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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:38 PM Feb 2015

Julian Castro 2016

While Clinton/Castro is my favorite ticket, should Clinton decide not to run. I humbly suggest Castro/(Someone older with lots of experience to round the ticket off) 2016.

But he is too young! you say. Nonsense. Think Kennedy. Think Obama.

But he is too inexperienced! Nonsense. He has been in politics since 2001. He was the mayor of one of the nation's largest city's. If being mayor of new York is enough experience to justify a presidential run, then being mayor of San Antonio (or LA or Houston) should be too. And, he is now getting that all important DC experience under Obama.

Best of all, he delivered a Great Speech at a Democratic Convention---and we all knows what happens to folks who deliver Great Speeches at Democratic Conventions.



I watched this live and knew that THERE was the future president of the United States.




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Julian Castro 2016 (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 OP
deliver great speeches....like mario cuomo lol . well J Castro does have his charms. nt msongs Feb 2015 #1
Why? Other than speeches and he's cute. Autumn Feb 2015 #2
Secretary of HUD libdem4life Feb 2015 #13
No thanks, I think he's too green to even be considered a serious VP contender tritsofme Feb 2015 #3
His curse is no Dem is going to win a statewide office in TX DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #8
Dubya was "experienced" spartan61 Feb 2015 #41
He sounds much more intelligent than Sarah Palin. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #43
He won't challenge for the nomination, but he would be a decent candidate in the General. leveymg Feb 2015 #4
"If being mayor of new York is enough experience to justify a presidential run..." DonViejo Feb 2015 #5
Too green, too packaged, and too close to the Clintons. winter is coming Feb 2015 #6
Just a bit of background...his Mother was active in Leftist policies libdem4life Feb 2015 #24
He's nice looking, makes a decent speech HappyMe Feb 2015 #7
What has the young man done for you to suggest he's pusillanimous? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #11
lol! Sure you do. HappyMe Feb 2015 #12
He seems like a pleasant young man and meets the Democratic litmus test DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #15
His lack of experience HappyMe Feb 2015 #16
He really is in a Catch 22 position DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #18
No experience is a big drawback. HappyMe Feb 2015 #19
I don't think he gets on the ticket for that very reason but I need to see how it plays out.../NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #9
Buffet is running? JaneyVee Feb 2015 #36
The Hispanic JFK. libdem4life Feb 2015 #10
To Hell with Julián Brother Buzz Feb 2015 #14
Also, people are going to have to learn how to pronounce Spanish names. He is not Julian libdem4life Feb 2015 #17
I kinda liked him when his name was Leaf myself. Autumn Feb 2015 #20
Is there a third brother I don't know about? Brother Buzz Feb 2015 #25
Oops my bad, I see the name Joaquin and it stops on Autumn Feb 2015 #26
Here's a Fats Domino Joaquin song to really muddy the waters Brother Buzz Feb 2015 #29
Just made my day...memories. libdem4life Feb 2015 #34
I also like HUD secretary Castro Gothmog Feb 2015 #22
I believe this is the 2016 ticket MFM008 Feb 2015 #23
Take out the Clinton part and I'll consider it. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #27
People on the ticket should be able to carry their home state. former9thward Feb 2015 #28
The value is in the Hispanic vote. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #30
Agree...especially the Young Hispanic vote...also the Dreamers and families. n/t libdem4life Feb 2015 #35
I don't think they factor that in as much as they use to. pamela Feb 2015 #32
That's my wish, too! freshwest Feb 2015 #31
No thanks dreamnightwind Feb 2015 #33
Outside of Alan Grayson, who meets your exacting standards? brooklynite Feb 2015 #37
Sorry I don't have exacting standards dreamnightwind Feb 2015 #40
Clinton/Cuomo 2016: Year of the DINO blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #38
he is good but he is not even close to Obama in terms of appeal JI7 Feb 2015 #39
I don't know much about Julian Castro. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #42
That's why we start early...so we can do homework. Either someone is "in the system" or "out of the libdem4life Feb 2015 #44

Autumn

(48,951 posts)
2. Why? Other than speeches and he's cute.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:42 PM
Feb 2015

What DC experience under Obama has he gained? Seriously, I don't know what he has done.

tritsofme

(19,886 posts)
3. No thanks, I think he's too green to even be considered a serious VP contender
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:43 PM
Feb 2015

in 2016. He needs to work on his resume, but definitely has a future if he plays his cards right.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,842 posts)
8. His curse is no Dem is going to win a statewide office in TX
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:00 PM
Feb 2015

If polling shows he can overcome the experience gap the Dems increase and solidify their share of the burgeoning Latino vote for a generation.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
41. Dubya was "experienced"
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 07:45 PM
Feb 2015

and he brought this country to the edge of a depression as well as lying us into war. Yep, his experience was helpful.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
5. "If being mayor of new York is enough experience to justify a presidential run..."
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:48 PM
Feb 2015

Did that Presidential candidate win the party nomination or the General Election?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
6. Too green, too packaged, and too close to the Clintons.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:56 PM
Feb 2015

He's amiable and gives good speeches, but I don't trust him.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
24. Just a bit of background...his Mother was active in Leftist policies
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:35 PM
Feb 2015

That was his first hurdle...to move to the Right just to get to Left. Quite a woman...

http://library.uta.edu/tejanovoices/interview.php?cmasno=123

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
7. He's nice looking, makes a decent speech
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:59 PM
Feb 2015

but he doesn't seem to have any backbone. Unless Hillary is looking for a 'yes' man.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,842 posts)
15. He seems like a pleasant young man and meets the Democratic litmus test
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:10 PM
Feb 2015

Plus he's a member of the fastest growing demographic.

