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Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:54 AM Feb 2015

It never ends...IS Militants Burn Three Iraqis Alive

Officials and eyewitnesses say Islamic State (IS) militants have burned at least three people alive in Iraq's western Anbar Province.

The victims, residents of an area near the town of Hit, some 200 kilometers west of Baghdad, were suspected of informing Iraqi security forces about the militants' movements.

Our correspondent says the militant group also accused the victims of encouraging people to join tribal forces who are fighting against IS.

Anbar officials said in a statement that one of the victims was a former police officer.

Residents of the area were reportedly forced to come to the site of the burning and watch the incident.

http://www.rferl.org/content/islamic-state-burns-iraqis-alive/26834091.html

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It never ends...IS Militants Burn Three Iraqis Alive (Original Post) Rhinodawg Feb 2015 OP
Another Mother load of really bad ideas. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #1
Spreading Islam by killing Muslims. JaneyVee Feb 2015 #2
Sunni vs Shia Muslims etherealtruth Feb 2015 #6
True, sunnis and shias are, but I feel like ISIS is more like... JaneyVee Feb 2015 #9
They will do anything to get air time on Fox randr Feb 2015 #3
Not the only ones. nt greytdemocrat Feb 2015 #4
You got it. nt bemildred Feb 2015 #5
So they commit atrocties to get on Faux news ? Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #7
Seems to work randr Feb 2015 #8
There are a lot of competing theories about why the Aztec empire fell. closeupready Feb 2015 #10
No, that's not at all accurate. a la izquierda Feb 2015 #11
Societies fall when people stop supporting them. closeupready Feb 2015 #12

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
6. Sunni vs Shia Muslims
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:28 AM
Feb 2015

While I agree there is more to this (ethnic/tribal, economic, proxy) ... to dismiss the Sunni-Shia divide is to not understand the history and the depth of that divide. In a sense, there are two sides struggling for the control of Islam.



 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
9. True, sunnis and shias are, but I feel like ISIS is more like...
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:42 PM
Feb 2015

Hitler and the Nazi's; a genocide cult.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
10. There are a lot of competing theories about why the Aztec empire fell.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:04 PM
Feb 2015

If I'm recalling this correctly, it was a puzzle for a long time because they had a vast empire and enormous power. But they committed some ghastly human rights abuses, including cannibalism and human sacrifice. Eventually, the scale of these abuses became so bad that there was a popular revolution - people realized they were going to be sacrificed, as would their own families, and they decided to put an end to it before that happened, since either way, they'd end up better off.

A similar type of social collapse helped lead to the fall of the Roman Empire.

I'm seeing parallels between those societies and the kind of thing in the story here.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
11. No, that's not at all accurate.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 01:07 PM
Feb 2015

The Aztecs did not practice cannibalism on any kind of vast scale. It was ritualized and very controlled.
The Aztecs- as did every single group in Mesoamerica- practiced human sacrifice as part of a deeply spiritual and complicated set of religious beliefs.
The Aztecs were an empire of conquest. The Spanish exploited that.
The Spanish carried diseases that no indigenous people had immunity to (allies of the Spanish or not). These diseases severely weakened the Aztecs.
The Spanish arrived in the middle of the harvest. Aztec soldiers for the most part were part-time soldiers/part-time farmers.
Should I continued?

(I have a PhD in the history of indigenous cultures of Mexico, so I can go on and on.)

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
12. Societies fall when people stop supporting them.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:52 PM
Feb 2015

The reasons why members of society disenfranchise themselves are complicated, and I'll defer to your expertise with regard to the Aztecs.

And with that, this thread is basically a wrap for me. Cheers.

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