American joins in with tormenting bulls. gets gored

[Liberal_in_LA]

Had to have surgery for major wounds. Not getting lots of sympathy in comments section



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2954500/American-youth-seriously-gored-bull-Spain.html

[cwydro]

1. Good.

Stupid fool.

[Liberal_in_LA]

4. .

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Oh shit!

[Liberal_in_LA]

9. the bulls didnt just pick on Americans. animal cruelty doesnt pay

[whathehell]

118. Then why aren't you blaming the Spanish who actually stage the event

instead of laughing at the pain of one young American?

[HERVEPA]

126. Can blame both the Spanish and the idiots who put themselves in this danger and join in the torment

of innocent animals.

[HERVEPA]

128. Awwwww

[Liberal_in_LA]

153. I blame the organizers and the participants. Tourism to the event helps keep in going

[whathehell]

154. Now you do..

Unfortunately, your OP wasn't that inclusive.

[Liberal_in_LA]

158. the whole point of these "run with thebulls" events is to dare them to horn u in the ass

He got what he was asking for

[whathehell]

159. Sure.

Your self satisfaction is duly noted.

[whathehell]

121. No, they're enjoying it..Glad to.see how few recs this mean spirited thread has gotten, though.

[Warpy]

76. Getting pantsed added to the humiliation, I'm sure

All these young fools think they're Ernest Hemingway. At least this one knows he's not immortal and that teasing bulls is a really stupid idea.

[whathehell]

119. Would it be "good" if one of the locals got hurt?

This event happens every year, and every year someone gets hurt..Funny how it's never

mentioned here, let alone salivated over, until a young American gets hurt.

[AtomicKitten]

2. Go bulls!

[Liberal_in_LA]

3. .

[AtomicKitten]

5. Youch!

[AtomicKitten]

10. The family jewels were spared, his sphincter not so lucky.

[former9thward]

37. The wounds will heal.

He will be bragging about it for the rest of his life.

[dhill926]

69. Damn, that was funny…

Hot coffee squirting thrust the nose however, is not haha. Thx for the laugh.

[Kelvin Mace]

77. Dunno

I personally would not be inclined to "brag" about the time a bull shoved a horn up my ass because I was taunting it.

[former9thward]

79. I don't think it was as severe injury as you report.

I saw a picture of him after the attack and there was little blood.

[ND-Dem]

130. where does the claim he was taunting it come from?

[Kelvin Mace]

135. Turning a bull loose in the streets

surrounded by thousands of people, is, in my opinion, provoking the bull.

This is world-class stupid, and cruel.

[Fla Dem]

137. I'm sure he'll be reminded of his bravery every time he poops.

[former9thward]

138. Only if his doctors are incompetent.

I saw a picture of him afterward. Not much blood. I think the media was being sensational.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

78. Gives new meaning to taking the bull by the horns

[A HERETIC I AM]

107. "So....what did ya get when you were in Spain?"

"Permanent ease of bowel movements."

[LWolf]

8. Ouch.

Testosterone wars. The half-to-one ton bundle on 4 hooves with horns beats the thin-skinned, upright, 200 lb version. Who could have predicted that...

[lpbk2713]

11. Some things are just not meant for amateurs.

And some people don't realize they are amateurs.

[cwydro]

12. Sphincter wounds!

Eek.

Wonder how macho he feels now.

[Liberal_in_LA]

14. his special super tight underpants provided no protection

[cwydro]

18. Lol!

I have to admit that if I was going to run with bulls, I'd wear something other than sweatpants.

Maybe my Carhartt farm britches!

Lmao on the underpants...

[Initech]

113. I saw Sphincter Wounds at the Troub last week.

They were not good.

[edbermac]

13. Bull 1 - Moron 0

[yourout]

15. If I were one of his parents I would ask him one question....."Why?"

[shanti]

16. Gored in the rectum

Among other places...Yow!! Bulls win this one....

[Aristus]

19. Rectum? Damn near KILLED him!

[cwydro]

24. Bwahaha!

I saw what you did there!

[Aristus]

29. I make no claims of originality.

A doctor I met during my surgical medicine rotation thought it was the greatest joke ever, and told it as often as he could.

[cwydro]

30. Still makes me laugh!

I need that these days.

