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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:16 PM Mar 2015

Do you think Hillary Clinton is going to run?

All of the teeth gnashing on this site over her potential candidacy and she has not yet declared, and as far as I know started the obligatory exploratory committee.

Is it just accepted wisdom that she's in?

I'm going to plant my flag here: I don't think she will be the Democratic nominee next year but unlike others, I think she will not be the nominee because she will not run.

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Do you think Hillary Clinton is going to run? (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 OP
I think you're wrong but hope you're right. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #1
She is currently assembling a campaign team. She's running. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #2
She might be buying the campaigners so others don't have the choices langstonhues Mar 2015 #21
Her campaign to date includes leaks, surrogate attacks, & announcements of coming announcements. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #3
Who are the flying monkeys? NCTraveler Mar 2015 #5
There was a tag-team attack on Elizabeth Warren from Howard Dean and Warren Buffet today. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #7
EW can take it. She is tough. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #18
She's already announced when she will announce. FSogol Mar 2015 #4
Not sure. dissentient Mar 2015 #6
I'm not convinced she is running. KMOD Mar 2015 #8
I think she wants to be President but doesn't like running for President. PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #20
Yeah, she's going to run. But when she announces she better get ready for people Autumn Mar 2015 #9
Of course she is running OKNancy Mar 2015 #10
We've been hearing about this for HappyMe Mar 2015 #11
You're going to need a new username, Capt. Obvious. Chiyo-chichi Mar 2015 #12
Of course. RedCappedBandit Mar 2015 #13
She announces in April wyldwolf Mar 2015 #14
The only reason she will not run is if a major health issue appears. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #15
If she was not going to run wouldn't she notify the DMC so they could start grooming others? Kablooie Mar 2015 #16
She is putting together staff. former9thward Mar 2015 #17
Exactly. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #22
Yes bigwillq Mar 2015 #19
Everything is revealed in the fullness of time./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #36
I fully expect her to run. n/t winter is coming Mar 2015 #23
If she wasn't going to run she would have said so JI7 Mar 2015 #24
I think the answer is rather obvious, Capt Obvious NightWatcher Mar 2015 #25
I think she wants to.... daleanime Mar 2015 #26
If she doesn't run, she's smarter than I give credit Android3.14 Mar 2015 #27
Yes. Why would a person with existing infrastructure in place need exploring of anything? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #28
I just have a feeling she doesn't want to go through that again Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #30
I'm not able to know or even guess what she thinks... HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #31
I'm sure this will be flogged to death on the right Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #32
The right can try... HRC has long drawn 'special' attention from the right HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #34
I am convinced she will run. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #29
I'm not convinced - TBF Mar 2015 #33
And she will win. Orsino Mar 2015 #35
 

langstonhues

(49 posts)
21. She might be buying the campaigners so others don't have the choices
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

then she will choose who she will support and that choice will have the early support so important. I don't think that choice will be a Sanders or a Warren, but someone who also believes in big money and small government.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
3. Her campaign to date includes leaks, surrogate attacks, & announcements of coming announcements.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:18 PM
Mar 2015

Of course she's running.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
18. EW can take it. She is tough.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:35 PM
Mar 2015

I still have enough respect for Dean to not call him a flying monkey. Extremely smart man who has devoted a good portion of his time to great causes.

FSogol

(45,694 posts)
4. She's already announced when she will announce.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:20 PM
Mar 2015

She leads in the polls, leads in organization, and lead in dollars. Why wouldn't she run?

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
8. I'm not convinced she is running.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:23 PM
Mar 2015

I think she will do all she can to help the eventual nominee, but I don't get the sense that she wants to run.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
20. I think she wants to be President but doesn't like running for President.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

Campaigns are grueling and only a few politicians actually seem to enjoy them.


