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Rahm Emanuels huge embarrassment: What it means for liberals and AmericaThe mayor of Chicago is finding out the hard way that the Democratic base is fed up with neoliberalism
Elias Isquith - Salon
Wednesday, Feb 25, 2015 11:04 AM PST

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel (Credit: AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
Before I take another guess at the results implications, though, heres a quick recap of Chicagos unusually competitive mayoral campaign. If you look at the final results, youll see that Emanuel was far and away the most popular single candidate, logging 45 percent of the vote. Thats more than 10 percentage points higher than Jesus Chuy Garcia, the relatively unknown Cook County commissioner who came in second. But a key thing to understand about this campaign is that Emanuels securing a plurality was never in doubt. He never trailed in the polls, in fact.
The real question, instead, was whether hed be able to win more than 50 percent of the vote, and thus avoid an April runoff election. Historically, this is something Chicagos mayor has almost always accomplished with relative ease; its even more perfunctory than when an incumbent president runs in his partys primary before the general election. Yet despite his national profile, the backing of the citys formidable Democratic machine, an ungodly sum of money, and the support of his former boss (and fellow Chicagoan) President Obama, Emanuel fell short. Experts on Chicago politics described his failure as a huge embarrassment.
And...
And for their own sake if nothing else, Hillary Clinton and the other national leaders in the Democratic Party would be wise to pay it attention.
Link: http://www.salon.com/2015/02/25/rahm_emanuels_huge_embarrassment_what_it_means_for_liberals_and_america/
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Exclusive: Secret interrogation facility reveals aspects of war on terror in US
They disappeared us: protester details 17-hour shackling without basic rights
Accounts describe police brutality, missing 15-year-old and one mans death
Latest: Gestapo tactics alarm from Chicago to DC as second protester speaks
Spencer Ackerman
The Guardian, Tuesday 24 February 2015
The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.
The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicagos west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.
Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:
* Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
* Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
* Shackling for prolonged periods.
* Denying attorneys access to the secure facility.
* Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.
At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square interview room and later pronounced dead.
Brian Jacob Church, a protester known as one of the Nato Three, was held and questioned at Homan Square in 2012 following a police raid. Officers restrained Church for the better part of a day, denying him access to an attorney, before sending him to a nearby police station to be booked and charged.
Homan Square is definitely an unusual place, Church told the Guardian on Friday. It brings to mind the interrogation facilities they use in the Middle East. The CIA calls them black sites. Its a domestic black site. When you go in, no one knows whats happened to you.
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site?CMP=share_btn_tw
Thought this "Chicago as a Toddling Test Bed for Democracy's Piratization" would fit nicely into your excellent thread here, WillyT. The Big Truth seems to be what's getting left out of Corporate Owned News.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Especially if this fires up people to work for and elect Garcia.
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)But Rahm might be.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)kochs.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)of the Democratic Party traditionally.
If I wanted union busting and private schools, the Democratic party wouldn't be the first place I'd look. You?
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Nor black sites run by the Chicago PD!!!
Horrific.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)If Koch money is evil then one penny taints an entire enterprise.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Rahm is phonier than a 50 cent Gucci bag.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)I am not,,, but I will not negatively tear down another a Democrat just because I dont agree with them. If the people you support cant stand on their positive attributes, they will never succeed.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Coming from someone who is speaking up for Rahm "retarded" Emanuel.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)i never said anything about supporting Emanuel. But feel free to make it up as you go along.
I read you loud and clear, which is why I responded exactly the way I did.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I think not. As was noted below, actions not words reveal true motives. You sure have made a lot of definitive statements with no evidence to support them in this thread.
I could declare that "I am an uber-Democrat and the facts don't support your claim", but it doesn't mean it's true. You have your opinions, I have mine - remember, opinions aren't facts no matter how much you would like for them to be.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)yet you are unable to cite where I posted those things, nor own up to the fact that you lied.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Cryptoad called me a liar because Cryptoad spouted some strange things and I didn't bother to debate nebulous claims.
LMAO!
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)believe that "Democrat" stands for nothing but having the "D" by your name.
Seems a popular belief these days, unfortunately.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Who both spoke at Republican Conventions against their own standard bearers???
