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This is the reason to support the democratic candidate, whoever it is (Original Post) Stuart G Mar 2015 OP
And what guarantee do we have that Hillary won't appoint a pro-Wall Street justice? Maedhros Mar 2015 #1
If the nominee is Hillary, she will do better than what the Republicans nominate. Stuart G Mar 2015 #2
Yes. The difference may not be a great as I'd prefer, but it exists. Orsino Mar 2015 #3
Why would she bite the hand that feeds her and her family, their assigns, their progeny BubbaFett Mar 2015 #7
oh ffs yeah president walker will pick a better one Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #16
The point is: Maedhros Mar 2015 #19
Are Breyer and Ginsburg "Wall Street" justices?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #20
Ginsburg? No. Breyer? medium leaning no Sotomayor? Medium leaning yes. Kagan? Yes. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #21
If a Democratic candidate won, who was Leiberman on steroids, and campaigned dissentient Mar 2015 #4
For me, this is not a "blind loyalty oath" Stuart G Mar 2015 #6
My loyalty is to myself and my family. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #11
Shocker. bigwillq Mar 2015 #12
. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #18
That's just one of them. There are tons of reasons. DanTex Mar 2015 #5
Just one of many important reasons to vote for the Democratic Party candidate in every election. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #8
Who a D president wants will mean diddly squat as long as the Senate is run by Rs. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #9
Who an R president wants, however, would sail through. KamaAina Mar 2015 #13
How's that been working out for the R Senate lately? Sheepshank Mar 2015 #14
I support local/state candidates. I "vote" for whomever is nominated for the big D ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #10
This Straw Man is getting so old daredtowork Mar 2015 #15
the op said nothing about hillary Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #17
The "Hillary" is implied. nt daredtowork Mar 2015 #23
that's what you inferred but "whoever it is" implies no one Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #24
Smoke and mirrors~ ;) nt daredtowork Mar 2015 #25
Yeah, that's probably the 10,000th time its been posted in DU history Doctor_J Mar 2015 #22
And the FCC, also very important now. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #26
Yeah, that will get out the vote. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #27

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. If the nominee is Hillary, she will do better than what the Republicans nominate.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:13 PM
Mar 2015

Her appointees, in my opinion, would be far better, than any put up by any Republican. There are no guarantees. That is what I believe. Bush/Rand Paul/ asshole Walker...or whoever..

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
3. Yes. The difference may not be a great as I'd prefer, but it exists.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:16 PM
Mar 2015

Vote against Republicans every chance you get. While you still can.

 

BubbaFett

(361 posts)
7. Why would she bite the hand that feeds her and her family, their assigns, their progeny
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:28 PM
Mar 2015

and their children's children's grandchildren in the future to come?

What incentive would she have to side with we commoners in anything?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
19. The point is:
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 04:57 PM
Mar 2015

if you want me to vote for a candidate, give me positive reasons to do so rather than try and scare me with the opposition.

I will be ignoring you now.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
21. Ginsburg? No. Breyer? medium leaning no Sotomayor? Medium leaning yes. Kagan? Yes.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:33 PM
Mar 2015

It isn't most accurately a yes or no but rather a continuum between fiercely opposed (a universe of 0) and absolutely favors, which I think actually is represented best by Roberts who favors even when doing so conflicts with being a Birch Society level, rockribbed rightist.

There is no "swing" vote here, I think the court is at best solidly 2-7 with the Citizens United split divided more on authority of government lines than anything. Keep in mind that CU doesn't actually that broadly benefit business but rather the biggest over dogs or what is more feared someone who has the right connections at the right time.
Yes, every company wants market share and competitive advantage but many get it might not be them with the last chair when the music stops.

Hell, CU has nuance for me even though I absolutely oppose it and that is that I actually believe it is the right decision in a letter of the law kind of way it just is obscenely bad governance that strikes right at the heart of the spirit of the law of one person, one vote.

Supporting the letter like this negates the whole purpose of having a human judge in the first place in my opinion.

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
4. If a Democratic candidate won, who was Leiberman on steroids, and campaigned
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:18 PM
Mar 2015

on a platform of invading Iran as the first order of business to stop the Iranian "threat" once and for all, would you still vote for them?

Whenever I see posts like that, it makes me think of a scenario, however unlikely, and then wonder if there any limits. Surely there are some limits to these blind loyalty oaths. I hope.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
6. For me, this is not a "blind loyalty oath"
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:26 PM
Mar 2015

Right now, that is how I feel and believe. the republicans could put up someone who is totally absurd. My loyalty is to a sane leader, rather than an idiot. All of the current crowd of democratic possibilities are sane. Not all of the pukes are sane.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
5. That's just one of them. There are tons of reasons.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:22 PM
Mar 2015

Economic policy, social policy, foreign policy, everything.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
8. Just one of many important reasons to vote for the Democratic Party candidate in every election.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:47 PM
Mar 2015

Good point, thanks, it cannot be said often enough.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
10. I support local/state candidates. I "vote" for whomever is nominated for the big D
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:50 PM
Mar 2015

but otherwise, I'm over it.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
15. This Straw Man is getting so old
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:59 PM
Mar 2015

Protesting against or campaigning against Hillary, who has not even declared she will run in the PRIMARY yet, is not a declaration one will not vote in the general election or that one is not a Democrat.

DOWN WITH LOYALTY OATHS!!!

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
22. Yeah, that's probably the 10,000th time its been posted in DU history
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:53 PM
Mar 2015

Seems to be the last Refuge Of The Turd Way. Always gets plenty of recs though

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
27. Yeah, that will get out the vote.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:33 PM
Mar 2015

The idea that we can have a Democratic President appoint a massive conservative to the court so the nomination will get past the Republican majority in the Senate.

Yeah, that's a victory to strive for.

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