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Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:55 AM

 

GO UK !! Two Islamic terrorists back on streets after serving just half their sentences

Two Islamic extremists – one jailed TWICE for terror offences – are back on the streets after serving half their sentences.

Shah Jalal Hussain and Jahanagir Alom are out on licence despite a Tory pledge to end automatic early release for convicted terrorists.

Crimes the pair were involved in included plotting attacks and ­fundraising for terrorism.

Hussain, 32, has said he believes Downing Street is a “legitimate target” for suicide attacks and that he wished he had been a 9/11 bomber.

Alom was caught with two others who were plotting an attack on Wootton Bassett where dead soldiers were repatriated from Afghanistan.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-islamic-terrorists-back-streets-5124123




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Reply GO UK !! Two Islamic terrorists back on streets after serving just half their sentences (Original post)
Rhinodawg Feb 2015 OP
Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #1
pinboy3niner Feb 2015 #2
marmar Feb 2015 #3
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #12
hobbit709 Feb 2015 #5
el_bryanto Feb 2015 #13
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #15
el_bryanto Feb 2015 #19
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #22
pinboy3niner Feb 2015 #20
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #23
el_bryanto Feb 2015 #25
pinboy3niner Feb 2015 #37
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #38
Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #45
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #47
closeupready Feb 2015 #50
Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #53
closeupready Feb 2015 #55
Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #57
pinboy3niner Feb 2015 #56
mwrguy Feb 2015 #4
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #11
Chathamization Feb 2015 #44
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #48
closeupready Feb 2015 #52
closeupready Feb 2015 #51
malaise Feb 2015 #6
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #29
Calista241 Feb 2015 #33
leftynyc Feb 2015 #39
pinboy3niner Feb 2015 #42
leftynyc Feb 2015 #43
malaise Feb 2015 #49
linuxman Feb 2015 #7
stevenleser Feb 2015 #28
Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #59
leftynyc Feb 2015 #8
stevenleser Feb 2015 #30
Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #58
Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #61
treestar Feb 2015 #9
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #14
JHB Feb 2015 #16
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #17
stevenleser Feb 2015 #31
GGJohn Feb 2015 #34
Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #46
treestar Feb 2015 #21
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #24
treestar Feb 2015 #26
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #27
leftynyc Feb 2015 #40
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #10
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #18
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #32
99Forever Feb 2015 #35
Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #36
closeupready Feb 2015 #54
RandiFan1290 Feb 2015 #60
riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #41

Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:59 AM

1. Another load of bad ideas.

 

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Response to Rhinodawg (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:01 AM

2. Another load of Islamophobia

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:02 AM

3. +1000

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Response to marmar (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:23 AM

12. That track suit is fucking scary, maybe he is running to a no go zone to do Muslimy things? Oh, no!

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:52 AM

5. More hatred than phobia.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:24 AM

13. So you feel like these two men are innocent and should be released? nt

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:30 AM

15. So, you know the criminal and parole laws of Great Britain , the entire case and are here to be the Judge?

Did you miss the part where they were released from prison...where everyone is innocent, of course.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:33 AM

19. Good response - but not really an answer to my question, so I'm going to ignore it. nt

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:36 AM

22. Good plan. Logically thinking is nothing you want to mess with.

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:34 AM

20. Yes, obviously my reply means I must want them to babysit my children

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:37 AM

23. Good one. When caught with your logical pants down....one must flee...

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:40 AM

25. The original article suggests that they were let go prematurely

The first respondent agreed with that - and you suggested that Islamophobia was the culprit - on what do you base that assertion?

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:13 AM

37. What the article "suggests" is that they were released in accordance with law. nt

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #37)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:17 AM

38. But the photos suggest scary brown Muslims released due to outrageous foreign laws. That is all

some folk need to press the Outrage button and Panic button simultaneously, and head for the Safe Room.

Pity the folk that are so easily fearful and so easily manipulated.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 01:46 PM

45. Oh my, oh my.

 

Didn't Sam Harris talk about the meme of Islamophobia ?

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Response to Rhinodawg (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:31 PM

47. Another single person on the TV is not convincing to anyone.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:19 PM

50. From the threadstarter, should any of us be surprised?

 

If so, then I guess you can color me some shade of jade.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #50)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:26 PM

53. Yes...I have an interest in terrorism.

 

Thanks for the cheap shot.

