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Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:17 PM

 

President Obama OBLITERATES Any Republican Hopes That Keystone XL Will Be Approved






President Obama appeared to crush all Republican hope that Keystone XL will ever be approved while he is president during a town hall in South Carolina.



Transcript:

THE PRESIDENT: Well, for those of you who havenít been following this, the Keystone pipeline is a proposed pipeline that runs from Canada through the United States down to the Gulf of Mexico. Its proponents argue that it would be creating jobs in the United States. But the truth is itís Canadian oil thatís then going to go to the world market. It will probably create about a couple thousand construction jobs for a year or two, but only create about 300 permanent jobs.


The reason that a lot of environmentalists are concerned about it is the way that you get the oil out in Canada is an extraordinarily dirty way of extracting oil. And obviously, there are always risks in piping a lot of oil through Nebraska farmland and other parts of the country.


What weíve done is I vetoed it because the Congress was trying to short-circuit a traditional process that we go through. I havenít made a final determination on it, but what Iíve said is, is that weíre not going to authorize a pipeline that benefits largely a foreign company if it canít be shown that it is safe and if it canít be shown that overall it would not contribute to climate change.
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And you might think, well, you know, getting warmer, thatís no big deal ó folks in South Carolina, weíre used to dealing with hot weather; we can manage. But understand that when you start having overall global temperatures go up, even if it means more snow in some places, or more rain in some places ó itís not going to be hotter in every single place, but the overall temperature is going up ó that starts changing weather patterns across the globe. It starts raising ocean levels. It starts creating more drought and wildfires in some places.


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Those do not sound like the remarks of a president who is inclined to approve Keystone XL. In fact every time the president has spoken about Keystone, he states that he has not made a final decision, but he makes the exact argument that opponents of the pipeline use. It is easy to see that there is virtually no chance that Keystone XL will be approved while Barack Obama is president. The president is not giving Republicans a shred of hope. It is obvious that he doesnít support the pipeline, and his remarks were a destruction of the Republican hope that Keystone will ever be approved.




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http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03/06/president-obama-obliterates-republican-hopes-keystone-xl-approved.html

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Reply President Obama OBLITERATES Any Republican Hopes That Keystone XL Will Be Approved (Original post)
Segami Mar 2015 OP
1000words Mar 2015 #1
Scuba Mar 2015 #42
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #52
Scuba Mar 2015 #53
Rex Mar 2015 #2
Segami Mar 2015 #5
Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #8
sheshe2 Mar 2015 #15
Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #41
Rex Mar 2015 #11
SomeGuyInEagan Mar 2015 #23
sheshe2 Mar 2015 #6
Rex Mar 2015 #12
sheshe2 Mar 2015 #14
Rex Mar 2015 #37
malaise Mar 2015 #40
Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #3
Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #4
sheshe2 Mar 2015 #9
Cha Mar 2015 #7
Kath1 Mar 2015 #28
Cha Mar 2015 #30
Kath1 Mar 2015 #31
Cha Mar 2015 #34
Kath1 Mar 2015 #35
sheshe2 Mar 2015 #10
former9thward Mar 2015 #13
A Simple Game Mar 2015 #25
Segami Mar 2015 #44
sendero Mar 2015 #26
former9thward Mar 2015 #36
sendero Mar 2015 #43
former9thward Mar 2015 #47
sendero Mar 2015 #48
sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #16
MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #17
Enrique Mar 2015 #45
MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #46
craigmatic Mar 2015 #18
George II Mar 2015 #19
Segami Mar 2015 #20
RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #29
George II Mar 2015 #32
OldRedneck Mar 2015 #21
Geronimoe Mar 2015 #22
Hulk Mar 2015 #24
DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #27
George II Mar 2015 #33
DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #38
madville Mar 2015 #39
greatlaurel Mar 2015 #49
calimary Mar 2015 #50
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #51

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Response to 1000words (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 07:20 AM

42. Meanwhile ...

 

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/20/3254081/pipelines-you-havent-heard-of/

While America Spars Over Keystone XL, A Vast Network Of Pipelines Is Quietly Being Approved

But while critics and proponents of Keystone XL have sparred over the last few years, numerous pipelines ó many of them slated to carry the same Canadian tar sands crude as Keystone ó have been proposed, permitted, and even seen construction begin in the U.S. and Canada. Some rival Keystone XL in size and capacity; others, when linked up with existing and planned pipelines, would carry more oil than the 1,179-mile pipeline.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #42)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:19 PM

52. Dude, that's depressing.

Here I was feeling upbeat about some positive environmental news, and now I feel like Keystone has largely been kept in the public eye so that we weren't all out protesting all of those other pipelines.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #52)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:30 PM

53. A red herring.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:21 PM

2. Excuse me...I just want to say a little something about that...

 

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Rope a dope! Rope a dope!




