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Bill Nye Booed in Waco for saying Moon doesn't have its own light. (Original Post) nolabear May 2012 OP
Not even a tad bit of the article. Just a link? Well, here I'll do it for you. Lionessa May 2012 #1
Okay, so reverence for...what? The Moon God? What exactly do those people in Waco believe? AllyCat May 2012 #10
The bible sez that "god made two lights", so since the bible is ALWAYS RIGHT Warren DeMontague May 2012 #18
Uh. Ok. AllyCat May 2012 #23
You can't have one incandescent and one carbon filament I guess. Bandit May 2012 #35
"Two Lights", is a great State Park just south of Portland Maine. Throckmorton May 2012 #26
Stated clearly, they have reverence for ignorance. They are proud and righteous about their general Lionessa May 2012 #19
Thank you, this makes it easier for those dmr May 2012 #13
Welcome, I really hate link only OPs. Lionessa May 2012 #20
Welcome to Texas, Bill. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #36
thank you JI7 May 2012 #42
That might be the single most frightening thing hifiguy May 2012 #46
In my college days, the word was "awesomestupid" JHB May 2012 #49
Thank God he didn't mention that the earth was flat. fasttense May 2012 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2012 #2
What a charming reply. Thank you ever so for correcting me. nolabear May 2012 #12
Thanks for posting it, I missed it the first time... rfranklin May 2012 #16
I agree. I'll try to get better about that. Thanks. nolabear May 2012 #29
I missed it as well etherealtruth May 2012 #53
I missed it the first time. Wait Wut May 2012 #25
I was entertained DefenseLawyer May 2012 #33
It's actually a 3 year old article Son of Gob May 2012 #32
the "great" state of Texas has earned it's shame. (spoken by a native) northoftheborder May 2012 #3
More like the city of Waco earned it's standard Native Texan pronunciation: kentauros May 2012 #44
Well, it was much more efficient for God to create a reflector rather than another light source.... cbdo2007 May 2012 #4
In that same spirit of simplicity and efficiency, rather than actually existing Warren DeMontague May 2012 #22
actually I would think it to be more efficient for God to exist and to have actually created cbdo2007 May 2012 #27
That is a fascinating opinion Warren DeMontague May 2012 #34
haha, no more meaningless than yours cbdo2007 May 2012 #38
I've yet to meet a theist who wants to have that "debate" and is willing to even define their terms Warren DeMontague May 2012 #39
Thanks, Warren RobertEarl May 2012 #43
And if that definition works for your 12 step program, bully for you. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #55
You must have a lot of time on your hands.... cbdo2007 May 2012 #45
Okay Warren DeMontague May 2012 #52
Good, then we're even. cbdo2007 May 2012 #59
Cool beans! Warren DeMontague May 2012 #63
WHO you calling ridiculous?? nolabear May 2012 #104
"Flinglesnatz no flinglesnatz"? hifiguy May 2012 #47
BLASPHEMY! Warren DeMontague May 2012 #56
I learned a new word. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #64
When I am unable to become acquainted with a particular demographic LanternWaste May 2012 #81
Okay, then, define the term. For purposes of discussion. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #96
I am sure since this article is over three years old Angry Dragon May 2012 #5
Science is Satanic! nt killbotfactory May 2012 #6
Wait till they find out the earth doesn't emit light! Renew Deal May 2012 #7
That part made me think of Mama Bouche from the waterboy. jp11 May 2012 #14
Foosball?!?!?! Iggo May 2012 #78
Brawndo's got what plants crave. DefenseLawyer May 2012 #8
Well, DU did have the "moon bombing" thread. NYC Liberal May 2012 #9
I still can't believe that the GOP was not supportive of Obama's pre-emptive strike on the Moon!! JoePhilly May 2012 #37
Of course. According to Marvel Comics, the Watcher hifiguy May 2012 #48
Oh god. Flashbacks. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #57
Link to my favorite of those threads -- downwardly_mobile May 2012 #101
Oh god... NYC Liberal May 2012 #102
Here's my favorite Moon thread EVAH! neverforget May 2012 #108
Oh, some of the names have changed Warren DeMontague May 2012 #103