My concern is his lack of experience will be exploited.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
16. His lack of experience
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:15 PM
Feb 2015

and the fact that I still think he's a 'yes' man kind of trumps the demographic thing. Why vote for somebody just because they are Hispanic when you know damn well they don't have experience or any power.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,842 posts)
18. He really is in a Catch 22 position
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:18 PM
Feb 2015

He won't be regarded as being experienced unless he holds a statewide office and no Democrat no matter how attractive he or she is will be elected to a statewide office in Texas in the foreseeable future.


Oh, I won't vote for him because he's a Latino. I'll vote for him because he's a Democrat.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,842 posts)
21. I don't think he gets on the ticket for that very reason but I need to see how it plays out.../NT
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:27 PM
Feb 2015

Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. The Hispanic JFK.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:01 PM
Feb 2015

On Edit: Just imagine he and Scott Walker debating !!!!! Brings a smile to my face.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
17. Also, people are going to have to learn how to pronounce Spanish names. He is not Julian
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:15 PM
Feb 2015

he is who-le-on. and Joaquin is not Jack...but wa-keen. We won't expect them to learn how to roll the "rs" just yet. LOL

Autumn

(48,951 posts)
20. I kinda liked him when his name was Leaf myself.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:24 PM
Feb 2015

I didn't know there was one named Julian. I knew there was River, may he RIP and Rain.

Brother Buzz

(39,871 posts)
29. Here's a Fats Domino Joaquin song to really muddy the waters
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 06:06 PM
Feb 2015

I'll let someone else post a Muddy Waters song. It's all good.

Gothmog

(179,451 posts)
22. I also like HUD secretary Castro
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:29 PM
Feb 2015

I have a couple of Clinton/Castro 2016 bumperstickers that I hope to get to use

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
28. People on the ticket should be able to carry their home state.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:57 PM
Feb 2015

See Al Gore. Castro can't carry TX. No value.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
30. The value is in the Hispanic vote.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 06:17 PM
Feb 2015

Bump up the Hispanic vote just 5% over what Obama took and no Republican can defeat the ticket. Bump it up by 10% and the Republicans are finished in national electoral politics and could potentially lose the House.

Then there is the Hispanic vote turnout effect.

pamela

(3,480 posts)
32. I don't think they factor that in as much as they use to.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 06:22 PM
Feb 2015

It's not like Obama was thinking about Delaware when he picked Joe or McCain was worried about Alaska when he picked Nutjob. Sure, they carried those states but it wasn't a really factor in their decision making.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
33. No thanks
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 06:32 PM
Feb 2015

Recenty watched him on The Daily Show evading Stewart's great questions about how we have helped the banks but not the underwater homeowners in the recovery.

He's another good-looking corporatist who can speak well in public. The pretty face of the capitalist beast keeps morphing. If you like social liberals with neoliberal enonomic policies he might be a fine choice. I think we need someone who is not a neoliberal corporatist, so Castro is not for me.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
40. Sorry I don't have exacting standards
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 07:19 PM
Feb 2015

Representing the interests of the 99% would be an excellent start.

I like Warren and Sanders. If you want too go more mainstream I could settle for people like Harkin (just an example, I know he's past his expiration date) or Sherrod Brown. You?


JI7

(93,561 posts)
39. he is good but he is not even close to Obama in terms of appeal
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 07:19 PM
Feb 2015

i think some have no idea or don't want to admit how unique and incredible Obama is when it comes to his appeal to many people. when people say things about how obama didn't have experience, was young, new to the senate etc. they ignore of the biggest things which is why he was able to overcome it and win.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
42. I don't know much about Julian Castro.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 07:51 PM
Feb 2015

How does he feel about reining in Wall Street malfeasance? The fines have been ineffective.

The TPP and TTIP? How about Chained CPI? Or privatization of Medicare? What has he said about organized labor? Progressive taxation? What has Julian said about raising the retirement age?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
44. That's why we start early...so we can do homework. Either someone is "in the system" or "out of the
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 08:20 PM
Feb 2015

system". We know where Clinton is, now it's time to check out other possible candidates. But either way, there is a contingent that thinks one is an evil insider...the other inexperienced and not fit. It is more than a dyad. I don't know much about some of the other candidates getting named, albeit only 2 or 3, either, but as they ascend, it's time to look and listen and do research.

It would be nice if it were a discussion and information sharing. One can hope.

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