[Aristus]

31. Glad I could help. Laughter is the best medicine.

You should hear some of the jokes I use with my patients.

[cwydro]

32. Absolutely it is.

You must be a great doc!

[Aristus]

34. I'm a Physician Assistant.

For much of my life, I was very shy and awkward around people. Humor helped me come out of my shell a little. Everyone I work with thinks I'm this boundless extrovert. And it really isn't an act. But when I'm not at work, I prefer the company of music and a good book to socializing.

[cwydro]

38. Unbelievably

you just described me.

Dang.

[Aristus]

40. I knew I couldn't be the only one...

[cwydro]

42. I'm not a Physicians Assistant.

But otherwise you described me.

Everyone thinks I'm an extrovert too.

I'm not.

[whathehell]

120. Nice to see you're enjoying that..

[Aristus]

123. Hey, I'm not the one who went tearing about around a lot of angry bulls, thinking

"What's the worst that could happen?"

The worst didn't happen. He didn't die. He just got injured, his pride got ruffled, and somebody whom he will never meet wrote a mocking statement he will never read about his dumbassery.

[whathehell]

124. Right -- Now tell me you never did a stupid thing when you were 20 years old.

Nor did that "somebody" (lots of them here) who are mocking him,

Sure, we will all believe it.

[Aristus]

131. Sure I did. But the stupid things didn't have horns, legs, and a bad temper.

On edit:

Later on, that bull is going to be stabbed, tortured, tormented, and finally put to death in front of a crowd eager to see it die.

The kid got off easy.

[whathehell]

142. It needn't be to make those things dangerous and dumb

"The kid got off easy"?

Gee..This is an annual event..How "easy" are the

Spanish who put it on every year getting it?

Oh..that's right..It's not PC to trash ANYONE but Americans,

however miniscule their part in this centuries old tradition might be -- What

WAS I thinking?

[A HERETIC I AM]

108. The Bull simply read the directions.

'Insert post "A" into slot "B"'

[HERVEPA]

129. Great

[zappaman]

17. No sympathy from me.

[Politicalboi]

20. That poor bull with Santorum all over his horn

I hope it washed off without too much splatter.

[HereSince1628]

21. Perfect! The matador that faces that deadly auroch will look all the more heroic

I think this is part of the marketing plan...

Numbskulls get to pretend to be brave while bulls get to look more dangerous.

Win-win as long as you aren't a numbskull that gets gored

[Brigid]

22. File this under:

"What Did You Think Was Going To Happen?"

[justhanginon]

23. When used as a proper name, do you

capitalize the d in dumbass for any get well cards?

[cwydro]

25. Oddly (or not)

you only see men doing this silly shit.

[indie9197]

117. Sorry, not true!

Scroll down the pics

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2361753/Running-Bulls-2013-Horrific-scenes-Pamplona-3-men-brutally-gored.html

[cwydro]

157. I'm gonna call that

the exception that proves the rule.

[hifiguy]

26. You mess with the bull

and you get the horns.

Teh stoopid is particularly strong in this nincompoop.

[Iggo]

94. THAT's the reply I was looking for!

[bigwillq]

27. Good for the bull

[CTyankee]

33. You do understand that the bull is being run into the bullring for his final "act"...

that poor animal probably did not live out the day in Pamplona...

the real crime here is the running of those bulls into the bullfight arena in the first place...

[Liberal_in_LA]

35. exactly

[CTyankee]

36. I visited Pamplona in 2008. I was surprised at how beautiful and lovely a town it was.

A lovely town square. The people very nicely dressed and very dignified. Nobody was weird or off beat. If anything they were reserved in their demeanor.

I had a very different idea of Pamplona before that...it just shows you that you can't make snap judgements on people...

[Brigid]

52. This was not in Pamplona.

It was in Ciudad Rodrigo. Pamplona's Running of the Bulls is in July.

[CTyankee]

88. It did seem strange calendar wise...thanks for tipping me off...

[Brigid]

90. The strangest thing about last year's running in Pamplona:

I happened to be flipping channels one morning about the time the run usually takes place, and spotted a building I recognized from a Rick Steves program about Pamplona. I paused, and the next thing I knew I was watching that morning's run. Because of the time difference, it must have been a repeat; but I saw it. Then I realized it was the right week. It was really weird.

