Bin Laden is DEAD & General Motors is ALIVE

[jaysunb]

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I'm luvin it !

[NNN0LHI]

1. Yea, its all good

[teddy51]

2. There is one minor problem! What proof is there that OSB had anything to do with 911?

Sorry, I'm one person that is not buying it and would like to see a new investigation into 911 to really get at the truth. Most countries outside of the US do not believe that the official 911 story is accurate.

[jaysunb]

3. Maybe,maybe not, but he shouldn't have taken credit for it.

if he didn't.

[Ghost in the Machine]

52. He didn't take credit for it....

Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks
AFGHANISTAN
September 16, 2001

Islamic militant leader Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role Sunday in the actions believed to have killed thousands.

In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.

http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/us/inv.binladen.denial_1_bin-laden-taliban-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:US

[jeff47]

4. Well, there probably were a variety of construction products at the WTC

And OSB is definitely flammable, what with all the resins used for construction. So if there were some sheets that happened to be on the right floors, they'd have contributed to the fire.

[teddy51]

7. And there in lies another problem. The Trade Centre area should have been preserved as a crime

scene, but never was. They couldn't move quickly enough to get the debris out of Ground Zero and that was a crime in itself.

[jeff47]

49. Um.....no. Try reading that again.

The truther above made a typo, and I was mocking him for it.

Please return your theories to the Paul campaign.

[Swede]

5. Sorry,most countries believe that OBL is responsible for 911.

As are most people.

[teddy51]

9. That's simply not true. Many have questioned the story of 911 and what really happened.

I will bet you that a greater number of countries believe that 911 was an inside job than it was done by OBL.

[Swede]

13. I'll have to disagree on that tinfoil hattery.

You would have to believe the NYFD and NYPD were complicit in the murder of their coworkers.

[teddy51]

17. Sorry, but there is no way in hell that building 7 was brought down by the crappy fires that

were in that building.

I expect this OP to be locked at any time, so I am going for the gusto.

[Swede]

19. It's been shown many times how it happened,but nutbags still believe their idiotic conspiracy crap.

nt

[Swede]

23. Fuck off with this bullshit.

Makes DU look stupid.

[got root]

25. same could be said about you

_|_

[Swede]

27. So 10,000 New Yorkers were in on this conspiracy,including the NYPD and NYFD?

[teddy51]

30. What are you talking about 10,000 NYorkers? Another pile of shit I fear. Where did you come with

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that anyway? Is this one your talking points, or what?

[Swede]

50. The office workers in the towers,the NYPD,the NYFD,the US military etc etc

This is a conservative estimate of how many would have had to have been in on it.

[got root]

31. obviously not

[teddy51]

26. No, it makes you look stupid for having a closed mind! DU does not look stupid by this at all.

911 has never had an adequate explanation, and the crime scene was compromised with no explanation as to why!

[TheWraith]

28. Believing in actual facts, not random gibberish, is not "having a closed mind."

That is a kook website. You might as well link to the Flat Earth Society.

[got root]

34. that is why many experts in engineering are demanding answers... facts

gibberish, what you are spewing, isn't very convincing to them.

[teddy51]

36. Actual facts bullshit, the so called investigation of 911 was flawed from the beginning and

many of us know it. You can believe whatever you want, but 911 has never and probably will never be explained properly. I will never let this issue dye until I do, cause many innocent people perished at the hands of some and some of us want to know why?

[Ruby the Liberal]

47. Then how about taking it to the Creative Writing group

and stop derailing this thread.

[Swede]

24. When you throw a rock into a pack of dogs,the one that yelps is the one you hit.

nt

[Ian David]

33. Do you think people who believe the official story are being manipulated by Chemtrails? n/t

[got root]

35. the teeVee

or $$$

[jberryhill]

55. Oh jeez....

By making a big sloppy loop to burn of altitude and having a target that is one of the largest buildings in the world.

[TheWraith]

8. Geez, not this shit again.

What you just said is wrong: the overwhelming majority of the world believes such, mostly because HE FUCKING CLAIMED CREDIT FOR IT.

[got root]

11. zzzZZZzzz

[teddy51]

12. This shit has never been debunked, so yeah this shit again until we get a "real" 911 investigation.

[TheWraith]

14. Yes, it has been debunked. Over, and over, and over, and over.

But people keep running around claiming it hasn't been, so somehow magically it's not.

[TheWraith]

29. And I can link you to the Flat Earth Society.

Someone saying shit on the internet doesn't make it any less wrong or crazy. Case in point, ae911truth.org.

[got root]

39. go ahead

what's that go to do with that site?

nothing.

Those are respected engineers, with decades of experience, who publish peer reviewed analysis of the horrid event, that grow in number daily.

hard to ignore.

[teddy51]

20. The only place that it's been debunked is in the Dungeon, and that site has/had a serious smell to

me. There are so many unanswered questions with respect to 911 that have not and probably never will be answered unless we get a new independent investigation.

[TheWraith]

32. "Unanswered questions" is a refrain we hear all the time.

And you know what? It's not really true. Pretty much all the questions have been answered, or else proven to be based on false information in the first place.

[got root]

43. 'pretty much', eh?

how revealing

[Cali_Democrat]

60. People have claimed credit for crimes they didn't commit

I'm not saying Bin Laden wasn't behind it, but someone claiming credit for a crime doesn't necessarily mean they did it. Also, just because a lot of people believe something to be true, it doesn't mean it is.

I think what opened the Pandora's Box to the conspiracy theorists was the immediate aftermath of 911 and the Bush Administration is responsible for the conspiracies floating around IMO. They pointed the finger at Bin Laden in the immediate aftermath of 911, BEFORE Bin Laden claimed credit.

