In any case, does anybody really give a shit what the Romney family did 130 years ago? Anybody who does or pretends to probably dislikes Romney for a variety of other reasons anyway. It's the same with a president. Anybody who cares what the Kenyan side of his family was doing in the 19th century probably didn't like anything about him to begin with.

There are a lot of reasons not to be a fan of Mitt. This isn't one of them.

[olivermt]

8. Mitt

Mitt Rmoney, anchor baby?

[cin63]

9. Soooo

Mitts dad was born in Mexico? When did he become an american citizen? Does Mitt have a mother? I have never heard him mention her. Is Mitt a citizen?

[hack89]

11. Mitt was born on American soil - he is a natural born American citizen. nt

[treestar]

16. Where's the birth certificate?

[yellowcanine]

14. Mitt's dad George was a natural born Am citizen by virtue of the fact that his parents were

citizens (I know, goes against the birther arguments, just one more thing they are wrong about).
The Romneys who went to Mexico in the late 1800s never gave up their Am. citizenship.
And Mitt was born in the U.S. to two Am citizens so he makes it on several counts.

[Iliyah]

10. Oh what evil webs we weave

huh?

Pres O's father, i.e., a right wing religious leader states that since his father and his father's family are Muslims, therefor, by birth, Pres O is a Muslim. Pres O is a Christian, but, the insane party of no has convinced their crazed base that he is not. The religious right has claimed that Pres O is not an American and was not born in the United States.

RW are constantly banging that across the country thru radio and televsion and the social media.

Its ok for RW to bring this type of hate? I guess so. RW gives Christianity a bad rap.

One thing about progressives is the total respect for other religions and denominations.

[MineralMan]

12. Sins of the grandfather?

I don't think we do that here so much. Romney has plenty of real issues we can attack. This one isn't one of them, I think.

[eggplant]

13. Really?

On the list of reasons to not want Mittens to become POTUS, this isn't even in the top 100. Let's keep our eyes on the ball, folks.

[TlalocW]

15. What some of you aren't getting (the, "Let's not blame Mitt's dad/granddad" group)

Is this is something you use to shut up the people obsessed with Obama's father or his family living overseas, etc. No, it doesn't really make much of a point one way or the other, but if some guy is going on about Obama attending a madrassa when he was younger, I'm going to pull out that Romney's family fled the US to go to Mexico so the male members could have multiple wives just to shut him the hell up.

TlalocW

[JHB]

25. +1

[cin63]

17. Well then

Pres. Obama's mother was an american citizen, so is her child, period. And if his parents were such big muslims why did they give their son a Hebrew name, Barack?

[LASlibinSC]

19. Awww..come on!

Anchor baby, Mittens. THAT was funny!

[Xyzse]

20. Thing is...

I don't consider sins of the father or grand-father as a means to disqualify someone from the Presidency.
I could care less that his father was "poor" or something or another.

What I care about is what he has done as a person.
How he treats something in his care.
How he runs an organization.
His inherent humanity.

Case 1 - How he treats something in his care. How he treated a dog, placing it on top of a car for a long drive is absolutely ridiculous. Supposedly, a dog is part of the family and should be cared for. In treating the least of his family or someone under him in such an uncaring callous manner, it shows him unfit to care for the well being of a larger group.

Case 2 - The way he ran organizations, particularly in just buying companies and selling them off by bit parts only to make money. That is not the way to progress. Making money is not the only measure of success, it is growth and well being. The fact that in doing what he did, all it means is defunding companies in regards to their needs, just so that it can be sold off without the debts to experienced workers is an automatic failure, since those are jobs and knowledge base that will not come back. He is a proponent for selling out, that's all he is, he doesn't have the experience to run something towards expansion or improvement. He may be a good strip parts mechanic but not good at fixing things. Hence, it is easy for him to taking things apart but when it comes to fixing things he is an abject failure.

Case 3 - Case 1 and 2 has already proven Case 3 in regards to his humanity as lacking.

I can't vote for the guy, no matter his pedigree.

[YoungDemCA]

23. Hey, our 43rd President's grandfather had business dealings with Nazi industrialists...

Yet the GOP nominated him, as well as his father, and both became President.

I really don't think that they care about these things.

[fishwax]

27. It was Mitt Romney's Great-Grandparents who moved the family to Mexico

(His grandfather was 13 or 14 when they made the move, incidentally.) I'm not going to blame the man for the sins of his great-grandparents, since he's done plenty of his own accord.

[Doctor_J]

28. way too many soft hearted/soft headed/Repuke sympathizers in this thread

you people need to go to undecided.com or benicetomitt.com or icometogunfightswithknives.com or some such place. His family has a history of unpatriotic, hypocritical acts, and he lies about his background consistently. He should be blasted on all of his deceit, not just the ones you think are fair.

[white_wolf]

29. I'm sorry, but this is a non-issue to me.

We shouldn't punish or judge people for the crimes of their ancestors.