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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 08:27 AM Feb 2015

Moussaoui Calls Saudi Princes Patrons of Al Qaeda

WASHINGTON — In highly unusual testimony inside the federal supermax prison, a former operative for Al Qaeda has described prominent members of Saudi Arabia’s royal family as major donors to the terrorist network in the late 1990s and claimed that he discussed a plan to shoot down Air Force One with a Stinger missile with a staff member at the Saudi Embassy in Washington.

The Qaeda member, Zacarias Moussaoui, wrote last year to Judge George B. Daniels of United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, who is presiding over a lawsuit filed against Saudi Arabia by relatives of those killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. He said he wanted to testify in the case, and after lengthy negotiations with Justice Department officials and the federal Bureau of Prisons, a team of lawyers was permitted to enter the prison and question him for two days last October.

In a statement Monday night, the Saudi Embassy said that the national Sept. 11 commission had rejected allegations that the Saudi government or Saudi officials had funded Al Qaeda.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/us/zacarias-moussaoui-calls-saudi-princes-patrons-of-al-qaeda.html?_r=0

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notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
1. I distinctly remember a telethon fund raiser the Saudis put on after 911
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 08:34 AM
Feb 2015

and they weren't raising money for the victims of the Trade Center attacks either

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
2. I believe him.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 08:50 AM
Feb 2015

I don't put anything past the Saudis or their good friends in the U.S. I'd like the people of Saudi Arabia to overthrow those awful 'royals,' but I have no idea whether any government the people chose would be any friendlier with the U.S. It might be worse for the 1% here, but I don't think it could be much worse for the average American who has to pay the ultimate price for this so-called friendship.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
15. The Saudis were collecting for the Salafis Movement Soldiers against the Islamic Sunnis and Shiite.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:52 AM
Feb 2015
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html

The religious curriculum in Saudi Arabia teaches you that people are basically two sides: Salafis [Wahhabis], who are the winners, the chosen ones, who will go to heaven, and the rest. The rest are Muslims and Christians and Jews and others.

They are either kafirs, who are deniers of God, or mushrak, putting gods next to God, or enervators, that's the lightest one. The enervators of religion who are they call the Sunni Muslims who ... for instance, celebrate Prophet Mohammed's birthday, and do some stuff that is not accepted by Salafis.

And all of these people are not accepted by Salafi as Muslims. As I said, "claimant to Islam." And all of these people are supposed to be hated, to be persecuted, even killed. And we have several clergy -- not one Salafi clergy -- who have said that against the Shi'a and against the other Muslims. And they have done it in Algeria, in Afghanistan. This is the same ideology. They just have the same opportunity. They did it in Algeria and Afghanistan, and now New York. ...


GW Bush started this lasting conflict by destroying the balance of Islamic powers when he announced Mission Accomplished. Apparently Saudi Arabia is wanting to confiscate the entire Middle East as their oil runs low. The plan is to murder the other Islamic States. The US needs to remain out of the conflict. The Arabs are allowing the dollar for oil, until the price of a barrel gets too low. Obama has headed the warning, being undermined by a Tea Party extremist MIC in Congress.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. No wonder they wanted to give the guy the Death Sentence.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:19 AM
Feb 2015

He's the guy FBI SA Colleen Rowley wanted to investigate as a possible plane hijacker in Aug. 2001. Moussaoui was taking flying lesson at a Minnesota flight school, where instructors noticed he was interested only in turning a 747 toward a certain spot, not taking off or landing. Rowley was prevented from opening his laptop computer, stuffed with pre-9-11 details, by Washington HQ -- the first time I remember hearing the FBI respected a suspect's rights.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Octafish/25

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
7. Bushes would rather protect Saudi princes than
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:56 AM
Feb 2015

US citizens. With whom do their loyalties lie? (Rhetorical question)

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. The section dealing with Saudi 9/11 funding was completely censored. The allegation was proven, not
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:54 AM
Feb 2015

rejected by the Commission, as the Embassy claims. That's why the Bush Administration and the other friends of oilogopy blacked that information out of the declassified version.

And, if you believe that ISIS is entirely self-funding by oil exports, I can sell you a bridge across the Sinai desert.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
10. Go to the original story - there are 200 pages of Moussaoui's testimony linked. Knock your socks off
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 10:20 AM
Feb 2015

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Moussaoui appears to be far more credible than he's been portrayed, and far better informed, having been tasked by UBL to compile computerized records of contributors to AQ. (See, Exhibit 5, p.7)

A must read, if you want to know the details of how KSA has been playing us, and why this has been covered up.

 

Manifest Destiny

(139 posts)
11. Nice to hear it straight from the horses mouth for once.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 10:32 AM
Feb 2015

Of course, they are in it together. When looking at any crime always ask who benefits most.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
17. Yep, just like the people who financially & politically support the Princes.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 01:12 PM
Feb 2015

They know full well what they are aiding & abetting. They just love that money too much.

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