Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:17 PM

Jews didn’t desert New York after 9/11 so why on earth does Netanyahu want to them to run away now?

I’m confused. Very, very confused.

Israel’s Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, says his country is in imminent danger of being nuked off the face of the earth by Iran.

But he wants every Jew to flee terror attacks in the rest of the world…and come to live in Israel?

Makes perfect sense, right?

Well, no, obviously it doesn’t.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2955761/PIERS-MORGAN-does-Netanyahu-want-Jews-run-away-Europe.html

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Jews didn’t desert New York after 9/11 so why on earth does Netanyahu want to them to run away now? (Original post)	Jesus Malverde	Feb 2015	OP
9/11 was directed at the U.S., Euope has a history of going after Jews	still_one	Feb 2015	#1
Some interesting points from the linked article.	Jesus Malverde	Feb 2015	#2
Jews are largely welcome and protected in the U S by law and custom.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#3
He is trying to shame Europe ....	4139	Feb 2015	#4
Not really confusing at all	onenote	Feb 2015	#5
The OP is from Piers Morgan.	Jesus Malverde	Feb 2015	#6
Thanks. I now have and I stand by my post (with a clarifying edit).	onenote	Feb 2015	#7
Perhaps he wants more voters? n/t	LiberalEsto	Feb 2015	#8
Netanyahu is obsessed with getting every Jewish person on the planet to move to Israel.	Ken Burch	Feb 2015	#9
Yes, Ken, THIS. Just this. nt	AverageJoe90	Feb 2015	#10
There is no such thing as 'voluntary Judenrein'.	COLGATE4	Feb 2015	#11
If every Jewish person in the world moved to Israel	Ken Burch	Feb 2015	#12

Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:24 PM

still_one (89,127 posts)

1. 9/11 was directed at the U.S., Euope has a history of going after Jews

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:28 PM

Jesus Malverde (10,274 posts)

2. Some interesting points from the linked article.

If every Jew in the world DID heed his clarion call to emigrate to Israel, then the only winners would be Islamic fundamentalists.

ISIS and Al Qaeda would absolutely love every Jew fleeing their homes and heading to Israel. It would be the greatest imaginable PR coup for them.

The single most dangerous place for Jews to live outside of Israel, statistically, is New York City.

More have been killed by terrorism there this century than any other country.

How so?

Well cast your minds back to September 11, 2001.

At least 270 Jews are known to have died in the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11. Possibly as many as 400.

That’s between 10 and 15 percent of all the victims.

I don’t remember hearing anyone, least of all Benjamin Netanyahu, declare then that every Jew in New York should immediately quit the city and go and live in Israel.

No, what I saw and heard was the whole city, regardless of ethnicity or religion, come together as one to stand up against this hideous attack on their freedoms.

The Jewish community, which totals over a million people in New York - making it the largest outside of Israel itself – stood firm and resilient.

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Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:40 PM

DemocratSinceBirth (99,117 posts)

3. Jews are largely welcome and protected in the U S by law and custom.

And surveys suggest there is much more anti-semitism in much of Europe than the United States. And in surveys of this nature I actually believe the numbers of of people with racist, anti-semitic, homophobic, et cetera attitudes is higher because most folks are reluctant to admit they are haters, even to anonymous questioners.

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Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:42 PM

4139 (1,888 posts)

4. He is trying to shame Europe ....

....shame them to become less tolerant of violence against Jews, more supportive of Israel and less tolerant of Islamic extremism.

It's PR ... He doesn't expect tens of thousands to up and leave

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Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:49 PM

onenote (41,008 posts)

5. Not really confusing at all

The 9/11 attacks were not specifically aimed at Jews the way that the recent rise in anti-semitism Europe and other countries.

While anti-semitism exists in the US, it is nowhere near what has been going on in France and some other countries.

Its actually pretty easy to understand.

(For the record, I think Netanyahu is off-base in calling for Jews to leave Europe; but that doesn't mean that I don't understand why he would focus on Europe and not the US).

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Response to onenote (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:50 PM

Jesus Malverde (10,274 posts)

6. The OP is from Piers Morgan.

Give it a read.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:53 PM

onenote (41,008 posts)

7. Thanks. I now have and I stand by my post (with a clarifying edit).

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:03 PM

LiberalEsto (22,845 posts)

8. Perhaps he wants more voters? n/t

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Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:08 PM

Ken Burch (50,254 posts)

9. Netanyahu is obsessed with getting every Jewish person on the planet to move to Israel.

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The stupid thing is, if they all actually did that, it would mean that the antisemites had won. For all time.

The State of Israel has a right to exist (so long as it stays within thepre-1967 boundaries and the Palestiniams get a state comprising the West Bank and Gaza) but it would be an intolerable tragedy if the rest of the planet became voluntarily Judenrein.

We need to fight for a world in which there is no prejudice against anyone, NOT hive people off into bunker-states.

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Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:39 PM

AverageJoe90 (10,745 posts)

10. Yes, Ken, THIS. Just this. nt

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 01:08 AM

COLGATE4 (14,732 posts)

11. There is no such thing as 'voluntary Judenrein'.

'Judenrein' (Jew-free) is the term Nazis employed to report their success in either killing and/or deporting Jews from a given area to their superiors. A hideous, horrendous term that has no possible use in a civilized discussion.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 02:12 AM

Ken Burch (50,254 posts)

12. If every Jewish person in the world moved to Israel

It would be the same thing as if they were forced out by the Reich. it would be nothing but a tragedy and a victory for those who hate Jews. Nothing positive would result and it would be impossible for Jewish people ever to return to the countries they left.

Why give the antisemites what they want?

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