Woah! That Guy is Still Around? On the Road May 2012 #11
Yeah, he got started in Seattle. I took my kids to see him once and we talked. nolabear May 2012 #15
I believe his son has taken over the shows though. Lionessa May 2012 #21
Laugh malaise May 2012 #17
"But I'm telling you people - the earth revolves around the sun!!" Initech May 2012 #24
Wacko Tango Foxtrot? Blue Owl May 2012 #28
CAREFUL!! Grins May 2012 #30
It sure is an oldie... redqueen May 2012 #31
And since the Earth is only 4,000 years old, this story is fucking ANCIENT!!!! Warren DeMontague May 2012 #41
No, fundies believe it is only 6,000 years old. n/t RebelOne May 2012 #68
There's no cheese either... crazylikafox May 2012 #40
I am pretty sure that is what Mitt believes siligut May 2012 #51
Confident and loud idiots siligut May 2012 #50
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT May 2012 #54
Absurd. Quantess May 2012 #60
that's not why he was booed hfojvt May 2012 #61
Agree it was a cheap shot that got him boo'd One_Life_To_Give May 2012 #62
Hogwash Major Nikon May 2012 #65
I knew there was more to this story. Thanks. HiPointDem May 2012 #69
Right. Pointing out the bible is wrong about science... SidDithers May 2012 #82
Saying the Bible isn't scientifically accurate is disrespecting it? NickB79 May 2012 #84
Why would you even mention the Bible while discussing science? One_Life_To_Give May 2012 #98
lest ye forget,Waco is home of The Branch Davidiens... you know,David Koresh et al. w8liftinglady May 2012 #66
It's that way pretty much all over Texas Major Nikon May 2012 #72
Again? Iggo May 2012 #67
No. Just rehashing some three-year-old red meat for the atheists. HiPointDem May 2012 #71
Red meat. Beautiful. Iggo May 2012 #74
yep, red meat. here y'all are making fun of people who were offended by nye three years ago. HiPointDem May 2012 #76
Is that what I'm doing? Iggo May 2012 #77
sorry if i mistakenly included you with the eaters of red meat. HiPointDem May 2012 #88
And I'm sorry if you were offended by the carnivores. Iggo May 2012 #91
i'm not offended that easily. i think they're every bit as funny & myth-driven as their HiPointDem May 2012 #92
You win. Iggo May 2012 #95
didn;t realize it was a competition. stay cool as you are. HiPointDem May 2012 #106
Yeah, whatever. Have a nice day. Iggo May 2012 #107
Happened in 2009, not in 2012. And he wasn't booed, and he didn't have trouble because HiPointDem May 2012 #70
The earth is 5000 years old IS NOT a stupid statement???? Logical May 2012 #73
i don't recall that this story had anything to do with that statement. my point is, nye didn't HiPointDem May 2012 #75
Certainly true LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #93
It is science! I would strongly suggest no religious..... Logical May 2012 #99
Here's the quote... Javaman May 2012 #79
the quotes points up the misleading reporting in the op. several people storming out doesn't equal HiPointDem May 2012 #85
Since fundamentalists are trying to repackage creationism as intelligent design Justpat May 2012 #100
some fundamentalists are. others aren't. the ones who are are often working for big-money HiPointDem May 2012 #105
He also pointed out that the sun is just another star LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #94
The bible is false... SidDithers May 2012 #83
These residents of Dumbfuckistan should be asked a simple question: hifiguy May 2012 #80
In the 1950's, the church would say "shut up and sit down". Dawson Leery May 2012 #87
Again, another reason why America is falling behind. Dawson Leery May 2012 #86
And if he'd said the moon was made of swiss cheese he would have been booed. aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #89
No! Please tell me this isn't so. JDPriestly May 2012 #90
They're just mad because they have to SomethingFishy May 2012 #97
 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
1. Not even a tad bit of the article. Just a link? Well, here I'll do it for you.
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:11 PM
May 2012
Bill Nye, the harmless children's edu-tainer known as "The Science Guy," managed to offend a select group of adults in Waco, Texas at a presentation, when he suggested that the moon does not emit light, but instead reflects the light of the sun.