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Response to Rhinodawg (Reply #53)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:28 PM

55. Nah uh. Don't play dumb. "GO UK !!" You knew EXACTLY what you were doing.

 

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Response to closeupready (Reply #55)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:38 PM

57. Yes...its called "making fun of"

 

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Response to Rhinodawg (Reply #53)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:33 PM

56. Yes, that was really cheap...

...after all the OPs you've posted that paint Christians, and Jews, in a negative light. Your posts are obviously always fair and balanced, without any bias or hateful agenda to push.

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:46 AM

4. Islamophobic Underground

:|

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:22 AM

11. Some folks at DU do not like history or being not scared.

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:01 PM

44. Bigotry against Muslims is pretty widespread here. If these posts were aimed at other minorities,

they'd fight right in with the garbage you see at the New Republic. Posters talking about how X minority group is inherently dangerous, posters saying that because liberals don't want to offend people they turn a blind eye to the horrible things X minority group does, posters who post topic after topic about criminals from X minority group (but not about the many, many more white criminals) - complete with big scary pictures of the minority (but hey, the Willie Horton ad was merely informative and not race-baiting, right?), posters outraged that criminals from X minority group were released early, etc.

You'd get banned here for treating any other minority group this way, but for some reason it's been decided that bigotry against Muslims is fine. And it's sickening.

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Response to Chathamization (Reply #44)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:33 PM

48. Sickening to me, but not sickening enough to ban or take to jury.....majority rules? I hope not.

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Response to Chathamization (Reply #44)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:23 PM

52. Well, I think it diminishes partially the legitimacy which the administrators of this site

 

may try to claim with regard to being 'fair' in matters relating to bigotry against muslims.

Granted, this is a VERY niche discussion board with a dedicated few loyalists, but still, legitimacy starts SOMEWHERE, on big sites or small ones. I guess they don't care, perhaps they agree with the Islamophobia, who knows? I don't think they've ever opined about it - it simply is allowed to stand.

So you just have to account for that on your own terms, and either move on or stay but know what you are up against here.

Peace.

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:19 PM

51. This. Thanks. I'm going to remember that one.

 

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:54 AM

6. Bush, Cheney, Blair, Bibi and many others

are also still on the streets - they haven't even served one hour in prison and they are the among the worst terrorists on the planet

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:51 AM

29. I give you one virtual heart. Sorry, tapped out my cards for my real world hearts.

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:54 AM

33. Then they should be tried and convicted of something.

These guys were actually convicted by a court of breaking the law.

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:40 AM

39. So because of that

 

these convicted criminals should go free? I cannot believe what I'm seeing on this thread. Where are all of you going to be when these convicted criminals are AGAIN part of some terrorist act?

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:56 AM

42. They didn't "go free."

They served time in prison and were released in accordance wih law.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:31 AM

43. Then they are free

 

to further do what they were doing before - planning terrorist acts and fundraising for terrorists. Lovely.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:13 PM

49. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:57 AM

7. LOL.

 

This place is a riot sometimes.

Terrorists get early release from prison and the the first responses are rushing to shame the OP/the authorities for alleged "Islamaphobia".

Would any of the posters referenced above care to break down what exactly is "Islamaphobic" about this?

I'm sure they learned their lessons...





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Response to linuxman (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:49 AM

28. +1 nt

 

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Response to linuxman (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 10:02 PM

59. More and more, it's Alice in Wonderland on here.

Sure, let's follow the UK's example and let the terrorists we're holding go free too. Better yet, let's invite them all for tea at the White House. If we don't, we're just obviously Islamophobic.

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:58 AM

8. One wishes he had been a 9/11 bomber

 

Wishes he had killed thousands. Fucking vermin.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:51 AM

30. As Linuxman noted above, some responses here are ridiculous. These two folks should be in prison

 

for life. They are actual terrorists. It's not Islamophobic, or phobic against whatever country they are from to say so.

Prejudice means you hate someone based on generalities about a large group where you have no specific actions about the individual person to which you can point. There are specific issues with these two people.

Some folks here have lost their minds.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #30)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:49 PM

58. Exactly.

Some have also lost their credibility, with me at any rate.

Those with axes to grind used to at least SEEM to make some sense, now that isn't even necessary Was there an "invasion of the body snatchers" that I missed?

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #30)

Thu Feb 12, 2015, 07:49 AM

61. I suspect the response is to do with *who* posted the OP rather than what it's about...

I agree with the first two paragraphs of what you said, though.