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)who got 30% of the vote in a race for Senator in Kansas. He supported Gore too. He liked the fact that Gore opposed a gay Bill of rights.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)You are a danger to democracy.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)And I bet you wonder what is wrong with our Country too.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)knows exactly what he's talking about, and your attempts to smear him have failed.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)damn right it is, and I'm not by any means alone in that.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)but I think your time would be better spent positively supporting the attributes of candidates you support rather negatively tearing down all the democrats you do not agree with.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I have mine. See how that works?
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)I reminded you of that upthread.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I am Fumesucker!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)Fumesucker nails it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)In a world where it seems like we are drowning in left/right horsecrap, it's important to state it as it is. If that means criticizing Rahm Emanuel, the most false "left" politician I can think of, I'm going to criticize him. I'm not tearing down a Democrat, I'm tearing down a phony.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)So, answer the question... Does it not bother you that a Koch is on the DLC board of trustees? Or will you just continue to ignore it?
cui bono
(19,926 posts)
- Polls are like parachutes that allow one to float easily to victory, or they can catch fire. It usually depends on your Karma......

sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)we could rid that city of Third Way Rahm.
Thanks for the OP willy
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)too soon.
Down with the DLC/The Third Way/New Democrats
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Progressive issues won on ballots across the country. And the Third Way lost spectacularly.
Same thing in Europe where they have forced their horrible policies on the people, Greece was one of the first they targeted, now it's one of the first to say 'NO MORE neoliberalism'.
I don't think there is going to much more 'nose holding' anymore. So now it's up to the Party leadership either 'listen to the voters, the times are changing, OR lose'.
It's not on the voters, it's on the Party Leadership.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)we barely survived the last one.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)There is no way that "J Garcia" wouldnt win
Bohunk68
(1,423 posts)Just sayin'. I and a bunch of fellow Deadheads have gathered that weekend since '87 to celebrate JERRRRRRY!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)
Although I realize the expected large influx of tourists can't vote in Chicago municipal elections.
Bohunk68
(1,423 posts)So, yes, this year also. WE decide, not some other people. TRADITION as Tevye sang.
Response to Bohunk68 (Reply #146)
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)...i feel that way, too.
Still, fact is there are gonna be a shitload of deadheads in chicago come 4th of july.
I wish that werent the case, tickets would be easier to score!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)dmr
(28,705 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Viva Garcia.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)yes, yes it is.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I think Sanders and Warren should continue to be vocal and push whoever runs in 16 to the left.
K&R
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)but after the election, they are who they are.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)not people in general?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Wait, leader HELL
HERO
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)MFrohike
(1,980 posts)Most of his pre-presidential days were spent firmly in the middle of the Southern Caucus (it actually was a thing), but this was the first, and probably only, hint of who he could be.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Talk is cheap, but actions tells all.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)try to move leftwards before continuing to move further right after re-election. I don't know if he has the charisma to pull off the charade like Obama did though.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I don't think either Rahm or H. Clinton can. IMO they can't even force it.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)1norcal
(55 posts)President Obama's rhetoric IS the difference, but, in my opinion, otherwise they are similar; republican or corporatist.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)say things that will get them the votes they need when they realize that the country is mostly Progressive on issues' and then forget about it once elected.
We want someone who has a RECORD of being anti-Bush/Cheney policies.
No more Imperial wars, proxy or otherwise. No more neocons in democratic Cabinets, OR Republicans, or left over Bush loyalists, like Clapper and Gates or Brennen et al. No more Wall St, Walmart, Monsanto CEOs.
Eg, how many Progressives are in positions of power in the current president's cabinet? People who OPPOSED the Iraq war, who disagree with Bush/Cheney on Civil Liberties, on Foreign Policies, on Intelligence?