[CTyankee]

91. I was in Pamplona during a trip to northern Spain and remember hearing a guide tell us about

the two runnings of the bulls there. Evidently, the people in the houses on the street rent out window space for muchos euros to folks who want to see it in real life.

I was also in the bar that Hemingway frequented there. Saw that full size statue of him leaning back against the bar rail...a little disconcerting but fun...

[LiberalElite]

28. Go Bull! nt

[ileus]

39. wear real pants next time dumbass...

[Vattel]

41. Human supremacism is alive and well in Spain.

[seveneyes]

43. He Whose OX Is Gored

XOXOXO...

[whathehell]

44. I see nothing in the article that says he was "tormenting" the bull, or

doing anything everyone else there wasn't doing,

so why all the schadenfreude for him?

[melman]

46. For real?

Do you think the running of the bulls is a good time for the bulls?

[whathehell]

47. For real..

Not an expert in bull welfare, but don't see how running equates to "torment".

[CTyankee]

48. we of course don't know what the bull is experiencing at that moment...perhaps it

senses that there is danger and terror which will culminate in the animal's death in the bullring...

[whathehell]

68. No, we don't

and since we don't, I don't understand the leap to assume the worst.

If it is a genuine fact, then yes, I'd be against the event, BUT, if I'm not

mistaken, this IS a Spanish event, so I'm wondering why the harsh words

are being leveled at the few Americans present, especially the one who

injured?

[CTyankee]

72. Yes, it is unique to the Spanish culture, but not to ours.

Maybe there is that feeling that gives rise to harsh words against a few Americans. And I guess you could level the same amount of harsh words against Ernest Hemingway who hung out in a bar there with a bronze statue of him

[whathehell]

104. Yes, and that is why we don't stage this thing..

I'm against animal cruelty entirely, and I did not know that this is part

of bullfighting, which I DO find cruel, and yes, we can blame Earnest Hemingway

too, although if we were honest, we'd realize this is basically the responsibility

of the Spanish.

[CTyankee]

109. Yep. I agree. We don't have to go along with the Spanish fantasy...it causes so much

pain and cruelty...and Hemingway only romanticized it. Altho I love his writing...he certainly did his part to further it...

[whathehell]

111. Correct.

Hemmingway liked hunting too...He was big on macho.

All that being said, it's still a Spanish cultural institution.

[ND-Dem]

134. since the 1200s. or the 1400s. anyway, very old.

[whathehell]

143. Yep.

[HERVEPA]

133. Wow. You really are totally oblivious.

[whathehell]

141. Wow. You really are too

you just don't know it.

[HERVEPA]

144. If you can't understand that that is animal cruelty

and that the idiot who hot gored deserved it for taunting animals, you are really dense. And you can take your smiley and ...

[whathehell]

150. If YOU can't understand that my objection isn't to stopping animal cruelty,

but to the focus and BLAME being shifted from the thousands who have perpetrated

that cruelty for centuries, to one American guy, than YOU are

exceedingly dense. And you can take your smiley and...

[melman]

54. The animals are terrified

[whathehell]

67. Any links confirming that assertion?

[Jamastiene]

95. There are no links to confirm it because it takes compassion

to know it. We can't give you links for compassion. Either you have it or you don't. Obviously, you don't. The bulls are tortured to death after the "running" part. It is a slow death and takes quite a while for the matador to ram spears under their skin and leave it hanging there while taunting the bull and then doing some more. Would you be all cheerful if you were being "run" to go face a slow death like that? Never mind. You can probably feel something for yourself, just not animals.

Personally, I don't care what nationality gets gored. They had it coming and knew the risks and the purpose for the event going in. They were participating in animal cruelty whether you decide to take your head out of the sand and learn about the running of the bulls or not. He had it coming.

[whathehell]

101. Um, no, you're mistaking emotion, or "compassion" for facts

Either you have them or you don't and YOU obviously don't, something which becomes

even more clear in your second paragraph, where you confuse bull running

with bull FIGHTING.

P.S. I need no lectures on "compassion", from you, especially in regard to animals.

