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Cha

(297,220 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:36 PM Feb 2015

Ad in the NYT today.. "Who is our Commander-in-Chief?"



http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/19/good-question/

Thank Goodness this Ad was put out in the NYT.. get it out there! #NoIranWar!

Let me reiterate Benjamin Netanyahu's quote from 2002 on the War on Iraq..

"I guarantee you it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region"

We all know how this turned out and is still turning out. Netanyahu was Wrong then and he's Wrong now.
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Ad in the NYT today.. "Who is our Commander-in-Chief?" (Original Post) Cha Feb 2015 OP
I'll drink to that.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #1
Mahalo Fumesucker.. Cha Feb 2015 #2
... Fumesucker Feb 2015 #3
.. Cha Feb 2015 #4
K Cha Feb 2015 #5
K Cha Feb 2015 #6
WOW!!!! Awesome graphic. EPIC FAIL by Boehner the Koch lackey. freshwest Feb 2015 #7
I know, huh! Had to Cha Feb 2015 #12
I agree--if they'd put a few nicotine stains on the fingers, a pack of Rothman cigarettes in the MADem Feb 2015 #30
Snowed in and by a warm fire, aren't ya? freshwest Feb 2015 #31
I had to do some more shoveling today.... MADem Feb 2015 #33
K&R 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #8
Thanks 99th.. I appreciate that! Cha Feb 2015 #13
Very good ad. Very real and factual. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #9
Excellent Ad, mountain grammy! was so appreciative to see it was out there.. bless those guys! Cha Feb 2015 #14
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2015 #10
Mahalo SunSeeker! Cha Feb 2015 #15
k&r... spanone Feb 2015 #11
Hey mahalo spanone! Cha Feb 2015 #18
Great to see especially after Giuliani's comments. jalan48 Feb 2015 #16
Good POint, jalan! Cha Feb 2015 #20
Good. KnR. Hekate Feb 2015 #17
It's great to get that quote of Bibi's out there in a big ol Ad in the NYT Cha Feb 2015 #22
Calling tomorrow! sheshe2 Feb 2015 #19
I will call mañana, too, she.. that's what I was hoping for.. Mahalo! Cha Feb 2015 #21
Good for the NY Times and NoIranWar! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #23
It's horrifying what Bibi and Boner have cooked up to sabatage a peaceful solution, Peggy! So Cha Feb 2015 #26
We do not have a Commander in Chief. JayhawkSD Feb 2015 #24
Yeah, maybe the Ad is addressing the military.. it sure as hell isn't Netanyahu.. It's talking about Cha Feb 2015 #27
. libodem Feb 2015 #25
Mahalo libodem~ Cha Feb 2015 #28
Bsckatcha libodem Feb 2015 #29
Thanks for the Recs.. needs to be seen... I know Obama is not my "CIC" but he is the Military's.. Cha Feb 2015 #32
.. Cha Feb 2015 #34
wow I am grateful to see this. oldandhappy Feb 2015 #35
See?! That's what I'm thinkin', oldandhappy! Mahalo Cha Feb 2015 #36
.. Cha Feb 2015 #37
.. Cha Feb 2015 #38
#NOIRANWAR Cha Feb 2015 #39
#NoIranWar Cha Feb 2015 #40
CIC of our Military.. Not Netanyahu. #NoIranWar Cha Feb 2015 #41
#NOIRANWAR Cha Feb 2015 #42
Bibi is Commander-In-Grief! napkinz Feb 2015 #43
What was that all about, napkinz?.. mahalo~ Cha Feb 2015 #45
Bibi's speech at the UN and his cartoon bomb napkinz Feb 2015 #76
Thank you.. I had remembered something about it.. this wouldn't be complete without it! Cha Feb 2015 #79
#NoIranWar Cha Feb 2015 #44
Mahalo Cha fadedrose Feb 2015 #46
Mahalo to you, fadedrose.. really glad niacouncil.Org got this Ad out there for more to see in Cha Feb 2015 #48
*** fadedrose Feb 2015 #50
Netanyahu fadedrose Feb 2015 #47