You cannot change PEOPLE, but you can change Policies by putting the right people in power.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)she didn't budge even though she had a huge incentive to.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)left and have long been so. My own Representative DeFazio was a co-founder of the Progressive Caucus along with Sanders and others in 1991. At that time, Elizabeth Warren was a freaking Republican. And while I am sure she has changed from her many years as a Reagan/Bush loyalist I am very tired of this trope that she is the lone Democratic progressive, trying to push others to the left. Her history indicates that somewhere along the line, someone or something pushed Warren to the left, not the other way around. That's what she and her boosters need to talk about, how she came to move away from racist, selfish Republican politics and anti gay, anti choice Republican positions and join along with people like Bernie, who has been doing what he is doing since she was doing the Supply Side thing.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I'd actually forgotten Warren had been a republican. Interesting, that I'd been lectured to on how no one changes and yet ....
You're right of course there are more Democrats to her left and it would be nice to hear more from them.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)when responding to one of my comments. Neither of my comments mentioned her. I mentioned Senator Warren being a republican because the poster I responded to brought it up.
As I said you're the second poster to bring up Hillary--when responding to my comments, when I NEVER mentioned her in ANY of my comments. Good, bad or indifferent.
I was lectured to on how people don't change when I suggested that maybe Warren and Sanders could push WHOEVER ran in 2016 to left--one poster went further in another comment to specifically point out Hillary.
I mentioned Warren here--to show; apparently people do change--and you show up with 'well what about Hillary'.
I like Senator Warren--VERY much. And have stated that repeatedly.
Yeah, the 2016 primaries are going to be so much fun.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)I've always thought enlightening people, and turning Republicans into Democrats was a good thing.
My apologies...
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I agree about people seeing the light. lol
My husband was a Republican. Even interned for Senator Roth (during his later years) Yikes...not only is he a Democrat he's very liberal now. I like to take credit for that.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)She was a registered Republican from '91 - '95, before that she was an indy. Don't you ever tire of posting this debunked nonsense?
Divernan
(15,480 posts)POLITICO MAGAZINE
The Humbling of Rahm
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel fell short of an outright win in his reelection battle Tuesday despite President Barack Obama putting his hometown political clout on the line to push his former top aide over the finish line and will face the second-place finisher in an April runoff.
But the result is also a disappointment for Obama, who put himself at the forefront during the final days of the campaign. He cut radio ads for Emanuel, his first White House chief of staff. And on Thursday, just five days before the election, the president flew into Chicago to give the mayor a boost. They appeared together at a stop in the Pullman neighborhood, where the president declared that he could not be prouder of [Emanuel] and the extraordinary service hes provided. The planning for Obamas trip to Chicago was nearly three weeks in the making, the sources said.
Obama and Emanuel then made a trek to one of the mayors campaign headquarters, where the president told volunteers that Emanuel was somebody who cares deeply about this city. Video of the presidents testimonial ended up in the mayors final television ad before Tuesdays vote. Those appeals, however, were not enough to give Emanuel, who was facing a group of underfunded and less well-known opponents, a majority of the vote.
Polls showed Emaunel closing in on a majority in recent weeks but never quite clearing the threshold. Emanuel vastly outraised his opponents, pulling in $13 million to Garcias $1 million. While Emanuel ran a slate of TV commercials, including one that featured Obama, Garcia was able to air only one TV ad.
The president and his political team now must decide how or whether to engage in a runoff election that will put Emanuels controversial tenure under the national microscope. Eric Schultz, a White House spokesman, declined to comment on Obamas plans to buttress Emanuel other than to say he is supportive and will do what we can to help.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rahm-emanuel-chicago-mayoral-election-2015-runoff-115481.html#ixzz3SnjQqHK6
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That is where he belongs.
I have to seriously question President Obama's judgment for picking Rahm to start with.
appalachiablue
(43,787 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)But birds of a feather and all that.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)only pretends to be part of the Democratic Party so that they can shove it further rightward as corporations desire.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)the privatization of the schools etc.
It's time for Dems to step up and help Garcia. $$, time and votes!! We can do this!
Edited to add the link to his website for donations and volunteering
http://chicagoforchuy.com/index.html
hatrack
(64,160 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)in other places like schools.
It's all of a piece and I hope it comes back and bites him hard.
swilton
(5,069 posts)I may not be in Ill but this is a cause worth fighting for.
