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Two Islamic extremists one jailed TWICE for terror offences are back on the streets after serving half their sentences.
Shah Jalal Hussain and Jahanagir Alom are out on licence despite a Tory pledge to end automatic early release for convicted terrorists.
Crimes the pair were involved in included plotting attacks and fundraising for terrorism.
Hussain, 32, has said he believes Downing Street is a legitimate target for suicide attacks and that he wished he had been a 9/11 bomber.
Alom was caught with two others who were plotting an attack on Wootton Bassett where dead soldiers were repatriated from Afghanistan.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-islamic-terrorists-back-streets-5124123
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Did you miss the part where they were released from prison...where everyone is innocent, of course.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)The first respondent agreed with that - and you suggested that Islamophobia was the culprit - on what do you base that assertion?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)some folk need to press the Outrage button and Panic button simultaneously, and head for the Safe Room.
Pity the folk that are so easily fearful and so easily manipulated.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)Didn't Sam Harris talk about the meme of Islamophobia ?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)If so, then I guess you can color me some shade of jade.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)Thanks for the cheap shot.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...after all the OPs you've posted that paint Christians, and Jews, in a negative light. Your posts are obviously always fair and balanced, without any bias or hateful agenda to push.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts):|
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Chathamization
(1,638 posts)they'd fight right in with the garbage you see at the New Republic. Posters talking about how X minority group is inherently dangerous, posters saying that because liberals don't want to offend people they turn a blind eye to the horrible things X minority group does, posters who post topic after topic about criminals from X minority group (but not about the many, many more white criminals) - complete with big scary pictures of the minority (but hey, the Willie Horton ad was merely informative and not race-baiting, right?), posters outraged that criminals from X minority group were released early, etc.
You'd get banned here for treating any other minority group this way, but for some reason it's been decided that bigotry against Muslims is fine. And it's sickening.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)may try to claim with regard to being 'fair' in matters relating to bigotry against muslims.
Granted, this is a VERY niche discussion board with a dedicated few loyalists, but still, legitimacy starts SOMEWHERE, on big sites or small ones. I guess they don't care, perhaps they agree with the Islamophobia, who knows? I don't think they've ever opined about it - it simply is allowed to stand.
So you just have to account for that on your own terms, and either move on or stay but know what you are up against here.
Peace.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)malaise
(267,821 posts)are also still on the streets - they haven't even served one hour in prison and they are the among the worst terrorists on the planet
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Calista241
(5,584 posts)These guys were actually convicted by a court of breaking the law.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)these convicted criminals should go free? I cannot believe what I'm seeing on this thread. Where are all of you going to be when these convicted criminals are AGAIN part of some terrorist act?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)They served time in prison and were released in accordance wih law.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to further do what they were doing before - planning terrorist acts and fundraising for terrorists. Lovely.
malaise
(267,821 posts)linuxman
(2,337 posts)This place is a riot sometimes.
Terrorists get early release from prison and the the first responses are rushing to shame the OP/the authorities for alleged "Islamaphobia".
Would any of the posters referenced above care to break down what exactly is "Islamaphobic" about this?
I'm sure they learned their lessons...
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Sure, let's follow the UK's example and let the terrorists we're holding go free too. Better yet, let's invite them all for tea at the White House. If we don't, we're just obviously Islamophobic.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Wishes he had killed thousands. Fucking vermin.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)for life. They are actual terrorists. It's not Islamophobic, or phobic against whatever country they are from to say so.
Prejudice means you hate someone based on generalities about a large group where you have no specific actions about the individual person to which you can point. There are specific issues with these two people.
Some folks here have lost their minds.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Some have also lost their credibility, with me at any rate.
Those with axes to grind used to at least SEEM to make some sense, now that isn't even necessary Was there an "invasion of the body snatchers" that I missed?
Violet_Crumble
(35,954 posts)I agree with the first two paragraphs of what you said, though.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Unless jail somehow changes their attitude, it doesn't seem like it would help. One who wishes he was a 911 hijacker is willing to do a suicide attack.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Please look up the definition of Islamaphobia.
These men were released by Rule of Law. In another country. Do you know their criminal and parole laws? Might want to look that up also.
JHB
(37,131 posts)...supporting violent terrorist acts. Unless their views have changed, why would they not go back to doing the same now that they are free to do so?
The critical factor is their radicalism, not their religion.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)great harm to Britain.
Would you want these 2 living in your neighborhood?
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Your statement is extremely unfair. I have to see these two guys as the same as peaceful Muslims. You're the one equating all Muslims.
Where did I challenge their laws? I did not say they should not release them. I wondered if jail does them any good.
Your response is illogical, unfair, and mischaracterizes what I said. What are your motives for doing that? You surely are intelligent enough to have done it on purpose.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)instructs me, it is a matter of principal and easy to remember in all situations.
From convicts, to politicians, to Cosby, to the eventually acquitted and the purely innocent, I will defend the rule of law over the rule of media or comment boards. The issue is the process, not the personalities. If you object to the process, then get it fixed, criticize the process, tell the process to duck off, tell the process it stinks, tell us the solution to the stinky process, but attacking the personalities is just being lazy. Present company exempted.
No offence, but I am passionate about respecting the rule of law in the country that invented it and which Justice system America adopted based on the bedrock rule of law.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Nobody in the thread even mentioned complaining about UK law. We realized the reality that they were released under that law.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)I would like to talk about that, because having read the background of the case briefly, maybe they should have served more time.
But the process is the process, let it work out. It is the process of the nation that brought the world the jury system.
Or change it. Provide a solution, like Obama provided a solution in his wonderful Religion Speech - secularism and humility.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)These two are CONVICTED CRIMANALS. One has already said he wished he were one of the 9/11 hijackers. Got that? Wishes he were one who killed thousands of Americans. And you try and make this about ALL Muslims. You're beneath contempt for trying to claim other DUers are Islamophobes for being outraged these convicted animals are back on the streets.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)You're free to try to become a British subject and change the law.
Indeed, that can be your first step in your Master Plan of liquidating the European Muslims.
Good luck to you, Rhinodawg. You can do it!
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The UK is also not near as Islamaphobic as America, and neither is all of the EU, but the mass media in America makes it out to be far worse than it is, even in America, by giving massive coverage of every Islamaphobic asshole and buring actual Muslim voices of peace and condemnation of evil, and thereby vastly misrepresenting the vast number of voices that speak peace.
The very concept of American Islamaphobia is a another mass media psychops construct.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,206 posts)The admins ignore them and let them spread their hate and bigotry all over DU.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Cherif Kouachi and Amedy Coulibaly were both ex-cons who did time for jihadi related offenses.