This is what the National Iranian American Council has to say on Netanyahu, fadedrose.. Cha Feb 2015 #49
A recent CNN poll found that a majority of 63% of Americans oppose Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu Cha Feb 2015 #51
You would think Netanyahu would not want Iran armed with nukes treestar Feb 2015 #52
Good bloody point, treestar.. I can only conclude that Bibi wants war for the sake of war and Iran Cha Feb 2015 #54
Thanks for that info Cha treestar Feb 2015 #56
YR Welcome,treestar! another tidbit of info.. Bibi was brought to testify before Congress on the Cha Feb 2015 #57
K and R, Cha. Thanks. nt mariawr Feb 2015 #53
Mahalo to you maria! Cha Feb 2015 #55
K&R Cha giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #58
Mahalo for the REC, giftedgirl.. good to get this Ad out there from the Iranian American Council! Cha Feb 2015 #59
Negotiations between the P5+1 are ongoing, with a target of securing a framework agreement in March Cha Feb 2015 #60
Support Diplomacy Not War Cha Feb 2015 #61
No. War. Period. I marched in protest many times, of the Vietnam War. I marched twice Ninga Feb 2015 #62
Good on you Ninga! I rallied in NYC on Feb 15th because we weren't allowed to March.. Cha Feb 2015 #69
Thank you and cheers to you Cha. I believe that we can harness our power for the Ninga Feb 2015 #75
Right On! Cha Feb 2015 #78
Wow! greytdemocrat Feb 2015 #63
At Netanyahu? Cha Feb 2015 #71
excellent! handmade34 Feb 2015 #64
I so agree, handmade.. Mahalo! Cha Feb 2015 #72
HA! MynameisBlarney Feb 2015 #65
Poor soggy cheeto.. Cha Feb 2015 #77
K&R! nt AikenYankee Feb 2015 #66
K&R Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #67
Actually BeeBee was correct IF by "positive effect on the region" ... 2banon Feb 2015 #68
Yeah, you are correct.. it's meant bloody-thirsty power for him and his ilk. :( Cha Feb 2015 #86
Happy to give the 200th rec to this. hifiguy Feb 2015 #70
Mahalo to you hifiguy! Brilliant Ad from the National Iranian American Council! Cha Feb 2015 #81
I am so pleased to see this ad..the Bibi/Republican push for greater tensions with Iran Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #73
Yes, they are dead serious, Jefferson. And, thanks to the National Iranian-American Council we Cha Feb 2015 #82
Good on them..I look forward to the end of baseless smears of Iran as satan. Netanyahu and his Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #90
Oh good.. you went to the article.. it's chock full of interesting info and it's from Iranian Cha Feb 2015 #91
I have been following the negotiations closely for quite a while but I was not aware of the Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #96
I was not aware of them either.. and only saw their article after I started investigating Cha Feb 2015 #98
You're quite welcome, Cha. They (NIAC) certainly made a great splash with that ad, I hope they do Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #99
Yes, a Great Splash with that Ad.. and here's to hearing more from the NIAC.. Cha Feb 2015 #100
... napkinz Feb 2015 #74
Bibi's Boner! Cha Feb 2015 #83
:) napkinz Feb 2015 #84
.. Cha Feb 2015 #85
DUzy! hifiguy Feb 2015 #87
Republicans always want war..always workinclasszero Feb 2015 #80
Exactly, workingclass.. thank for reminding us why! Cha Feb 2015 #89
K&R great white snark Feb 2015 #88
Yes, great white snark.. another Obama legacy of going for Peaceful Solutions that Cha Feb 2015 #92
any war bill should have the poison pill : draft. We are all in, or we are not in. salin Feb 2015 #93
Yes. mahalo salin.. hoping it better not come to that. Cha Feb 2015 #95
100% agreed! salin Feb 2015 #97
kick napkinz Feb 2015 #94

