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GreatGazoo

(4,602 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:08 AM Feb 2015

8-YO Seattle Girl Gets Gifts...from Crows ?!



Lots of people love the birds in their garden, but it's rare for that affection to be reciprocated. One young girl in Seattle is luckier than most. She feeds the crows in her garden - and they bring her gifts in return.

Eight-year-old Gabi Mann sets a bead storage container on the dining room table, and clicks the lid open. This is her most precious collection.

"You may take a few close looks," she says, "but don't touch." It's a warning she's most likely practised on her younger brother. She laughs after saying it though. She is happy for the audience.

Inside the box are rows of small objects in clear plastic bags. One label reads: "Black table by feeder. 2:30 p.m. 09 Nov 2014." Inside is a broken light bulb. Another bag contains small pieces of brown glass worn smooth by the sea. "Beer coloured glass," as Gabi describes it.


http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31604026
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8-YO Seattle Girl Gets Gifts...from Crows ?! (Original Post) GreatGazoo Feb 2015 OP
Crows are very smart Kalidurga Feb 2015 #1
The can also befriend you Major Nikon Mar 2015 #23
Read in Discover mag couple years ago about their ability to recognize faces Panich52 Mar 2015 #32
I saw something like this in a video a few years back, but... Kalidurga Mar 2015 #38
Wasn't that the one that was on PBS? Saw the link on google looking f/ Disc link Panich52 Mar 2015 #39
Yes I think that was it Kalidurga Mar 2015 #40
The crows ohheckyeah Feb 2015 #2
That's so wonderful! BeanMusical Feb 2015 #3
I love them too. We also have ravens here, roguevalley Feb 2015 #4
They are incredibly smart. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #5
they are huge. two to three times the size of roguevalley Feb 2015 #8
How do you tell the difference between crows and ravens? CanonRay Feb 2015 #7
Ravens are generally 2-3 times the size of crows, GGJohn Feb 2015 #16
Ravens are crows. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #17
Actually, they are not CanonRay Feb 2015 #18
Ravens are bigger. Gormy Cuss Mar 2015 #26
No, they're not. GGJohn Feb 2015 #21
They hang out together, and both are Corvids demwing Mar 2015 #34
First, the voice. Crows "Kaaa" and Ravens croak (kind of) demwing Mar 2015 #33
The ravens here are scary smart. hunter Mar 2015 #31
I hear you. :D:D:D I love to see them sitting roguevalley Mar 2015 #35
K&R & Thanks. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #6
sweet ND-Dem Feb 2015 #9
I threw half my sandwich out in the yard after reading superpatriotman Feb 2015 #10
great story Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #11
Currently reading Mind of the Raven Earth_First Feb 2015 #12
I love that book. Ravens and crows are super intelligent. Vattel Mar 2015 #24
They're scary smart! VScott Mar 2015 #29
Ya call those gifts? Where's the iPad, the Xbox? TheManInTheMac Feb 2015 #13
nova did a show called "a murder of crows" Danmel Feb 2015 #14
That wasn't "Nova," it was "Nature." Archae Feb 2015 #15
obviously, I'm not as smart as the crows Danmel Feb 2015 #19
Found it! Thanks for the tip. GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #22
And thank you for posting it! Tom Rinaldo Mar 2015 #30
Gifts from Odin sakabatou Feb 2015 #20
crow skis down russian roof on bottle top... KG Mar 2015 #25
Vending machine for crows sl8 Mar 2015 #27
Funny and profound. GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #37
it is of the devil BubbaFett Mar 2015 #28
Uh, you're kidding? a la izquierda Mar 2015 #41
they's devil birds BubbaFett Mar 2015 #42
In his great book The Animal Dialogues locks Mar 2015 #36

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. Crows are very smart
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:17 AM
Feb 2015

they might be smarter than we are. I like them I even like their calls. It is a good thing they like us too for the most part. If you make a crow mad they will remember you and they will um retaliate if they can. Sometimes they will hate a dog or cat and they will torment them. I dunno if they do the same to people or not.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
23. The can also befriend you
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:13 AM
Mar 2015

A guy I work with had a crow visit him every day for a while and he was even able to teach him to mock a few words. This went on for several weeks. Eventually the crow moved on and he hasn't seen him since.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
32. Read in Discover mag couple years ago about their ability to recognize faces
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:32 PM
Mar 2015

What’s the News: A few years ago scientists learned that American crows can recognize and remember human faces, particularly faces they associate with bad experiences. Now, new research published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B shows that the birds can share that knowledge of dangerous humans with other crows.

How the Heck:

•Five years ago, zoologist John Marzluff and his research team at the University of Washington trapped, banded, and released 7–15 American crows at five different sites near Seattle. Before trapping the birds, the researchers donned different rubber masks specific to each site (a caveman face, for example). While the birds were caged, nearby crows circled the site and sounded alarm calls.