As even most elementary-school graduates know, the moon reflects the light of the sun but produces no light of its own.

But don't tell that to the good people of Waco, who were "visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence," according to the Waco Tribune.

Nye was in town to participate in McLennan Community College's Distinguished Lecture Series. He gave two lectures on such unfunny and adult topics as global warming, Mars exploration, and energy consumption.


I think we are in some pretty serious and scary times when ignorance is revered.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. The bible sez that "god made two lights", so since the bible is ALWAYS RIGHT
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:35 PM
May 2012

That means the moon shines of its own luminescence, not reflected sunlight.




...well, you asked.

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
23. Uh. Ok.
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

Oh jeez are we in trouble. Apparently, both those lights are exactly the same. You can't have one incandescent and one carbon filament I guess.

Throckmorton

(3,579 posts)
26. "Two Lights", is a great State Park just south of Portland Maine.
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:46 PM
May 2012

Former costal defense battery, and a great place to picnic.

It is not anywhere near Waco.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
19. Stated clearly, they have reverence for ignorance. They are proud and righteous about their general
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:35 PM
May 2012

as well as much of their specific ignorance.

IGNORANCE is their deity these days.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
36. Welcome to Texas, Bill.
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:50 PM
May 2012

Any hint of intellect, education, or just common sense automatically makes you suspect in the land of Big Hair.

"Everything I need to know I get from what somebody told me the Bible says".

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
46. That might be the single most frightening thing
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:32 PM
May 2012

I have ever read.

How can people that hopelessly fucking stupignorant (a neologism combining the word "stupid" and the term "pig ignorant&quot be trusted to tie their own shoes much less drive a car, reproduce or vote.

We are done as a society.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
58. Thank God he didn't mention that the earth was flat.
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:55 AM
May 2012

They might have had a stampede if he'd mentioned that fact too.

(You know the bible says there are 4 corners to the earth.)

Response to nolabear (Original post)

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
12. What a charming reply. Thank you ever so for correcting me.
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:22 PM
May 2012

That's what I come to DU for, to post something I find interesting and have it shot down by someone with an attitude. Sure does make me feel like DU is a good place to talk about things I find interesting, it does.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
16. Thanks for posting it, I missed it the first time...
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:32 PM
May 2012

but it would be helpful to post 2-3 paragraphs of the story as well as the date if it's not fresh.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
53. I missed it as well
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:43 PM
May 2012

I don't know exactly what the other poster said ... but, try to remember, communication on a message board can be very imperfect and sometimes a seemingly rude response wasn't posted to be rude, but rather to inform ... of course other times some are just jack-a$$es

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
25. I missed it the first time.
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:42 PM
May 2012

Glad you reposted...I think. Yep. I think I may just cry. Totally thought the moon was a big glass ball full of fireflies.

Edit 'cause spelling is just as scary as science.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
33. I was entertained
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:15 PM
May 2012

but then again I am from Indiana, so being two years behind is pretty normal for me.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
32. It's actually a 3 year old article
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:11 PM
May 2012

and the link from the article shows that this story happened 6 years ago.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
4. Well, it was much more efficient for God to create a reflector rather than another light source....
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:15 PM
May 2012

also an additional light source this close to the Earth would be probably burn us all up.

I digress though...Really they're both correct because the Bible doesn't specify that both light sources are emitters, only that there are two sources of light, which a reflector is.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. In that same spirit of simplicity and efficiency, rather than actually existing
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

It took far less energy for god to be created as a figment of man's imagination, than for "him" to have to actually put in the time and effort to be real.

Well, as they say, "just a theory!"

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
27. actually I would think it to be more efficient for God to exist and to have actually created
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:48 PM
May 2012

everything than for everything to just exist randomly with no plan. I would think "efficiency" would have to include some type of goal or defined outcome. Otherwise efficiency is irrelevant.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
38. haha, no more meaningless than yours
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:19 PM
May 2012

Unless either of us has some facts regarding any of the god vs non-god debate, it's just two dumbasses arguing about nothing.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. I've yet to meet a theist who wants to have that "debate" and is willing to even define their terms
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:26 PM
May 2012

As in, fine, first define the word "god". Otherwise you might as well be opining about the "flinglesnatz vs. no flinglesnatz debate", as if it is a logical, either/or premise.

As it is, you were the one who attempted to introduce the concept of "efficiency" into this, ah, discussion (a discussion about as logical, serious, and evidence-based as the 'debate' over whether leprechauns wear boxers or briefs) ...presumably you mean energy efficiency, although why an entity such as "god" would be interested in or even worried about energy efficiency, I suppose is yet another open question...

...frankly, from where I sit, it looks like yet another in a long line of attempts to retroactively "explain" the unscientific, flat out goofy and factually ridiculous gibberish contained in the Bible.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
43. Thanks, Warren
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:09 PM
May 2012

We shall use this as an opportunity to pass on the message from my God friend....

My name God, as it is written: G O D

Comes from the efficient use of the following:

Generation
Organization of
Dirt

We are dirt, we are generated from dirt and we are organized dirt.