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Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)rpannier
(24,837 posts)that of the 7 members of the progressive wing running 5 got elected and 2 are in run-off races
Warpy
(114,360 posts)Emanuel needing to fight a runoff election is in no way any indication of a left-right split or any wholesale repudiation of one way or the other. It's more a recognition of the many enemies the man has made while he's been in office. He's got all the diplomatic skill of a jackhammer and a lot of people are sick of him, not responding to abstract political theory.
Left/liberal bashing seems to be in style over at Salon, as it is other places trying to preserve "access."
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appalachiablue
(43,787 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)former9thward
(33,424 posts)The Democratic Party has had conservatives and moderates from day one.
Renew Deal
(84,642 posts)The Nader voters. They really showed us. Everything is so much better now that Bush served two terms.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Party to provide a candidate that would attract the "Nader voters". But the arrogant Conservative/DLC Democratic Party Machine refused to listen in 2000 and apparently is looking to do it again. Run a DLC'er (Clinton) against a Bush and suffer the same consequences as 2000. I wonder who they will try to blame this time.
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #56)
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Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)just like Republicans, they always blame someone else for their failures.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,848 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)If even one or two of them throw their support to Rahmbo, he's in.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Time to run shitheads like that one out of OUR party. I cannot stand that
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UTUSN
(76,666 posts)Because a lot of us are Free Thinkers and not burdened by tradition, but by fact.
Starry Messenger
(32,379 posts)A labor Dem, not a Wall Street Dem.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,848 posts)in your town. Maybe then "you'll care". Maybe not.
Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)Of course, we will still be told to STFU and vote for the most right wing Democrat the Third Way can find every single time, but it is nice to see liberals making somewhat of a comeback now. I'm so fucking sick of having to hold my nose to vote.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Now if we can just get a Third Way CHALLENGER with serious chances into the Primary...
One thing to note is Garcua came out if nowhere and didn't spend a lot of money, and people still voted AGAINST Third Way Rahm!
Hell, I'll run for President just to give people a freaking alternative. How much does it cost to file stuff and where do I do it?
*hopes this gives people more qualified than I the idea to stampede, if for no other reason to prevent someone not as important as them from accidentally becoming President by soaking up the JUST SAY NO TO THIRD WAY HILLARY vote*
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)They waltzed in kicking shit all over the place with the same sort of arrogance that Bush had when he waltzed into Iraq.
Now the DNC is saying we will throw roses at Hillary's feet.
Sure. Sure.
Fuck me once, shame on you...
These corporate posers and dilettantes need to be flushed out of the party.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)So far it's crickets!
Oh No's maybe there is new data for the same we've been saying over and over again. Knowledge wrapped in self importance is a fraud.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 26, 2015, 07:38 PM - Edit history (1)
H U Y!!!!!
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I hope so. And seems to me that if Garcia got 35% without having been well known he just might beat Emanuel now that people will hear more of him. Although I don't doubt that Emanuel will resort to some ruthless tactics. I don't trust him.
Pragmatists keep saying liberals can't win the presidency but I think that is incorrect.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)A lesson which seems lost on some groups.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Vinca
(53,210 posts)tartan2
(314 posts)I can't stand this prick. He is only out for himself and to hell with the rest of Chicago!!
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Blanche Lincoln? You laughed and said 'don't waste your money we will pull her through', or something to that effect. But she was so badly damaged the she lost in the general.
I love that this will make your monkey ass at least think twice.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,848 posts)chances we'll be stuck with this asshole Emanuel for another 4 years. But at least it's good to see his punk ass sweat and get all crocodile teary eyed because he'll actually have to work for it this time.
KG
(28,792 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)hahahaha. he makes Hillary look like a Liberal. he should lose.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,848 posts)a "grave" to piss on any time soon.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,848 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Those on the left knew Hillary would be a corporate tool, but we falsely thought Obama was somewhat better.
The difference between the two is mostly a matter of style.
Snarkoleptic
(6,208 posts)Governor, Bruce Rauner (R-Pluto).
It's often said of Illinois politics that "there's the Chicago area, then there's the rest of Illinois", which is an oversimplification, but generally, the Chicago Metro is blue and the rest of the State leans red. Rahm supported Rauner and now there is a lot of buyers remorse as Rauner begins the "walkerization" of our fair state.