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One of the most unchallenged, zany assertions during the war on terror has been that terrorists present an existential threat to the United States, the modern state and civilization itself. This is important because the overwrought expression, if accepted as valid, could close off evaluation of security efforts. For example, no defence of civil liberties is likely to be terribly effective if people believe the threat from terrorism to be existential.
At long last, President Barack Obama and other top officials are beginning to back away from this absurd position. This much overdue development may not last, however. Extravagant alarmism about the pathological but self-destructive Islamic State (Isis) in areas of Syria and Iraq may cause us to backslide.
The notion that international terrorism presents an existential threat was spawned by the traumatized in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Rudy Giuliani, mayor of New York at the time, recalls that all security experts expected dozens and dozens and multiyears of attacks like this and, in her book The Dark Side, Jane Mayer observed that the only certainty shared by virtually the entire American intelligence community was that a second wave of even more devastating terrorist attacks on America was imminent. Duly terrified, US intelligence services were soon imaginatively calculating the number of trained al-Qaida operatives in the United States to be between 2,000 and 5,000.
Also compelling was the extrapolation that, because the 9/11 terrorists were successful with box-cutters, they might well be able to turn out nuclear weapons. Soon it was being authoritatively proclaimed that atomic terrorists could destroy civilization as we know it and that it was likely that a nuclear terrorist attack on the United States would transpire by 2014.
No atomic terrorists have yet appeared and intelligence has been far better at counting al-Qaida operatives in the country than at finding them. But the notion that terrorism presents an existential threat has played on.
In 2014, however, things began to change.
In a speech at Harvard in October, Vice President Joseph Biden offered the thought that we face no existential threat none to our way of life or our ultimate security. After a decent interval of three months, President Barack Obama reiterated this point at a press conference, and then expanded in an interview a few weeks later, adding that the US should not provide a victory to these terrorist networks by over-inflating their importance and suggesting in some fashion that they are an existential threat to the United States or the world order. Later, his national security advisor, Susan Rice, echoed the point in a formal speech.
It is astounding that these utterances blindingly obvious as security specialist Bruce Schneier puts it appear to mark the first time any officials in the United States have had the notion and the courage to say so in public.
And General Michael Flynn, recently retired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, has been insisting that the terrorist enemy is committed to the destruction of freedom and the American way of life while seeking world domination, achieved through violence and bloodshed. It was reported that his remarks provoked nods of approval, cheers and ultimately a standing ovation from the audience.
Thus even the most modest imaginable effort to rein in the war on terror hyperbole may fail to gel.
Redacted from: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/24/terrorism-poses-no-existential-threat-to-america
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)to distract us from the truth that most politicians are doing absolutely nothing about the real problems in this country.
Like racism,
and poverty,
and wealth inequality,
and climate change,
and polluted water,
and food contaminated with carcinogens,
and the hundreds of thousands of chemical compounds that are poisoning us,
and who wore what to the Oscars.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Somehow, SOON, the Hoi Polloi must understand that this, and most everything else promoted by our co-opted media, is all about the money, and the money is going to a minuscule number of humans on this planet of more than seven billion denizens.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)what about measles? That disappeared quickly when the media decided they needed a fresher, newer threat. A corporate media with a 2 day focus to accommodate our 30 second attention span.
Maybe we could go back to the color-coded threat alert system the Bushies used, along with a Wheel of Fortune type wheel with various "existential threats" on them. Spin the wheel and crank up the media apparatus.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and went home, the MIC had to find a new demon. It took them ten years, but they somehow managed to do it. Or perhaps invent it.
Iggo
(49,765 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Fulltime Fear is very, very profitable.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Yet in the land of the brave and a trillion dollars a year to spend - America still virtually drips with fear. Yesterday 62 innocents were blown away by bombs in Iraq....there is a difference between real fear and existential fear spoon fed by the media.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thank you, Dwight42! And a hearty welcome to DU!
These days, the only money is in going along with wars without end for profits without cease, even if it means going along with tearing up the Constitution and all it represents.
Dwight42
(43 posts)When I was growing up in the 1950's my Uncle took me to the NY Stock Exchange to see a friend and then off to lunch.
What I mostly remember was the little placards the read; ''You will never go wrong underestimating the American public''.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Or should we be smart in how we help them?
Sounds like Obama, Biden and Rice agree with you and me.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)Does it look like we've been helping?
Would the threat even exist without our "help"?
Has our "help" not destroyed tens and hundreds of thousands of lives?
Has our "help" not also done tremendous damage to our own country?
No Great White Father from across the sea, you need to help your fucking self and quit trying to "fix" the world as your nation pulls it's self apart.
We can't even manage to care for our wounded "helpers" when they return. Lots of "helpers" in the street from decades of our "help".
pampango
(24,692 posts)to help anyone.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)What "help" do you mean?
pampango
(24,692 posts)and we will not even think about helping you."
If you contend that there are times when we cannot help, I agree. And they will be other times when we can help.
How do we decide who lives in a "cesspool" and which others we might consider helping? That is a tough question.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)I don't object to any number of things done to aid people around the world but in context we are never talking food, medicine, refugee aid, non IMF actual financial support, schools, engineering, water, or clothing really are we?
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)I guess you demand 100% of GDP go to military and security spending to keep up with your rather ambitious threat matrix.
What do you want here for us to be a nation of Judge Dredds or something?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)pull everyone out but if you feel I need to be there to schedule and load plan then okay but it is just one more person to evacuate and I think the military logistics folks are a bit more up to speed on the required job than someone who dealt with consumer goods and people in former lives.
However, if going is what it takes to get us the hell out of Dodge then I'll do it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)madville
(7,842 posts)There will be no increased threat of an attack or event here on American soil?
wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)Terrorism should be handled with "judicious projection of military power."
napi21
(45,806 posts)Even the ones they arrested in NY today on their way to Syria said if they can't get to Syria, they'll do the ISIS vengeance HERE!
Other than 911, the terrorists that have caused the most death & destruction in the USA have been domestic.