GOD means: the force that turns an acorn from dirt into an Oak tree.
You probably knew all that, as smart as you are, but hey, always glad to help folks think.

Now don't go jumping in my shit, all the before comes from GOD.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
55. And if that definition works for your 12 step program, bully for you.
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:45 PM
May 2012

Nevertheless, the "force" that turns an acorn from dirt into an oak tree, is life, as expressed through DNA, proteins, and the amazing cellulose-enclosed cellular machinery of plants.

You will note that no amount of observation has ever witnessed dirt and dirt alone magically turning into a tree. Similarly, all manner of stuff has been attributed to magic and magical explanations over the years, only to discern that they are explainable by natural phenomena, logic, rational evidence-based processes, and science.

Now you are certainly free to call natural phenomena, logic, rational evidence-based processes and science "God" or "Generation Dirt" or whatever, but if you're attributing a mystical, magical, supernatural force to it, you either need to show some evidence for the magic force, or accept that yours is another in a very long line of interesting religious speculations that belong in the realm of faith, magic, unicorns and wee folk, and not in the realm of logic or scientific debate.

Find the hard evidence, of course, and that changes.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
45. You must have a lot of time on your hands....
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:30 PM
May 2012

to take my posts with any sort of seriousness, especially on a topic as ridiculous as the OP here.

Good luck to you in whatever your goal is.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
104. WHO you calling ridiculous??
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:12 PM
May 2012

Geez, posting around here is like leaving a lamb with a wolf pack. Its ass is gonna get chewed no matter how innocent it is.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
47. "Flinglesnatz no flinglesnatz"?
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:35 PM
May 2012

Dammit, the CORRECT question is whether there's a VEEBLEFETZER or not.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
56. BLASPHEMY!
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:46 PM
May 2012

For 1000 years the followers of the holy finglesnatz have attempted to smite the veeblefetzer infidels.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
64. I learned a new word.
Wed May 2, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

And I learned from this thread that there are people in this country who are dumber than I ever imagined.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
81. When I am unable to become acquainted with a particular demographic
Thu May 3, 2012, 02:44 PM
May 2012

"I've yet to meet a theist who wants to have that "debate" and is willing to even define their terms"

When I am unable to become acquainted with a particular demographic, I usually lay the blame with myself rather than the demographic itself. More often than not, it's usually for just one reason-- I didn't really try, but it makes for a good bumper-sticker.

However, I'm fully confident that you have indeed attempted to in many ways...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
96. Okay, then, define the term. For purposes of discussion.
Thu May 3, 2012, 04:13 PM
May 2012

I don't mean come up with a cute acronym for the letters in the word, I mean explain the logical underpinnings, the capabilities the limitations of the being, if it is a "being".. explain why that God and not any or all other gods. Are we arguing for the self evidence of the existence of Zeus? Osiris?

What, PRECISELY are we talking about here and why is that word or entity exempt from the very logical underpinnings and constrictions which are placed on reality, i.e. "nothing can exist without god creating it" "okay, what created god"...etc.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
5. I am sure since this article is over three years old
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:15 PM
May 2012

that they all went out and educated themselves to bring themselves up to the knowledge of a fifth grader

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
7. Wait till they find out the earth doesn't emit light!
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:18 PM
May 2012

Last edited Tue May 1, 2012, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)



This is pretty funny too

But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector.

At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
37. I still can't believe that the GOP was not supportive of Obama's pre-emptive strike on the Moon!!
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:52 PM
May 2012

I mean come on!!!

If an alien race was going to send spotters ... they would place them on the moon.

The GOP are a bunch of clowns.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
48. Of course. According to Marvel Comics, the Watcher
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:36 PM
May 2012

has been there for millennia. And that's just as good a source for science as the bible.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
15. Yeah, he got started in Seattle. I took my kids to see him once and we talked.
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:26 PM
May 2012

It was right after his brief stint with a Disney show began. I mentioned that we'd been watching him just that morning on the Disney Channel. His reaction wsa "Wait a minute...I'm not getting a residual for a show shown today. When was it on? I've got to check this out." Made me laugh. It was so NOT The Science Guy.

Grins

(7,212 posts)
30. CAREFUL!!
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:59 PM
May 2012

Look at the dates.

This is not current news, if you open the link the post shows this was posted in Feb of 2009. And, if you look at the link in the article, you will see that the actual story goes back even further, to 2006.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
31. It sure is an oldie...
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:00 PM
May 2012

but no less a goodie.