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. WOW!!!! Awesome graphic. EPIC FAIL by Boehner the Koch lackey.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:17 AM
Feb 2015
What I'd like to see is a little bit of real 'Journalism' to trace how another war will benefit the Koch brothers...

Cha

(297,220 posts)
12. I know, huh! Had to
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:52 AM
Feb 2015

post it.. It's wonderful that this org, #NoIranWar is laying it all out there for the World to see!

freshwest yeah, the kochs are rich enough.. they need More War like Bibi wants.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. I agree--if they'd put a few nicotine stains on the fingers, a pack of Rothman cigarettes in the
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 02:16 AM
Feb 2015

frame, along with a glass of merlot, it would be freakishly perfect!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. I had to do some more shoveling today....
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 02:22 AM
Feb 2015

And this weekend, more coming!

Who needs a gym membership? I'm about over the whole "snow, wonderful snow" routine!!!!

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
8. K&R
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:20 AM
Feb 2015

Last edited Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:08 AM - Edit history (1)

When Obama does the right thing and/or is in the right,
I totally stand with him, as in this case.

I think the ad is awesome, and hope it turns Orange-Man's
face bright red.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
19. Calling tomorrow!
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:24 AM
Feb 2015

I side with this President, Cha ! Netanyahu and Boehner can go F**k themselves.

Mahalo. Excellent post.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,615 posts)
23. Good for the NY Times and NoIranWar!
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:40 AM
Feb 2015

Boehner is a jackass and a fool, and what I think of Bibi cannot be written. This will do:

K&R

Cha

(297,220 posts)
26. It's horrifying what Bibi and Boner have cooked up to sabatage a peaceful solution, Peggy! So
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:59 AM
Feb 2015

glad they came out with this big ol Ad in the NYT!:bounce:#NoIranWar

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
24. We do not have a Commander in Chief.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:57 AM
Feb 2015

Our military has a Commander in Chief, but we as a nation do not.

This nation has a Chief Executive.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
27. Yeah, maybe the Ad is addressing the military.. it sure as hell isn't Netanyahu.. It's talking about
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 02:01 AM
Feb 2015

a Peaceful Resolution with Iran. #NoIranWar

Cha

(297,220 posts)
32. Thanks for the Recs.. needs to be seen... I know Obama is not my "CIC" but he is the Military's..
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 02:22 AM
Feb 2015

.. not Netanyahu. #NoIranWar

Cha

(297,220 posts)
48. Mahalo to you, fadedrose.. really glad niacouncil.Org got this Ad out there for more to see in
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:35 AM
Feb 2015

the NYT.. I'm calling tomorrow.

snip//

Washington, DC – Today, the National Iranian American Council (NIAC) ran a full-page ad in the New York Times highlighting John Boehner and Benjamin Netanyahu’s outrageous political stunt that could kill diplomacy with Iran and start a war.

“The U.S. and its closest allies are on the brink of a historic deal that will both prevent an Iranian bomb and war with Iran, and Congressional hawks are orchestrating political stunts with foreign leaders to try to kill it,” said NIAC President Trita Parsi. “The American people do not want another senseless military adventure and certainly don’t consider Benjamin Netanyahu to be their commander in chief.”

MOre..
http://www.niacouncil.org/niac-runs-full-page-ny-times-ad-netanyahu-visit/

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
47. Netanyahu
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:30 AM
Feb 2015

is working against Israel to elevate himself

He is blurring the line between anti-Netanyahuism and anti-Semitism. He is so hurting his country. We had such good relations with previous PM's.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
49. This is what the National Iranian American Council has to say on Netanyahu, fadedrose..
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:47 AM
Feb 2015

the Org that put up the Ad at NYT..

"All doubt has been removed: Netanyahu will oppose any peaceful deal with Iran and will instead seek to blow up the diplomatic efforts of the United States and risk starting a war,” said Parsi. “Congress better take into account that if they buy what Netanyahu is selling, it will be American troops who pay the cost.”

And this..

"A recent CNN poll found that a majority of 63% of Americans oppose Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu, which was orchestrated without notifying the White House."

Cha

(297,220 posts)
51. A recent CNN poll found that a majority of 63% of Americans oppose Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:14 AM
Feb 2015
which was orchestrated without notifying the White House.

http://www.niacouncil.org/niac-runs-full-page-ny-times-ad-netanyahu-visit/

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. You would think Netanyahu would not want Iran armed with nukes
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:47 AM
Feb 2015

So why is he getting in the way of President Obama here? It's not like he is Boner who wants to oppose Obama for the sake of nothing but opposition.

Great Ad - glad someone had the money to do it and is actually for diplomacy!



Cha

(297,220 posts)
54. Good bloody point, treestar.. I can only conclude that Bibi wants war for the sake of war and Iran
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:58 AM
Feb 2015

to suffer with sanctions.

The Ad is from these people..

Washington, DC – Today, the National Iranian American Council (NIAC) ran a full-page ad in the New York Times highlighting John Boehner and Benjamin Netanyahu’s outrageous political stunt that could kill diplomacy with Iran and start a war.

“The U.S. and its closest allies are on the brink of a historic deal that will both prevent an Iranian bomb and war with Iran, and Congressional hawks are orchestrating political stunts with foreign leaders to try to kill it,” said NIAC President Trita Parsi. “The American people do not want another senseless military adventure and certainly don’t consider Benjamin Netanyahu to be their commander in chief.”

snip// Who also had this to say..

A recent CNN poll found that a majority of 63% of Americans oppose Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu, which was orchestrated without notifying the White House.