I own three cats and a dog, all of which I adopted from rescues. My spouse and I

donate about 3 grand a year or more to various animal charities, including the ASPCA,

the Humane Society of America, Factory Farming and The Harmony Fund.

Educate yourself on the distinction between emotion and fact and stop striking

out blindly when you don't know what you're talking about.

[Pooka Fey]

149. "links" will never outweigh a pair of eyes and some common sense

Here ya go, but I know you'll change the rules of the game on your next post.

Thrillseekers are heading to Spain to participate in the annual spectacle, keen on their own enjoyment but giving little thought to what the event actually means for the bulls. They see the charm of Pamplona's cobblestone streets but what they don't see, or don't want to see, is that the bulls have trouble navigating those narrow corridors, slippery with spilled beer and blood. As screaming spectators hit them with sticks and rolled-up newspapers, they careen into the walls and each other, fall and break their horns and bones, reaching the finish line bruised and dazed.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/04/pamplona-bull-run-running

[whathehell]

151. If you read my other posts, you'd see I responded to this point awhile back..

Number one, when I asked for links, I was not aware that the "running of the bulls"

was a prelude to the admittedly cruel practice of bullfighting.

My point is, I'm NOT an advocate of bullfighting or animal cruelty in any form.

To the contrary, I'm a pet parent to a rescue dog and three cats. In addition,

my spouse and I donate thousands of dollars to animal welfare groups every year.

My objection was NOT to ending animal cruelty, it was to the shift

of ALL the disapproval to one American guy when this event has been

perpetrated for CENTURIES by the Spanish. NO one said a word about them,

until, late in the game, after repeated prodding, someone decided to

mention "everybody' responsible.

That was my point.

[Pooka Fey]

152. 30 Million d'Amis (FR) combats the Corrida

http://www.30millionsdamis.fr/la-fondation/nos-combats/condamner-la-corrida/

[whathehell]

155. Yes indeed..

[Hell Hath No Fury]

73. Traditionally, a "running of the bulls" --

is part of a larger event that end in bullfights, in which those very bulls who were "run" are then tortured and killed by a matador. Those of us who are against such animal cruelty tend to always root for the bulls and have very little sympathy for those idiots who participate in such a hideous event and are injured as a result.

[whathehell]

103. I didn't know that -- I AM against the torturous bullfighting you describe,

but in fairness, you must admit this is a Spanish cultural thing, so If anyone is "cruel",

it's EVERYONE taking part, not just the few Americans who were there.

[ND-Dem]

136. most of them wont be though.

The herd is composed of the six bulls to be fought in the afternoon, six steers (castrated bulls) that run with the bulls, and three more steers that leave the corral two minutes later. The function of the oxen is to guide the herd.[7] The average speed of the herd is 24 km/h (15 mph).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_of_the_Bulls


do you eat beef?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

139. No I don't.

25+ year vegetarian.

And I, as well as most animal rights activists, don't give a shit that "most of them" won't be killed. That time.

[LanternWaste]

87. he received excellent medical care as soon as was possible, while the bull was driven to the local..

"so why all the schadenfreude for him?"

Could be because he received excellent medical care as soon as was possible, while the bull was driven to the local ring and killed for the entertainment of people much like him...

No doubt, many people will rationalize this incident as being not too bad for the bull though. I'm glad however, that I don't know any of the idiots who would do that.

[whathehell]

102. Yes, as do the locals who stage this event, I imagine..

He didn't STAGE the event, it's local and germane to that country, duh.

My point, which you seem to be purposely avoiding, is that HE is being singled

out for blame for an event HE didn't plan and did not engage in ALONE.

If it have to spell it out, and it seems I do, why aren't you criticizing the LOCALS who

stage the event, not the few Americans who show up for it?..Oh, I get it...Criticizing

the non-Americans actually RESPONSIBLE for the event wouldn't be Politically

Correct -- We're only "allowed" to criticize the few Americans who took part.

What transparent and dishonest bullshit.

[ND-Dem]

132. yeah, it's kind of amazing.

[City Lights]

49. I always root for the bulls.

to the humans.

[RebelOne]

53. Me too. I went to a bull fight in Mexico City,

and when the bull gored the matador in the groin, I wanted to jump up and shout Ole.

[City Lights]

63. I don't think I would ever go to one,

but if I did, I'd probably feel the same way.