A truly shameful example of the staggering ignorance of fundies.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
41. And since the Earth is only 4,000 years old, this story is fucking ANCIENT!!!!
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:31 PM
May 2012

Nah, I'm sure there are no anti science creationist goobers in the us today.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
51. I am pretty sure that is what Mitt believes
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:45 PM
May 2012

At least that is what Joseph Smith taught. The Mormons I met believed the moon landing was faked.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
54. HUGE K & R !!!
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:44 PM
May 2012
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias."

- Stephen Colbert, White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, 4/29/2006



hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
61. that's not why he was booed
Wed May 2, 2012, 01:17 PM
May 2012

he was booed because he apparently could not discuss science without disrespecting the Bible. He's supposed to be Bill Nye, the Science guy, not Bill Nye, the Bible debunking guy. Just the facts man, just the facts. Leave your lack of religion out of it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
65. Hogwash
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:14 PM
May 2012

First of all, he wasn't booed in the first place. Some people left. That's it.

Next, there was no disrespect to anyone, unless you're a flat earther who has zero use for real science and believe the bible is a fax from god that can't possibly be refuted. Naturally in a place like Waco, Bill Nye managed to find a few of those. All he did was quote the bible verse as a reference to how people thought about the moon in biblical times vs how your typical 3rd grader knows better. That is all.

Here's the account from the reporter who originally reported the story several years ago...

http://www.examiner.com/article/reporter-of-bill-nye-moonbat-story-speaks

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
84. Saying the Bible isn't scientifically accurate is disrespecting it?
Thu May 3, 2012, 02:53 PM
May 2012

What kind of ridiculous crap logic is that?

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
98. Why would you even mention the Bible while discussing science?
Thu May 3, 2012, 05:25 PM
May 2012

I don't see a good reason to mention it other than to try and get a few laughs at others expense. Just because we know better and could make sport of others ignorance. Doesn't make doing so right.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
72. It's that way pretty much all over Texas
Thu May 3, 2012, 08:16 AM
May 2012

You notice it more when you get outside the big cities, but there's no shortage of fundies in Texas that have a complete disconnect from anything most people would call reality.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
71. No. Just rehashing some three-year-old red meat for the atheists.
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:18 PM
May 2012

How Woods characterized the audience reaction, and others characterized his characterization, would cause blog swarm. And how others characterized the characterizatons of those characterizing his characterizations later (including yours truly) would cause the story to explode again, three years later.


http://www.examiner.com/article/reporter-of-bill-nye-moonbat-story-speaks


Cause they are so dedicated to scientific method they always check their facts & sources.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
76. yep, red meat. here y'all are making fun of people who were offended by nye three years ago.
Thu May 3, 2012, 02:21 PM
May 2012

the story (which isn't honestly reported) appeals to prejudice. fundies are illiterate morons, etc.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
77. Is that what I'm doing?
Thu May 3, 2012, 02:29 PM
May 2012

I thought I was having fun with people who didn't realize this is a 3+ year old story.

Thanks for setting me straight.


 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
92. i'm not offended that easily. i think they're every bit as funny & myth-driven as their
Thu May 3, 2012, 03:21 PM
May 2012

targets are, that's all. and every bit as liable to witch hunt.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
70. Happened in 2009, not in 2012. And he wasn't booed, and he didn't have trouble because
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:15 PM
May 2012

he said the moon reflects the sun, he had trouble because *he* brought the bible into it; his aim was to show that the bible was false. *That* was what people took exception to.

And now here we are, using a three-year old somewhat distorted story to show how "stupid" religious people are & 99% in the thread are fully on-board with it.

Not much difference between the fundies & DUers to my mind.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
75. i don't recall that this story had anything to do with that statement. my point is, nye didn't
Thu May 3, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012

have to bring the bible into his talk. i'm from the seattle area where he got his start, & his schtick had nothing to do with the bible. people who bought tickets to see him didn't come expecting an anti-bible talk.

nye chose to go there & some people were offended. they weren't offended because he said the moon reflects the son, they were offended because he decided to highlight how that fact contradicts the bible. it was gratuitous, intended to poke religious people in the eye. it's disingenuous to poke people & then go whining about how they yelped. also dishonest to say it was about the science.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
93. Certainly true
Thu May 3, 2012, 03:24 PM
May 2012

In the same state that's cut Planned Parenthood funding for religious reasons, and in the same city that was home to the Branch Davidians, it's certainly much better to pander to their delusions lest they get offended and leave. Because, you know, teaching scientific fact that might make them question those delusions before they hurt somebody is offensive and dishonest.