“All doubt has been removed: Netanyahu will oppose any peaceful deal with Iran and will instead seek to blow up the diplomatic efforts of the United States and risk starting a war,” said Parsi. “Congress better take into account that if they buy what Netanyahu is selling, it will be American troops who pay the cost.”

MOre..
http://www.niacouncil.org/niac-runs-full-page-ny-times-ad-netanyahu-visit/

Mahalo

Cha

(297,220 posts)
57. YR Welcome,treestar! another tidbit of info.. Bibi was brought to testify before Congress on the
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 07:31 AM
Feb 2015

Iraqi War Debate.. and this is how he salivated..

"NIAC’s ad also highlights that, in one of the most critical national security debates of our time – the decision of whether to invade Iraq – Netanyahu was brought to testify before Congress. In his remarks he advocated strongly for the war, telling lawmakers ‘if you take out Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region.’"

bibi and bush.. now it's boner and bush.. oh, and jeb bush was seen twittering with bibi about how he couldn't wait to hear his "speech before Congress".

Cha

(297,220 posts)
59. Mahalo for the REC, giftedgirl.. good to get this Ad out there from the Iranian American Council!
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:06 AM
Feb 2015

Cha

(297,220 posts)
60. Negotiations between the P5+1 are ongoing, with a target of securing a framework agreement in March
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:26 AM
Feb 2015
and a final nuclear agreement by June 30.

Great article.. much more..
http://www.niacouncil.org/niac-runs-full-page-ny-times-ad-netanyahu-visit/

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
62. No. War. Period. I marched in protest many times, of the Vietnam War. I marched twice
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:41 AM
Feb 2015

in February 2003 in protest of the run up of the Iraq War... While in this marvelous internet age, I fire off emails/letters to let let my fingers do the walking - sadly I have dusted off my walking shoes in preparation...

Cha

(297,220 posts)
69. Good on you Ninga! I rallied in NYC on Feb 15th because we weren't allowed to March..
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:48 PM
Feb 2015

bc.."orange alert".. but, we ended up doing a little marching to keep warm.

And, thank you.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
75. Thank you and cheers to you Cha. I believe that we can harness our power for the
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 07:08 PM
Feb 2015

good of all mankind. Kindred spirits keep the faith.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
68. Actually BeeBee was correct IF by "positive effect on the region" ...
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:08 PM
Feb 2015

He actually meant : a positive effect for the Likkud party's racists and extremist agenda and significant profits for the arms industry in the region..

I suppose in that sense, that freak was correct.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
73. I am so pleased to see this ad..the Bibi/Republican push for greater tensions with Iran
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 07:04 PM
Feb 2015

is no joke..not about 2016 elections. The neocons are serious about Iran.

Thanks for posting.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
82. Yes, they are dead serious, Jefferson. And, thanks to the National Iranian-American Council we
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:03 PM
Feb 2015

have this Ad in the NYT..


Washington, DC – Today, the National Iranian American Council (NIAC) ran a full-page ad in the New York Times highlighting John Boehner and Benjamin Netanyahu’s outrageous political stunt that could kill diplomacy with Iran and start a war.

“The U.S. and its closest allies are on the brink of a historic deal that will both prevent an Iranian bomb and war with Iran, and Congressional hawks are orchestrating political stunts with foreign leaders to try to kill it,” said NIAC President Trita Parsi. “The American people do not want another senseless military adventure and certainly don’t consider Benjamin Netanyahu to be their commander in chief.”

snip// Who also had this to say..

A recent CNN poll found that a majority of 63% of Americans oppose Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu, which was orchestrated without notifying the White House.

“All doubt has been removed: Netanyahu will oppose any peaceful deal with Iran and will instead seek to blow up the diplomatic efforts of the United States and risk starting a war,” said Parsi. “Congress better take into account that if they buy what Netanyahu is selling, it will be American troops who pay the cost.”

MOre..
http://www.niacouncil.org/niac-runs-full-page-ny-times-ad-netanyahu-visit/

Mahalo

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
90. Good on them..I look forward to the end of baseless smears of Iran as satan. Netanyahu and his
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:01 PM
Feb 2015

like minded are the threat..they are fine with despots like al Sisi in Egypt and the rulers of Saudi Arabia,
for their own agenda...control.

snip*Myth: NIAC’s opponents are concerned Iranian-American supporters of democracy in Iran.

Fact: Actually, the campaign against NIAC is coordinated by far-right neoconservative activists and figures associated with the Iranian terrorist organization the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK).