Autumn

(45,151 posts)
9. Yeah, she's going to run. But when she announces she better get ready for people
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:24 PM
Mar 2015

looking close at her stand on the TPP, Keystone, banks and wars, looking at them and asking questions She won't have the luxury of keeping quiet then.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
11. We've been hearing about this for
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:25 PM
Mar 2015

the past 2 damn years. She probably will. She's made announcements that she will be making an announcement.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
13. Of course.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:26 PM
Mar 2015

I'm no fan, but it's obvious she has a high chance of succeeding. Nobody with that much potential would turn it down.

Kablooie

(18,673 posts)
16. If she was not going to run wouldn't she notify the DMC so they could start grooming others?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:29 PM
Mar 2015

There's no real rumors of anyone else flying around, Elizabeth and Bernie notwithstanding.
If she pulls out without preparing them it could upset a lot of people and brighten the faces of the GOP.

former9thward

(32,389 posts)
17. She is putting together staff.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:29 PM
Mar 2015

People like John Podesta do not quit White House jobs to join something that "might" happen.

JI7

(89,390 posts)
24. If she wasn't going to run she would have said so
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:37 PM
Mar 2015

right now and a bunch of other democrats would be going to iowa and nh.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
25. I think the answer is rather obvious, Capt Obvious
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:38 PM
Mar 2015

She is definitely going to run. I'm not a fan but will vote for the nom.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
26. I think she wants to....
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:43 PM
Mar 2015

but she knows that a large group wouldn't be happy with that, and then you have to think about the republicans.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
27. If she doesn't run, she's smarter than I give credit
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:45 PM
Mar 2015

Despite the manipulated polls, it is obvious there is a significant and vocal group within the Democratic Party who are against more warmongering corporate shills who behave like they are entitled to the Presidency.

That being said, I think she will run specifically because she is a warmongering corporate shill who thinks she is entitled to the Presidency. I doubt she will win, but even if she does win, the American people lose. Maybe not as bad a loss as a Republican President, but we will still lose.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
28. Yes. Why would a person with existing infrastructure in place need exploring of anything?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:49 PM
Mar 2015

I do think she has freedom before announcing that doesn't exist afterward...coordination with pacs, avoidance of having to respond to media questions whose answers be seen as different from answers needed later, etc.

So there's no reason for her to be in a rush and candidates typically announce ~June to early October.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
30. I just have a feeling she doesn't want to go through that again
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:07 AM
Mar 2015

and then I read this last night.

She may be keeping her options in play as she should but I think she's going to yank out at the last minute (last minute for Presidential primary season anyway).

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
31. I'm not able to know or even guess what she thinks...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:18 AM
Mar 2015

I'm not part of Team H, but she's a professional with a staff with a rolodex, she'll always have a team ready to respond to things like this, and this really isn't 'big' at this point.

She's done the right thing by admitting it. The problem is -not- going to grow because of a cover-up

Moreover, it's pretty clear that alternate communications systems aren't uncommon for republicans. I'm not at all sure this will turn into anything

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
32. I'm sure this will be flogged to death on the right
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:21 AM
Mar 2015

and forced into the MSM for just about as long.

Until the next Clinton "controversy."

My gut was telling me she's going to decide it's not worth before this.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
34. The right can try... HRC has long drawn 'special' attention from the right
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:40 AM
Mar 2015

That's never going to change, there will always be a next. But that says more about her opponents than her wrong doing.

It's very early in this dust-up. What do any of us know about the rule/laws in play?

Close inspection of the rules/laws about archival record keeping, transparency, security etc which will follow soon, may show no wrong doing in the end.



 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
29. I am convinced she will run.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:52 PM
Mar 2015

If she doesn't I think our chances of winning the White House go down big.

TBF

(32,312 posts)
33. I'm not convinced -
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:31 AM
Mar 2015

The difficulty for the dems though is putting up someone in her place. Bernie and Liz are both great but I'm not sure either are mainstream enough to win. I'm still hoping Julian Castro will pull an Obama and announce before he's "supposed" to.

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