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:00 AM

9. Wonder if a jail term does anything but put off the inevitable

Unless jail somehow changes their attitude, it doesn't seem like it would help. One who wishes he was a 911 hijacker is willing to do a suicide attack.

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Response to treestar (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:24 AM

14. Really? Put off the inevitable? Because Muslims are all going to do "the inevitable"? Just WOW.

Please look up the definition of Islamaphobia.

These men were released by Rule of Law. In another country. Do you know their criminal and parole laws? Might want to look that up also.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:31 AM

16. No, because THESE PERSONS were in prison for plotting and...

...supporting violent terrorist acts. Unless their views have changed, why would they not go back to doing the same now that they are free to do so?

The critical factor is their radicalism, not their religion.

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Response to JHB (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:32 AM

17. The critical factor is respecting another countries laws, and it is all about their religion, no?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:52 AM

31. No. nt

 

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:04 AM

34. No, it's all about them being terrorists who want to do

great harm to Britain.
Would you want these 2 living in your neighborhood?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 01:58 PM

46. A polite no.

 

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:36 AM

21. I was talking about them, who were specifically convicted for terrorist acts

Your statement is extremely unfair. I have to see these two guys as the same as peaceful Muslims. You're the one equating all Muslims.

Where did I challenge their laws? I did not say they should not release them. I wondered if jail does them any good.

Your response is illogical, unfair, and mischaracterizes what I said. What are your motives for doing that? You surely are intelligent enough to have done it on purpose.

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Response to treestar (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:39 AM

24. They were released according to rule of law. I am merely defending the rule of law, as my President

instructs me, it is a matter of principal and easy to remember in all situations.

From convicts, to politicians, to Cosby, to the eventually acquitted and the purely innocent, I will defend the rule of law over the rule of media or comment boards. The issue is the process, not the personalities. If you object to the process, then get it fixed, criticize the process, tell the process to duck off, tell the process it stinks, tell us the solution to the stinky process, but attacking the personalities is just being lazy. Present company exempted.

No offence, but I am passionate about respecting the rule of law in the country that invented it and which Justice system America adopted based on the bedrock rule of law.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:40 AM

26. From whom?

Nobody in the thread even mentioned complaining about UK law. We realized the reality that they were released under that law.

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Response to treestar (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:46 AM

27. That is my point. I think maybe the UK law needs amending also, release at half the jail sentence?

I would like to talk about that, because having read the background of the case briefly, maybe they should have served more time.

But the process is the process, let it work out. It is the process of the nation that brought the world the jury system.

Or change it. Provide a solution, like Obama provided a solution in his wonderful Religion Speech - secularism and humility.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:43 AM

40. Oh spare me the bullshit

 

These two are CONVICTED CRIMANALS. One has already said he wished he were one of the 9/11 hijackers. Got that? Wishes he were one who killed thousands of Americans. And you try and make this about ALL Muslims. You're beneath contempt for trying to claim other DUers are Islamophobes for being outraged these convicted animals are back on the streets.

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:21 AM

10. Muslims with beards in mugshots are SCARY! Better get out your blankees! I is scared........

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:33 AM

18. Too Bad, So Sad

 

You're free to try to become a British subject and change the law.

Indeed, that can be your first step in your Master Plan of liquidating the European Muslims.

Good luck to you, Rhinodawg. You can do it!



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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:53 AM

32. The Master Plan seems to have been rejected soundly by France and Germany, for sure.

The UK is also not near as Islamaphobic as America, and neither is all of the EU, but the mass media in America makes it out to be far worse than it is, even in America, by giving massive coverage of every Islamaphobic asshole and buring actual Muslim voices of peace and condemnation of evil, and thereby vastly misrepresenting the vast number of voices that speak peace.

The very concept of American Islamaphobia is a another mass media psychops construct.

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:07 AM

35. How's that Islamophobia thing wrking out for you?

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:09 AM

36. I think he left to get better legal advice?

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #35)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:27 PM

54. At this moment, 52 replies and 0 recs? Not working out methinks.

 

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #35)

Thu Feb 12, 2015, 07:28 AM

60. Working well for them

The admins ignore them and let them spread their hate and bigotry all over DU.

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Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:55 AM

41. Flashback to the Kouachi brothers and Coulibaly in the French massacres

 



Cherif Kouachi and Amedy Coulibaly were both ex-cons who did time for jihadi related offenses.

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