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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 02:19 PM Feb 2015

John Geer had his hands up according to four police witnesses.

Now I know the defenders of the Thin Blue Li(n)e are always quick to point out how the police have to believe that any movement could be a threatening move to grab a weapon or something like that. Yet in the case of John Geer who was shot and killed by a police officer in 2013 and the investigation has been going on for 17 months. The Family petitioned the court and won an order to get the documents being held by the District Attorney.

Here is what we know. Adam Torres shot and killed Geer claiming that Geer who was standing behind his screen door with his hands up suddenly reached towards his waistband as if reaching for a weapon. Torres was the only officer to shoot and killed Geer.

Four other police officers including a Lieutenant who were present all said they saw Geer make no motions, his hands never went below his shoulders, and he never reached for his waistband.

Torres had been arguing with his wife, presumably by cell phone, on the way to the domestic disturbance report.

Now, four cops say the victim did not reach for anything, but one cop does. So what does the DA do? For seventeen month they have been investigating. Seriously? If someone had shot a cop in front of four witnesses the trial would have been over and the sentence would be in progress in less than seventeen months.

Here are two links, I know some people detest the Washington Post, or is it the Times? I never can remember. But anyway, here are two links so you know I'm not single sourcing the information.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Family-of-John-Geer-Glad-More-Details-Unraveling-in-Fatal-Shooting-290601401.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/officer-who-shot-john-geer-says-he-moved-hands-toward-waist-3-other-officers-say-no/2015/01/31/7cc2c0da-a7f6-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html

Seventeen months, four police officers who saw the assassination, and no charges have been filed. What does it take to charge a cop who murders someone? Apparently it is going to take an act of God, because nobody else seems willing to take action on this painfully obvious crime.

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John Geer had his hands up according to four police witnesses. (Original Post) Savannahmann Feb 2015 OP
Officer Barnes Questions/Criticizes Officer Torres Shooting John Geer antiquie Feb 2015 #1
just had a fight with his wife. barbtries Feb 2015 #2
Unbelievable that he hasn't been charged. brer cat Feb 2015 #3
Sounds like he has problems catchnrelease Feb 2015 #4
As does the Fairfax County Police! atreides1 Feb 2015 #5
I think you're right. n/t catchnrelease Feb 2015 #7
Thanks! And the WA Post that you linked to is fine -- it's the Times that is the right-wing rag. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #6
One kick for the morning crew Savannahmann Feb 2015 #8

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
3. Unbelievable that he hasn't been charged.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 03:18 PM
Feb 2015

What more could they possibly need?

Thanks for posting these links, Savannahmann. This incident needs continued sunlight or it will die.

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
4. Sounds like he has problems
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 03:55 PM
Feb 2015

Torres has had 'temper' issues in the past. The Post article talks about him having a meltdown in a courtroom and storming out prior to this shooting incident.

Plus, he says he says "I don’t feel sorry for shooting the guy at all." Come on, even if you thought you were in the right in doing it, wouldn't a sane person feel bad about it?

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
5. As does the Fairfax County Police!
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 05:01 PM
Feb 2015

I believe they tried to cover this up...which is why the commonwealth's attorney, referred the case to the US Justice Department!


Just an opinion.

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