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. Two months, Bender. I gotcha.

[djean111]

51. Duh! pretty much sums it up, to me.

[Orrex]

55. Vote for Gore!

[Orrex]

56. Caught between auroch and a hard place!

[Codeine]

96. Fan-fucking-tastic, sir.

[Orrex]

115. Why, thank you!

I'm an honest-to-goodness broken joke clock!

[Orrex]

57. Next time he'll go for the woodwinds rather than the horn section.

[Orrex]

58. Must have been out of his gored!

[Orrex]

59. Found himself on the horn of a dilemma.

[Orrex]

60. Obviously someone steered him wrong.

[Orrex]

61. A bull in the calf is worth two in the... Wait, what?

[Orrex]

62. Who hasn't had a horny brute try to get into their pants?

[Orrex]

64. Too much beef is bad for you, after all.

[Orrex]

65. Death in the Afternoon!

[Orrex]

66. Wow. Tough crowd.

I would have expected more mirth in the wake of such a cattle-clysm.

[msanthrope]

81. Wow--you really got the shorthorns. If a pun gets no replies....is it still herd? nt

[libdem4life]

82. I'm sorry, butt I have to laugh.

[chrisa]

105. I was going to laugh at these jokes,

butt I decided to steer clear of them instead.

[Augustus]

70. I suppose everyone in this thread is a vegan

The lack of compassion for this man is utterly despicable and shameful.

Most poignantly, it is hypocritical to the highest degree unless you're a vegan. We who eat meat are enablers for an industry that routinely tortures millions of animals on a daily basis before they are slaughtered for our consumption. Should we also be condemned to having a bull gore us in the rectum? Maybe everybody in this thread posting such disgusting comments ought to look in the mirror before you throw your stones in the glass houses that you all live in.

This is not to make the claim that the running of the bulls is not a barbaric event that oughtn't to be discontinued. But the comments in this thread ("good", etc...) are absolutely sickening, and you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves. It's even worse that you call yourselves "progressives".

[Orrex]

74. If I get gored during voluntary participation in an idiotic tradition of animal exploitation

Then I cordially invite the entire world to have a great laugh at my expense.

That's true whether the goring occurs during the running o' the bulls or the dinner buffet at Hoss's.

[LanternWaste]

89. I have little compassion for people who find entertainment in tormenting animals for entertainment.

I have little compassion for people who find entertainment in tormenting animals for entertainment. The same person who received wonderful medical care after the injury, while the bull was most likely killed... for more entertainment.

Having said that, I give an even smaller amount of credibility to idiots who pretend to know what hypocrisy is, or what shames a progressive should feel.

[OwnedByCats]

92. Anyone who participates

in that deserves no sympathy. It's downright stupid because of the dangers involved, and it's cruel to the bulls. Sorry, not going to give a single ounce of sympathy for that. The whole act is despicable and shameful. If this was an accident, that would be different.

The man will live. He got his medical care, but the bull probably saw an untimely and brutal death.

[Jamastiene]

97. What is this "we" you are talking about?

You can feel sorry for the animal torturer all you want. That doesn't mean the rest of us should feel any shame for knowing he had it coming.

[Coventina]

100. Oh, you are adorable!!!

Bless your little heart for being shocked, SHOCKED that someone was injured by participating in an event that is, by its very nature, dangerous and undertaken by choice.
And that we, as liberals would shake our heads at the idiocy of such behavior.

You are so CUTE!!

I hope you stay and play for a long, long time.

[cwydro]

106. What nonsense.

Please.

Any fool who runs in front of bulls and then gets gored....Well, he is pretty darn stupid if he did not know that was a possibility.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

140. Yes, you who eat meat do torture animals just as brutally as any matador.

Which is why I don't. I ain't ashamed of anything. And good on that bull.

[aikoaiko]

71. Someone who can claim to be butthurt, literally.

Someone has to pay the bill.

[COLGATE4]

75. Bulls 6 - Idiots 0

[Orsino]

80. See? Without the US Supreme Cort, Gore wins.

And the dumbass loses.

[AgingAmerican]

83. Looks like he got a horn right up his ass

What'd he expect?