And somehow, the fact that we agree with this puts us on a par with fundies that do things like, say, cut funding to Planned Parenthood because of their religious beliefs.

*headdesk*



 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
99. It is science! I would strongly suggest no religious.....
Thu May 3, 2012, 05:31 PM
May 2012

Person go hear a scientist talk if they are offended easily. The two topics do not mix!!!!

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
79. Here's the quote...
Thu May 3, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

"But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector.

At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected."

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he was pointing out the conflicting and completely wrong concept as proposed by the bible. Granted, one should know their audience when making a presentation on a particular subject, but that doesn't mean he should censor himself either.

The woman yelling "we believe in God" only underlines the fallacy of the bible's assertion that there is another "light" at night.

I live in Texas and run into various types of fundies from time to time and yes, I have had people tell me that the sun revolves around the earth.

Sometimes they need a to be told things with a verbal hammer.

I will now step slowly away from the the computer and make no other comment.

Feel free.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
85. the quotes points up the misleading reporting in the op. several people storming out doesn't equal
Thu May 3, 2012, 03:03 PM
May 2012

the audience booing. and the people storming out would have stayed had nye simply chosen to say that the moon reflects the sun's light without tweaking their noses about the bible.

i'll leave the discussants on this thread to continue the ritual attack on those who walked out. Even if it was three years ago, even if it was just "several," and even if it was more because nye tweaked them on the bible rather than any belief that the moon has it's own light.

why get in the way of a good public witch-bashing?

Justpat

(3,567 posts)
100. Since fundamentalists are trying to repackage creationism as intelligent design
Thu May 3, 2012, 05:51 PM
May 2012

and have it taught in schools in science classes, I would say Mr. Nye had every
right to poke the religious types in the eye.

If more scientists did more poking it would be a good thing.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
105. some fundamentalists are. others aren't. the ones who are are often working for big-money
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:16 PM
May 2012

actors.

poking people in the eye generally makes things worse, not better.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
94. He also pointed out that the sun is just another star
Thu May 3, 2012, 03:28 PM
May 2012

which wasn't mentioned in this blog but was in the original story.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100110212547/http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/04/06/04062006wacbillnye.html?

"The Emmy-winning scientist angered a few audience members when he criticized literal interpretation of the biblical verse Genesis 1:16, which reads: “God made two great lights - the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.”

He pointed out that the sun, the “greater light,” is but one of countless stars and that the “lesser light” is the moon, which really is not a light at all, rather a reflector of light.

A number of audience members left the room at that point, visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence.

“We believe in a God!” exclaimed one woman as she left the room with three young children."

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
80. These residents of Dumbfuckistan should be asked a simple question:
Thu May 3, 2012, 02:39 PM
May 2012

How is that light generated? AFAIK, there are two ways to generate light - chemical (think bioluminescence) and thermonuclear processes such as fusion (i.e., the sun) and fission (happy old Mr. A-bomb). Were the moon to produce light thermally, the astronauts who landed thereon would have been instantly incinerated down to an atomic level. Were there a chemical process, evidence of said chemicals would have almost certainly have turned up in the hundreds of pounds of moon rocks brought back to Earth, which they most assuredly did not.

These dumbasses are so stupignorant, scientifically and otherwise, it's a small miracle that they can tie shoes or work zippers correctly.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
87. In the 1950's, the church would say "shut up and sit down".
Thu May 3, 2012, 03:08 PM
May 2012

In the 1650's, the church would burn you at the stake.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
89. And if he'd said the moon was made of swiss cheese he would have been booed.
Thu May 3, 2012, 03:09 PM
May 2012

Every red-blooded Murkin knows it's made of 100% Murkin cheese.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
90. No! Please tell me this isn't so.
Thu May 3, 2012, 03:15 PM
May 2012

Couldn't somebody start a reality show that embarrasses people who are totally, completely and stubbornly ignorant?

There would be lots and lots of subjects. Texas and Alabama are nice in the winter by the way.

And you could start with really simple stuff like this moon thing or how oil was "created" and why it is, therefore, not available in endless supply. (The real story.)

This is to cry.

I consider myself pretty ignorant when it comes to science. There is so much to learn, but . . . . . . .

This is where the reality show industry could really do society a service.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
97. They're just mad because they have to
Thu May 3, 2012, 04:51 PM
May 2012

change the "moon lamp" to a more expensive LED bulb. It's Obama's fault.

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