Does anyone think ISIS might be able to invade the U.S. ?

[dissentient]

I'm talking as a legitimate threat to the United States. Where we all might be forced to start wearing strict Islamic based clothing standards and abide by an extremists view of Islam in our beliefs and way of life.

I mean, hell, maybe they could borrow some speed boats or something, and somehow sneak by all our radars and coast guard, etc.

I'm talking about a full scale invasion, where ISIS takes on our military with guns blazing, a frontal assault.

Anyone? Don't tell me it is going to be *crickets* on this one.

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. No, but I have a different opinion of ISIS based on some of its known members.

Won't happen, and that thought (them being bigger than they actually are) is being given too much airtime.

[leveymg]

2. Call Chuck Norris to stop them.

[Hoyt]

28. Right wingers like Norris, are a bigger threat.

[elias49]

3. Not me. nt

[KamaAina]

4. Yes.

These people:

[dissentient]

11. Good point!

[dixiegrrrrl]

14. They are so tragically white it makes my teeth wince.

I agree with you...we have more to fear from them than an invasion from the Middle East.

[Sherman A1]

5. Depends

On the supply of Nutella.....

[CJCRANE]

6. They could probably drive their long convoy of Toyota trucks across the ocean.

They can go anywhere.

[Javaman]

7. Are you serious?

really, are you?

[dissentient]

9. lol, there may be a bit of sarcasm in my OP. I'll admit

[HappyMe]

8. Really?

Are you serious?

[dissentient]

10. See my answer in post #9.

It is just my reaction to all the doom and gloom hype about ISIS lately, I suppose.

[Agnosticsherbet]

12. You mean project sufficient military force across the Atlantic or Pacific in the face of a nuclear

armed US with the most modern war fleet in the world? No.

ISIS could certainly instigate attacks in the US as they have in Europe, Egypt, Libya, and Lebanon.

For the foreseeable future, the threat from ISIS is extremist cells recruited here from among disaffected and unemployed poor youth who would make attacks like those on Charlie Hebdo, Copenhagen, Libya, Lebanon, and Egypt.

I suspect that the first time ISIS cells attack a church, synagogue, theater, government building, or free speech rally. a majority of Americans will demand that the US invade and kill every last one of them.

To me, it makes better sense to support allies in the region that are becoming more and more willing to hunt them down and kill them, as ISIS is an existential threat to Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.

NOTE: I did not mention Israel because even though ISIS is an existential threat to Israel, the above countries would rather have their entire populations burned to death in cages before they openly allied with Israel.

NOTE: Shia Iraq and Iran would also be unlikely to form an alliance with the Suni countries. ISIS considers all Shia Muslims guilty of apostasy, which is punishable by death.

[dixiegrrrrl]

17. PLUS...that cultural revenge thing is gonna keep the game going over there for a long long time.

We tend to scoff at revenge being a motivator, there is not enough understanding here, of how important it is as a factor.

[Agnosticsherbet]

18. People in the region are well aware of history, and motivated by events of a thousand years ago.

In the US, we are motivated by what happens today, though we remember fondly WWII and have mythologized the Revolutionary War.

[pampango]

13. Of course not. Germany and Japan could not do it either. We are all in this together. n/t

[forthemiddle]

15. ISIS will not "Invade" the U.S. like a traditional "invasion"

But I almost guarantee they will influence the U.S., and our next Presidential election if they attack anyone here.

If in the next 16 months (pre 2016 election) there is a major attack on a group in the U.S.
If they kidnap someone on our soil, and either behead or burn them to death as they have in other Countries, you can bet you bottom dollar that the next Presidential candidate will have to be more than a pacifist.
Remember 9/11? Foreign policy and terrorism dominated the next Presidential election 3 1/2 years after the attack.
Remember Spains terrorist attack on the train only days before that election?
The Hawks will win, the Pacifists will lose. I can almost guarantee it.

So, although I hate to sound like President Bush, for the sake of the 2016 election you had better hope that "We take of them over there, before they take care of us over here".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Just a small point

I doubt they could kidnap an American citizen in the continental United States and get him or her out of the country.

[MohRokTah]

31. I don't think they'd have to get somebody out of the country.

Based upon the recruitment techniques, they get young American citizens to join their cause in Syria.

After training them, they could then be sent back, they kidnap an American citizen, behead them, and put the video on the internet. All within the borders of the US.

That's the real threat from ISIS, and it's a law enforcement issue combined with a foreign intelligence issue so these people who make it out of the country to join ISIS can be tracked if they attempt to return.

[Pooka Fey]

34. which is how it works in Europe.

They recruit over the Internets (or in mosques which are radicalized), train them in the ME, and then send them home back to the West.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. It would seem hard to pull off but didn't some guy behead a co-worker?/NT

[MohRokTah]

38. Yes.

It would require getting a team back into the United States to pull it off, but it is certainly within the realm of the possible. The key would be getting American citizens who have joined ISIS back into the country.

[forthemiddle]

37. I don't think they will take them out of the country

I am just saying that I think "IF" it happens it will be an ISIS militant (homegrown wannabe, or recruit) and they will do some small time attack, or kidnapping. And then videotape as they behead, or burn them RIGHT HERE in the U.S.

I am not saying this is likely, but if something like this happens, then the whole dynamic of the election changes. That was my point. With these maniacs, they don't need to invade, they just need to scare.

[LannyDeVaney]

16. First off, uh, no. However, they won't even try. That's not their goal...

Their belief is their actions are building toward a war near Turkey that will signal Armageddon. They believe only 5,000 members will survive.

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. So, THEY are seeking Armageddon there

and the fundies are seeking the Rapture here.....

Here's an idea...all those here who want USA to invade the ME and slaughter the ISIS, can go over there and fight.
Sorta modern day Crusade.
Winners get to live in the Green Zone or some place equally out of the way.

I get dibs on what the fundies leave behind.

[RiverLover]

19. Oh yes!

That's why its worth the cost to US taxpayers (you & I) of $312,500/hour!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026243310

[Dreamer Tatum]

20. I think they might machine gun a school bus, and then we'd have to hear the endless bullshit

about how Christians are just as bad, it was probably a false flag, it's Bush's fault and therefore not a big deal,
how much we all fear the backlash, and of course the maelstrom of blue ink from certain conspiracy lunatics.

Honestly, THAT'S what I fear more than a proper invasion.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

22. They already have!

Thing is, in this country they call themselvs the tea party and they are doing a really good job of fucking our country up.

[zappaman]

23. It depends how close to shore they can get their aircraft carriers.

[LanternWaste]

24. I don't think they'll be lining up in Napoleonic square formations

I don't think they'll line up in Napoleonic square formations, arm themselves with muskets, or rely on too many other 19th & 20th century standard doctrines.

[malaise]

25. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

only if the CIA or warmongers want that to happen.

[arcane1]

26. Well, Lindsey Graham said they'll eventually come here and "Kill us all"

"ALL!"

Who am I to argue with that wisdom?

[Enrique]

30. if anyone thinks they will be spared, they are mistaken

ISIS will kill us ALL, unless Obama gets his act together.

I saw a U.S. Senator say that on TV!

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

29. Let me respond to this question in a kind and loving way......

WHATTYA NUTS?

[TBF]

32. Yes, they will pull the speed boats out of their caves and

full scale invade. Here's some hope for you: maybe they'll hit Cuba by mistake when they head for FL.

[Brigid]

33. My nephew the Marine says:

They're welcome to try.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

35. Could Al Qaeda?

[CJCRANE]

39. With a little help from our friends.