Well, what evidence was the Bush Administration referring to when they insisted it was him in the immediate aftermath? They connected him to the hijackers almost immediately, before any videos came out where he claimed credit. That was a major mistake IMO. The Bush Administration should have kept their mouths shut about who done it until it was the right time to say so.

Just my two cents.

[got root]

10. the FBI apparently didn't see it either

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden
as it wasn't listed as one of his crimes on their 10 most wanted terrorist website.

very strange.

[NYC Liberal]

71. That page was last updated in November 2001.

[got root]

18. this post was alerted on - can you believe it?

though the jury said 'leave it be' fortunately.

[bluestate10]

37. The post should be removed. It goes against both logic and fact.

bin laden described what was planned in detail, down to exactly what happened.

[backscatter712]

40. The policy is clear - trutherism belongs in Creative Speculation.

I guess this jury did a little nullification...

[got root]

41. censorship sucks

especially on DU.

glad you weren't on the jury.

or maybe you were, there was just 1 who voted to hide it.

[Ghost in the Machine]

54. Link, please?

"bin laden described what was planned in detail, down to exactly what happened."

Thanks in advance,

Peace,
Ghost

[cherokeeprogressive]

44. The same amount of proof there is that he's dead? n/t

[Major Hogwash]

6. Mitch Romney is a moron.

I don't know whether to honk my horn in support of President Obama every time I drive by the local GM dealership or just run over weasels that run out out onto the road.

[The Second Stone]

15. I have had a bunch of bumper stickers printed up with this

and it will make the vultures scream

[teddy51]

45. My last post in this OP and then I bow out. I will never believe the official story of 911.

Many others out there I know agree with me, but I am not hopeful that we will ever see either a new investigation or justice for the crimes that were committed. However, I will never give up hope that some day the truth will come out.

Sorry to those that happened upon this OP unexpected and were subjected to this discussion.

My thanks also to the Host's that allowed this OP to remain alive, and Juror's who did not hide any posts.

[jberryhill]

59. No, now you're locked out

But the corollary here is that Obama is continuing the coverup of the "truth" of 9/11, yes?

[pinboy3niner]

46. Sorry to see a good thread hijacked like this, brother

OBL is dead and GM is alive. Joe Biden NAILED it.

[Ruby the Liberal]

48. +1

Overarching need to derail this thread in case someone out there didn't know the "truth".

[jaysunb]

56. Thanks....I'm more than a little surprised.

The post was meant to celebrate and promote our President, but imagine my surprise when it gets "alerted " and needs to be jury rated,

Damn !

[Mason Dixon]

51. on GM

the argument isn't whether Obama saved GM or Romney would have doomed it. The argument is about process and fairness. Their is a process of bankruptcy, their's a fairness that all businesses are subject to it.

In the end what happened.

First off, GM got a lot smaller.
Hummer, Pontiac, Saturn and before them Oldsmobile are all gone. Buick is an Opel.
Probably would have happened either way.

And It cost money. I don't think anyone will know for sure if we made the 13b as projected in 2010 or the 50b loss projected in 2011.
(cut and paste)Probably would have happened either way.

Meanwhile, Chrysler was brokered to the UAW and Fiat. In fact without President Obama, who knows, maybe the Fiat 500 isn't for sale in America right now.

But hey, thats cool if you're into that.

[jberryhill]

57. Without the government component

The remains of GM would have gone to the financial hyenas. There was no private money to keep it as a going concern under normal bankruptcy.

[Mason Dixon]

61. Of course there was

First, TARP

I know I remember reading and listening to all those stories about banks sitting on money, but not lending it.

Second, TARP

The banks would had moved if the bailout wasn't stringless

Third, TARP

Well the NY Fed anyway, would have been the ultimate backer. Turns out they were anyway When TG got the top job. Who know's maybe that saved money.

My response to the OP is that GM probably would have come out looking about the same that it is, but it shouldn't have been considered too big to fail.

Plus I don't like the idea of the gov't owning a defense contractor. They don't just build cars you know. And they don't just build them in North America.

Its too complex of a company for the any President to be Chairman of the Board. And as GM largest stock holder that's exactly what President Obama is. The first thing he did was replace the CEO. Who else but the chairman can do that? And if the company's success is evidenced by profits, what's the POTUS doing to insure those profits and at what expense of some other private business?

Like giving the VOLT a 10k tax credit. Let me say that again: 10 thousand dollars back to you from the Chairman of the board.

Do any FORD hybrid vehicles enjoy that benefit?

[jberryhill]

62. Here, sit down, have a box of Kleenex

Just let all your tears out now, so you won't have any left in November.

[pinboy3niner]

63. LOL!

I think you, my friend, have got it pegged.

[Mason Dixon]

64. is their one of those

animated things for shaking my head or something

I dont get it

but thanks for caring, sport.

[SidDithers]

53. This thread is a perfect example of why we have a 9/11 dungeon...

Too bad the good OP got so badly threadjacked.

Sid

[whatchamacallit]

65. The OP is Mission Accomplished Redux

which makes it shit.

[jberryhill]

66. Excerpt that this time, missions were actually accomplished

[alcibiades_mystery]

67. ROFL

Nicely done.

As anybody with a lick of sense gets, killing that fuckstick bin Laden was an actual accomplished mission, but the haters and conspiritators will never allow that. Whatever. They're marginal imbeciles.

[whatchamacallit]

73. Nice call out

Too bad you don't have the stones to say it directly to me.

[pinboy3niner]

68. Bin Laden's DEAD? OMG!!!

Has anyone told the President?

[jberryhill]

69. He just found out McCain was a POW

What an amazing little-known fact.

[pinboy3niner]

70. McCain's been CAPTURED? Those damn Taliban!!!

Does the President know?

[NYC Liberal]

72. Amen.