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ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:38 AM Feb 2015

Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS scheme

In a letter to The Daily Telegraph, a group of experts who care for the terminally ill claim that some patients are being wrongly judged as close to death. Under NHS guidance...they can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.

But this approach can also mask the signs that their condition is improving, the experts warn.

As a result the scheme is causing a “national crisis” in patient care, the letter states. It has been signed palliative care experts including Professor Peter Millard, Emeritus Professor of Geriatrics, University of London, Dr Peter Hargreaves, a consultant in Palliative Medicine at St Luke’s cancer centre in Guildford, and four others.

“Forecasting death is an inexact science,”they say. Patients are being diagnosed as being close to death “without regard to the fact that the diagnosis could be wrong. “As a result a national wave of discontent is building up, as family and friends witness the denial of fluids and food to patients..."

Under the guidelines the decision to diagnose that a patient is close to death is made by the entire medical team treating them, including a senior doctor. They look for signs that a patient is approaching their final hours, which can include if patients have lost consciousness or whether they are having difficulty swallowing medication. However, doctors warn that these signs can point to other medical problems. Patients can become semi-conscious and confused as a side effect of pain-killing drugs such as morphine if they are also dehydrated, for instance.

If a patient is judged to still be able to eat or drink food and water will still be offered to them...
Dr Hargreaves said that this depended, however, on constant assessment of a patient’s condition. He added that some patients were being “wrongly” put on the pathway, which created a “self-fulfilling prophecy” that they would die.

He said: “I have been practising palliative medicine for more than 20 years and I am getting more concerned about this “death pathway” that is coming in. “It is supposed to let people die with dignity but it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy...

Prof Millard said that it was “worrying” that patients were being “terminally” sedated, using syringe drivers, which continually empty their contents into a patient over the course of 24 hours. In 2007-08 16.5 per cent of deaths in Britain came about after continuous deep sedation...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/6127514/Sentenced-to-death-on-the-NHS.html




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Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS scheme (Original Post) ND-Dem Feb 2015 OP
“terminally” sedated........... PumpkinAle Feb 2015 #1
actually, i'm very aware of that and worse, which is one reason i view assisted suicide ND-Dem Feb 2015 #2
This is more like hospice care than assisted suicide. pnwmom Feb 2015 #8
This article is 6 years old??? procon Feb 2015 #3
This article is from 2009. blue neen Feb 2015 #4
so what? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #6
I'm terminal and going out with dignity Omaha Steve Feb 2015 #5
Absolutely, Omaha Steve. pnwmom Feb 2015 #9
oh noes, death panels! mwrguy Feb 2015 #7
I didn't think Palin could write well enough to work for the Telegraph. Vinca Feb 2015 #10
So it sounds like in England they doctors make the decision. They must not have living wills that jwirr Feb 2015 #11
 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
2. actually, i'm very aware of that and worse, which is one reason i view assisted suicide
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:44 AM
Feb 2015

with a jaundiced eye.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
8. This is more like hospice care than assisted suicide.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:59 AM
Feb 2015

An elderly relative tried to take advantage of the assisted suicide law when she was dying of cancer, and she faced major hurdles. Two different doctors had to testify for her at two different points in time, and one of them had to be willing to give her the pills. In the end, she failed to get help with this.

So she ended up slowly dying over three or four weeks, drugged with narcotics that kept her mostly unconscious while her body died from the feet up.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
4. This article is from 2009.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:33 AM
Feb 2015

An excerpt:

"Many people receive excellent care at the end of their lives. We are investing £286 million over the two years to 2011 to support implementation of the End of Life Care Strategy to help improve end of life care for all adults, regardless of where they live."

Maybe it would be more relevant to discuss the results of the study that ended in 2011. Even at that, the information would still be 4 years old and still from England.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. So it sounds like in England they doctors make the decision. They must not have living wills that
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:13 AM
Feb 2015

tell the doctors what they want done when they reach the end?

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