•The team then tested the crows’ reactions to the masks. Over the first two weeks, about 26 percent of the crows that the researchers encountered scolded—with a harsh, repeated kaw, accompanied by wing and tail flicking—the masked enemies. Groups of crows would sometimes mob the researchers as well, squawking and dive bombing them. When the researchers wore different, neutral masks, the crows normally did not react, suggesting that the tagged birds, as well as the birds that watched the tagging, remembered the “dangerous humans.”

•Over time, more crows joined in on scolding the masked researchers. In a little more than a year, over 30 percent of encountered crows reacted, and by three years, about 66 percent did. That percentage has continued to increase. Interestingly, the crows did not need repeated reminders of their enemies. “They hadn’t seen me for a year with the mask on and when I walked out of the office they immediately scolded me,” Marzluff told ABC.


More
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/30/grudge-holding-crows-pass-on-their-anger-to-family-and-friends/#.VPNZxng1jDR

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
38. I saw something like this in a video a few years back, but...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:24 PM
Mar 2015

there was no dive bombing in that video only crows scolding the person in the mask. I had a feeling though that a murder might employ this tactic it's nice to see that confirmed. I wish I could watch that documentary again it had a crow in it by the name of White Feather for obvious reasons if you see the video, but in the end it was just too much for me to watch.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
2. The crows
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:52 AM
Feb 2015

that hang out in my yard are very quiet unless a cat comes into the yard. When a cat is under a tree where the crows can're swoop down on it the crows sit on a tree limb closest to our deck and raise hell. When I hear that I know to chase a cat out of the yard. The crows loot at me like they want to say something and then just going about doing what crows do.

I love crows.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
4. I love them too. We also have ravens here,
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:55 AM
Feb 2015

huge ones. They like to fly for the joy of it and if they are pissed they will tear the wipers off your car and bitch the whole time they do it. I love their sounds, chirps, pops and weird sounds. Love birds.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
8. they are huge. two to three times the size of
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 04:23 PM
Feb 2015

crows. they have huge beaks and if they bit or pecked you it would take skin. They are loud, fly for joy and holy up here. They brought fire to man.

CanonRay

(16,166 posts)
7. How do you tell the difference between crows and ravens?
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:52 AM
Feb 2015

I live near the ocean, and was told that if you are near the ocean, the birds are ravens, not crows. Is that true? I'm not much of a birder, but these crows/ravens seem so intelligent they fascinate me. Used to love the magpies when I was in Colorado.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
16. Ravens are generally 2-3 times the size of crows,
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:07 PM
Feb 2015

Ravens thrive in all areas of the US and are extremely intelligent and are federally protected because they're considered migratory birds.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
26. Ravens are bigger.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:29 AM
Mar 2015

If you see them on the ground it's pretty easy to spot other differences. Ravens have thick beaks and their feathers look a bit ruffled. Crows have beaks that are more triangular and their feathers look smoother.

Their calls are totally different too.

Crows and ravens are both corvids.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
33. First, the voice. Crows "Kaaa" and Ravens croak (kind of)
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:37 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/page.aspx?pid=2501

Also, a crow's tail is blunt and fan shaped, a raven's tail is pointy and wedge shaped.

hunter

(40,675 posts)
31. The ravens here are scary smart.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:23 PM
Mar 2015

They know more about what's going on in our neighborhood than I do.

Yes, they do eat baby birds, quite a few of them, but that's what ravens do.

They also sit in the trees sometimes and "talk" to me and our dogs.

In the wild, ravens will lead wolves and humans to animals too large for them to kill, in return for some of the meat.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
35. I hear you. :D:D:D I love to see them sitting
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:22 PM
Mar 2015

on top of a pole in really cold weather bitching at the top of their voices. LOL! They are so smart its scary. Wonderful animals. No wonder they are sacred. Tricksters. Brought fire to man.

Danmel

(5,774 posts)
14. nova did a show called "a murder of crows"
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 06:54 PM
Feb 2015

Crows are insanely intelligent: they remember faces and fashion tools and can do three step processes to retrieve food. Really amazing-if you can find it online, definetly check it out!

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
15. That wasn't "Nova," it was "Nature."
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:01 PM
Feb 2015

My Mom and I loved it.

Easy to get the two shows mixed up though, "Nature" is on first, then "Nova," Wednesday nights.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,187 posts)
30. And thank you for posting it!
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:09 PM
Mar 2015

I plan to watch it later. I love true stories of the sort the OP is about. And I would love to know more about crows!

locks

(2,012 posts)
36. In his great book The Animal Dialogues
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:27 PM
Mar 2015

Craig Childs has a chapter on ravens and their rituals, history, memory. He
says they are mobbers, together they are called "unkindnesses" or "murderers".
"Of all the bird species, corvus corax, the raven, is considered the most ingenious. And a group of birds whose behavior tops the avian IQ test."

He signed my book "Follow animals, listen to ravens, foxes, bats all around." We can learn from the animals if only we will listen.

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