[NCTraveler]

84. Says a lot more about people willing to host an event this barbaric. nt.

[Arugula Latte]

125. I totally agree this event is barbaric (as is bull fighting) and should stop. However,

I don't feel superior to the people who allow this to continue. After all, we routinely torture millions of cows, pigs, chickens and other animals in factory farming situations.

[madokie]

85. I learned my lesson as a kid to not fuck with the bulls

especially one in particular. Our neighbor had a big white bull and we used to torment him by waving something at him and making bull noises and after a while he got to where he'd chase us. We had an ace up our sleeve in that there was a clump of persimmon trees that we could run to where he'd just prance around outside of this thicket blowing snot and making noises, stomping at the ground, obviously pissed until he'd tire of it then he'd go on back to his moma cows and we'd slip on over too and up and over the fence. One day we were up to our old tricks of fucking with him and away we went to our refuge, except my younger brother, maybe 8 yo at the time tripped and fell. We all turn back in horror knowing that the big bull was going to hurt my little brother. The bull came straight at him at full speed but when he was but a few feet from Jess, my brother, he turned and went a ways and stopped and just stood there looking at us. Horrified of what just happened and thankful the big animal didn't tear my brother a new ass we carefully went back and got my brother, who was terrified as well and made our way to the fence and climbed over it. From that day on none of us would fuck with that bull. In fact it was like something came over him and us kids as within a couple weeks we were able to approach the bull and pet him and if we had a blade of grass or something in our hands he'd take it. he even got to where he'd let us climb on his back and he'd give us a ride. it was a good lesson well learned by us kids.
Afterwards when he'd see us cutting across his pasture he'd come over to us, cautious at first but after a while he acted like he was our pal and letting us know things could have been different had he not turned and stopped that day with us letting him know that we really appreciated what he done for my Brother.

[CTyankee]

86. "nice Mr. Bull...think I'll be tiptoeing away..."

[Jamastiene]

98. I hope the bull taught you kids not to torture animals of any kind any more.

Your brother was very lucky.

[Jamastiene]

93. He had it coming.

No sympathy whatsoever from me either.

[whathehell]

112. More than the Spanish who started the whole thing?

I suspect you'd respond a.little more compassionately he weren't American.

[HERVEPA]

145. Well that's not a very bright assumption.

Do you assume everyone commenting here is anti-American, rather than anti tormenting animals?

[whathehell]

146. Well, I'm afraid it may be brighter than you, actually.

It happens EVERY year and every year someone gets hurt,

Funny thing...It's never been mentioned until now.

Hint: If you ARE as anti-animal tormenting as you claim, you'd be

knocking the INVENTORS of this event before the one American kid

who got hurt in it, duh.

[HERVEPA]

148. That wasn't the subject of the post. And I did knock them in a post in this thread.

Whoever gets hurt in this ridiculous and obnoxious spectacle deserves what they get.
And I sure as hell am anti animal-tormenting. That's why I'm a vegetarian.
Maybe you should stop youre blind guesses as to other people's motives.

[Nye Bevan]

99. Ah, running with the bulls. AKA the Darwin Award Olympics (nt)

[Initech]

114. Definitely a future Darwin Award candidate.

Still an epic fail.

[Tom Ripley]

116. Don't fuck with the bull

[polly7]

122. Yay Bulls!

Sorry for the pain that man will go through, but these events should be banned completely. I can't imagine the fear those bulls have - despite their size and strength. I've raised some, they're normally quiet, docile animals with much more intelligence than they get credit for. I used to ride our biggest one, he was a big, lazy 'teddy bear'. I absolutely hate seeing them abused like this.

[libdem4life]

127. Kicking for the puns...#56 and on ... gallows humor and all, but funny as all get out.

[Rex]

147. Running 'with' the bulls...why not run 'with' tanks or run 'with' rabid honey badgers?

At least he survived...unlike the terrified bull. I can't bring myself to blame a dumb animal for protecting itself from thousands of screaming idiots. Hell the people there are LUCKY that it is a dumb animal and not a smart one! If a smart animal knew it was going to be slaughtered, regardless of it 'running', it would kill as many people as it could and not hesitate.

This is one of the stupidest traditions I know of. Next to snorkeling for hand grenades.

[jberryhill]

156. This is why you should always wear clean underwear