Gee, it seems to be a trend:

[PCIntern]

a terrorist attack upon a group or individual whom the attackers accuse of blasphemy, followed by a de riguer assault upon a Jewish establishment. Call me paranoid, but I would be willing to bet that you'd have to go out of your way to find a Jewish shop in Mumbai, a Strict-Kosher store in Paris, and a synagogue in Copenhagen but I suppose that COULD be just an extremely random series of events like all the people who don't play golf who are hit by lightning three times in a year. It could happen, just like all of the molecules of your car randomly jumping up onto the sidewalk spontaneously. It is within finite probability...But strangely, I don't see too much around here of this little-acknowledged factoid around these parts…I guess people are preoccupied formulating threads about how Israel is not really a democracy in a strict sense as defined by the "Totem of the 'Important' Poster" or that some Orthodox fellow didn't want a woman sitting next to him on an airliner…you know, those aspects of society critical to the life and limb of individuals who are just trying to live normal lives.

I just thought I'd mention this…

JFF: Just For Fun.

[CJCRANE]

1. I also think it's interesting that he was known to the security services, under surveillance and

just released from prison.

That also seems to be the pattern.

Not just in these cases but also other recent attacks.

[Logical]

2. I thought this might another Ebola panic post. nt

[PCIntern]

3. Oh you're just so funny…and incisive!

That's a dental term, you know…

I know you know this, and you know that I know that all you're trying to do is cause unrest, but your logic if extended to the Millennium problem involving computers' BIOS, would have not sanctioned anyone to change the software/hardware because it didn't happen after the fact, right?

So the relative smooth sailing after 1999 was over had nothing to do with all of the software engineers as the so-far successful stoppage of the Ebola virus in this country as of this writing had nothing to do with people such as me being concerned and taking proper precautions to prevent a wider outbreak. But you know this. And you insist upon reiterating your flame baiting Good for you…you're a genius and a great patriot as well.

[Logical]

7. You made my point! I have been an IT programmer and manager since 1985......

There were 1000s of BS stories about the year 2000 issue. Many of us in the business laughed because they were predicting Nuke meltdowns, losing the power grids, etc.

When in reality most IT shops had been working on year 2000 since 1995-1997.

No need to panic. No need to freak out. Only people who did not know what they were talking about threw a fit or people who wanted to make money off of it.

So nice try again.

[PCIntern]

8. Oh yeah...

always an expert in whatever is being discussed.

Things worked because they were fixed a priori.

[Logical]

9. I am an IT expert, not an Ebola expert, but smart enough to read and.....

understand the difference between facts and panic.

[PCIntern]

10. Of course you are...

All those people spent millions of hours for no reason at all whatsoever. Every system would have made a perfect transition without it.
Listen: I didn't spread Ebola panic. I said that precautions in extremis needed to be taken and that the Dallas hospital wasn't up to the task. I was right on both counts so your suppositions are and always were entirely wrong. Too bad for you.

[Logical]

11. LOL, ok! Now get back to saving lifes! nt

[PCIntern]

15. Lives...

Maybe you are in IT. You certainly aren't in Literature.

[Logical]

18. I 100% agree with you on that! nt

[Rhinodawg]

5. Wow,wow,wow...am i apoplectic.

hmmmm...do I want to say anything that will get me in trouble or should I just keep it in?

Decisions, decisions.

[Electric Monk]

4. Does this have something to do with the 21 Egyptians who were recently beheaded?

You left some details out of your OP...

[PCIntern]

6. I wasn't discussing ISIS...

I was discussing select European and Asian incidents…Only if that's OK. I apologize for not writing a long treatise on everything that's ever happened. Shall I go back to the Hindenburg?

[Pooka Fey]

17. Amedy Koulibaly (Paris Kosher grocery killer 1/9 and police killer 1/8) affiliated himself with ISIL

ISIL Islamic State (I think this is the same thing as ISIS). Off the top of my head, I believe he trained for ISIL in Yemen. So the Paris attacks were absolutely connected to the Islamic State, and this fact has been known for over 1 month in Europe.

Link (in French) : http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/01/11/97001-20150111FILWWW00047-amedy-coulibaly-revendique-dans-une-video-posthume-l-attaque-de-montrouge-au-nom-de-l-etat-islamique.php

[PCIntern]

21. Yes but I was not discussing ISIS per se...

I was simply discussing the reaction in these here parts...

[cwydro]

12. Yes, it does...

Funny, that.

[Pooka Fey]

13. Writers & Artists, Jews, Police - this triad of targets has ideological meaning

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This is a re-post of something I wrote earlier today, because I'm sick of seeing these kinds of threads getting derailed by Pathos in all of its predictable varieties: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1015124

"6 weeks after Charlie Hebdo with 3 identical targets : Cartoonists, Jews, Police"

A) Cartoonists and writers who depict "Mohammed" as did Swedish artist Lars Vilks, the Charlie Hebdo staff, Salman Rushdie, etc

B) Places frequented by Jewish people - this time a synagogue, on 1/9/2015 a Kosher grocery store filled with Friday night Shabbat shoppers, on 5/24/2014 it was a 4 victim shooting at the Jewish Museum in Belgium, 3/19/2012 it was a 4 victim shooting, including 3 children, at a Jewish school in the south of France.

C) Police (i.e. those who maintain order in society by defending the other targets listed above)

From an earlier post here http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1015057

Attempts by some to shut down the discussion of others by instantly shouting "BIGOTRY", in order to prevent anyone from identifying a commonality between these two crimes* is called "obscuration" i.e. concealment. Those doing the shouting down insist that we as human beings are incapable of distinguishing between ordinary people who practice the Mulism faith and the proponents of Radical Islam. Which is pretty darn insulting.

Because of this "obscuration", any meaningful analysis of this social and political problem by thoughtful people that might happen, is preemptively "shut down" and drowned out beneath a tidal wave of pathos, suffering, and passion.

*the Charlie Hebdo crime of January 7th - 10th and this recent event organized by Lars Vilks

One of your replies discussing the Y2K problem was pertinent and interesting. How Western society is going to deal with Radical Islam in the world is a conversation that needs to happen. The word "obscuration" has recently become a part of that collective conversation on this subject in Europe, as it needs to in the USA. Peace.

[treestar]

14. Huh?

I don't see your point.

Islamic terrorists are after us all these days.

[PCIntern]

16. See Pooka Fey post above. Nt

[Behind the Aegis]

19. That's not the only trend, the other one is to discuss everything BUT the Jewish victims.

Sure, there is the standard, "well, that's just not right." but, any further discussion of the concerns of Jews must be immediately dismissed, the discussion run off topic with all types of "whataboutery", or blame Israel. That too is a trend.

[Nye Bevan]

20. Well it WAS just a "random" deli shooting

according to President Obama.

[PCIntern]

22. Oh...

were there Jews involved? Just another coinkydink. "It's people like you what cause unrest."

just in case...