Opponents of NIAC’s work have been working for a resurgence of the heavy-handed, pro-war, and anti-diplomacy approach of the Bush years – an approach that is sure to fail and destroy any real chance of democracy in Iran – and have undermined Obama’s presidency to pave the way for their own return to power.The attacks against NIAC have further intensified as NIAC has grown and groups have increasingly seen NIAC as a threat to their agendas to win back political influence by any means necessary. Nearly all smears against NIAC have originated from just a handful of individuals opposed to the work NIAC does in support of a diplomatic solution to the conflict with Iran:

http://www.niacouncil.org/about-niac/myths-vs-facts/

It's a great ad.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
91. Oh good.. you went to the article.. it's chock full of interesting info and it's from Iranian
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:48 PM
Feb 2015

Americans who don't want their country to be destroyed by neocons like Iraq was.

Just like we don't.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
96. I have been following the negotiations closely for quite a while but I was not aware of the
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:43 AM
Feb 2015

the Iranian Americans groups efforts as outlined at the link, so thank you for that.

This may be of interest to you, as well:

Netanyahu's Speech and the Politics of Iran Policy
Tuesday, 03 February 2015 10:23 By Gareth Porter, Middle East Eye | Op-Ed

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/28898-netanyahu-s-speech-and-the-politics-of-iran-policy

Cha

(297,220 posts)
98. I was not aware of them either.. and only saw their article after I started investigating
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:22 PM
Feb 2015

where that Ad came from after I posted. I was wishing I had known more earlier and had put it in the OP..

Thank you for the article, Jefferson..

"Netanyahu's approaching speech to Congress is a reflection of the increasingly open interference in US politics by Israel and its political forces in the United States. In the most recent manifestation of the subservient character of a large proportion of the US Congress in relation to Israel, Senator Lindsey Graham (R.-S.C.) told Netanyahu, "The Congress will follow your lead" on Iran and would demand a role in the final settlement. The phenomenon is a direct result of the large campaign contributions that go into the coffers of those in Congress who "follow the lead" of Israel and to the opponents of those who fail to do so. Such is the power wielded by AIPAC that very few dare to stand up to its threats

There are limits to what an otherwise obsequious Congress will do for Netanyahu and Israel. Many members will not vote for a measure that can be credibly presented as an incitement to US war. Nevertheless, we are still likely to see a revealing contrast next week as Netanyahu is lionised (again) by the US Congress even as he is under fire in his own election campaign for his clumsy and possibly costly insult to the Obama administration."

I can only hope it's a costly insult that Netanyahu pays with losing his election.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
99. You're quite welcome, Cha. They (NIAC) certainly made a great splash with that ad, I hope they do
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:52 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:39 PM - Edit history (1)

more like it.

Have a good evening.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
100. Yes, a Great Splash with that Ad.. and here's to hearing more from the NIAC..
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:02 PM
Feb 2015

G'Evening, Jefferson!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
80. Republicans always want war..always
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 07:17 PM
Feb 2015

It enriches their MIC buddies and kills poor working class kids who are in the military because of the economic draft.

So lets break it down...

1. War makes republicans and their friends rich.

2. It decreases the numbers of poor and working class kids.

3. They get to wave the flag and pretend to be America loving patriots while the poor peoples kids do the dyin, not theirs of course!

Thats a WIN...WIN for the bagger party folks!

Oh and this incidence with Netanyahu proves that they will betray their own country to get into another war as well!

Cha

(297,220 posts)
92. Yes, great white snark.. another Obama legacy of going for Peaceful Solutions that
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:56 PM
Feb 2015

too many don't give him credit for.. and, here it is.. right here in the NYT brought to you by the National Iranian American Council.

From their site..

Congressional hawks are orchestrating political stunts with foreign leaders to try to kill it,” said NIAC President Trita Parsi. “The American people do not want another senseless military adventure and certainly don’t consider Benjamin Netanyahu to be their commander in chief.”

snip// Who also had this to say..

A recent CNN poll found that a majority of 63% of Americans oppose Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu, which was orchestrated without notifying the White House.

“All doubt has been removed: Netanyahu will oppose any peaceful deal with Iran and will instead seek to blow up the diplomatic efforts of the United States and risk starting a war,” said Parsi. “Congress better take into account that if they buy what Netanyahu is selling, it will be American troops who pay the cost.”

MOre..
http://www.niacouncil.org/niac-runs-full-page-ny-times-ad-netanyahu-visit/

Mahalo

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