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JI7

(89,276 posts)
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:45 AM Feb 2015

Why are some more angry over Netanyahu Speech than ISIS killings ?

i think netanyahu is an asshole and the whole thing with going to congress and using republicans who just hate obama just shows it.

but it seems like anytime something bad happens and people criticize it such as with Russia, ISIS and other things some people feel the need to lecture about how bad the US , the West and other things are .

but when it comes to Israel there is no need for the usual lectures about how we need to look at our own side . or bringing up how the bush administration hasn't been arrested yet so we can't do this or that.

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Why are some more angry over Netanyahu Speech than ISIS killings ? (Original Post) JI7 Feb 2015 OP
Easy, no risk target with self-satisfying moral superiority vs. confronting murderous psychotics. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #1
because DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #2
+++1000 nt kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #3
It's discouraging how many people don't get this here on DU Fumesucker Feb 2015 #4
what is there not to get ? JI7 Feb 2015 #5
Where are all these people who have a problem condemning ISIS? Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #6
ISIS is not the US government, Americans have no control over and no responsibility for ISIS Fumesucker Feb 2015 #8
israel isn't the US government either JI7 Feb 2015 #9
No-one said they were. But Congress is the US govt, isn't it? Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #10
When the head of ISIS is invited to speak before Congress you might have a point Fumesucker Feb 2015 #11
i'm opposed to the whole thing netanyahu pulled with the congress speech JI7 Feb 2015 #12
A someone else already pointed out, there were DUers who actively supported the attack on Gaza Fumesucker Feb 2015 #13
i'm talking about people who have a problem criticizing what is done JI7 Feb 2015 #14
Again, Americans have no control over Russia and no responsibility Fumesucker Feb 2015 #16
There's no double standard... Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #19
indeed they are NOT DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #20
Exactly n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #7
Interesting, isn't it? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #15
apples and oranges.n/t Lil Missy Feb 2015 #17
Call me again when ISIS gets invited to speak before congress. nt redgreenandblue Feb 2015 #18
Interference in our government and using this oportunity to get elected. Apples and oranges. ISIS is jwirr Feb 2015 #21
Because our Democratic lawmakers aren't supporting ISIS against the president LittleBlue Feb 2015 #22
Excellent. 99Forever Feb 2015 #23

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
1. Easy, no risk target with self-satisfying moral superiority vs. confronting murderous psychotics.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:26 AM
Feb 2015

It's the new chickenhawk.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
5. what is there not to get ?
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:34 AM
Feb 2015

i'm talking about people who even have a problem with just condemning what ISIS does or others do.

it's a different standard when it comes to Israel .

i'm not even just talking about the speech. during the attack on Gaza people had no problem condemning israel .

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
6. Where are all these people who have a problem condemning ISIS?
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:44 AM
Feb 2015

Are you talking about DU or in general? Because at DU during the attack on Gaza I saw several folk who not only didn't condemn it, but actually supported it.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. ISIS is not the US government, Americans have no control over and no responsibility for ISIS
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:47 AM
Feb 2015

Congress on the other hand is the US government, Americans do have control (well theoretically anyway) over and responsibility for what Congress and the rest of the government does.

I condemn needless violence by any and all people and organizations and I think most violence is needless.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
10. No-one said they were. But Congress is the US govt, isn't it?
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:52 AM
Feb 2015

Of course Americans can and should be loudly speaking out against Nutty's speech before Congress.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
12. i'm opposed to the whole thing netanyahu pulled with the congress speech
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:57 AM
Feb 2015

and i don't think any democrats or anyone else should attend.

and i have no problem criticizing israel for gaza and anything else.

but the same goes for other people/places which some do have an issue with.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. A someone else already pointed out, there were DUers who actively supported the attack on Gaza
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 06:02 AM
Feb 2015

I haven't seen any active support for ISIS on DU, perhaps you could point it out to me.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
14. i'm talking about people who have a problem criticizing what is done
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 06:06 AM
Feb 2015

not just isis but russia and many others.

there is a double standard when it comes to israel and people suddenly don't need to lecture about how we need to look at what we have done . there is no problem just criticizing and attack them for what they do in itself.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. Again, Americans have no control over Russia and no responsibility
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 06:12 AM
Feb 2015

One of the main reasons Israel comes in for a lot of condemnation is because Israel seems to have a great deal of control over Congress and Bibi's upcoming song and dance routine in front of Congress is just rubbing it in particularly hard right now.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
19. There's no double standard...
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 07:30 AM
Feb 2015

During the attack on Gaza there were DUers who not only had a problem criticising what was done but openly supported what was being done. I haven't seen anyone at DU support what ISIS is doing...

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
20. indeed they are NOT
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:07 PM
Feb 2015

so what the hell is Netanyahu doing over here being adressed and respected and outright feted as if he IS part of the government? Never mind the fact that Ann Coulter has already started the eme that she wishes Bibi wer in charge rather than Obama, and advocated that we do to mexicans what Bibi does to Palestinians. We have a right to say NO, we do not want you here, and we do not want to treat you with the honor that goes to people WE elect!

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
15. Interesting, isn't it?
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 06:08 AM
Feb 2015

I think you've found the place in the universe where gravity makes things fall up. Kinda like Alice in Wonderland.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. Interference in our government and using this oportunity to get elected. Apples and oranges. ISIS is
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:39 PM
Feb 2015

a real threat but not in the same way.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
22. Because our Democratic lawmakers aren't supporting ISIS against the president
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:42 PM
Feb 2015

And we're not funneling ISIS billions in free weaponry.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
23. Excellent.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:51 PM
Feb 2015

An lame attempt at linking some BS to excuse Boner and that asshole Nutty Yahoo from being total asshats.

WTG bud.




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