And the sad clown sings;

"Killing me softly with his song...killing me softly with his words"

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:32 PM

5. LOL!

 



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Response to Segami (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:43 PM

8. omg that's the funniest thing ive seen in a while

 

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Response to Romeo.lima333 (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:58 PM

15. Romeo!

Welcome to DU~



Enjoy!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 07:19 AM

41. thanks sheshe2

 

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Response to Segami (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:45 PM

11. LMAO!!!

 

Okay must find GIF now...must stop laughing first.

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Response to Segami (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:26 PM

23. It's all about context:

"Minnesota unveils 'Dramatic Gopher' vs. Wisconsin

By now, youíve probably seen one of the many ďDramatic GopherĒ YouTube videos. Only a few seconds long, the brilliant set of videos has millions and millions of views. Its popularity should only increase after the Wisconsin-Minnesota game on Saturday. Thatís because Minnesota used the little guy, twice, to taunt Wisconsin kicker Jack Russell."


http://btn.com/2013/11/25/minnesota-uses-dramatic-gopher-vs-badgers/

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:34 PM

6. ..................................



Thanks for the laugh Rex!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:45 PM

12. Anytime sheshe2!

 

Glad I could make you laugh!

EDIT - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6324099

This one might give you a laugh as well.

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Response to Rex (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:57 PM

14. Thanks~

I left you a laugh as well.



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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 12:13 AM

37. LMAO!!!

 



That is what he should have said at the SOTU to the GOP! "I won both times...deal with it!"

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:19 AM

40. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Priceless

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:21 PM

3. Thank you. President Obama's words are being drowned out by the carnival barkers.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:22 PM

4. What the fawk!!! Obama needs to stop listening to scientists about global warming....

 

Instead, he needs to pay attention to the senator who hurled a snowball on the Senate floor.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:43 PM

9. He sure got hit back on that one Cali!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:37 PM

7. Good! He's said it again in South Carolina.. Meanwhile Canadian & US celebs and Environmentalists

are urging the President to reject it once and for all!



mahalo Segami

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 10:07 PM

28. Excellent!

And very nice that there is some celebrity pressure there to give this issue the visibility it needs.

Ms. Hannah has been a force for this all along and I love her for it.

The LAST thing this country needs is filthy, poison tar sands oil!

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Response to Kath1 (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 10:35 PM

30. Was that not, Kath! Great, somebody actually saw this and watched it.. I might have known it

would be you, Kath, on Keystone! I found it accidently..

Yes, Daryl Hannah has been wonderful.. I like Emily Van Camp and was glad to see her in the Vid as well.. she's from Canada.

And, Clint Eastwood's daughter with her mother Frances Fisher.. lol

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Response to Cha (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:13 PM

31. Keystone XL was a very bad idea from the outset.

So glad to see the President slamming the door shut on it.

Daryl Hannah deserves our thanks for putting her celeb power behing the anti-Keystone movement and educating people about it.

Clint Eastwood's daughter - very cool of her to be in the video.

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Response to Kath1 (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:47 PM

34. And, one can see visually in the Vid exactly Why it's a "very bad idea from the outset"!!

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Response to Cha (Reply #34)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:59 PM

35. Indeed.

Horrible images. Just sickening.

Republicans do not care about the environment or people. Just corporate profits.

Shame on them.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:44 PM

10. KnR

Thanks Segami.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:53 PM

13. It isn't just Republicans who want Keystone apporved.

AFL-CIO urges approval of Keystone XL pipeline

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka urged the new Republican-controlled Congress and the White House to get together and approve the controversial, long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline project, saying it would boost the economy.

"There are a number of economic issues and job issues that we want them to get done. That happens to be one of them. So the answer is 'yes.' We want to get every jobs issue that we can out and as many jobs created as we can to get the economy going," Trumka said in response to a question about the pipeline during a post-election press conference Wednesday.

It was the firmest statement on the subject that Trumka has made. The AFL-CIO has voiced qualified support for the project in the past but stopped short a full endorsement. Last year, for example, the labor coalition issued a statement supporting pipeline projects in general but did not specifically mention Keystone.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/afl-cio-urges-approval-of-keystone-xl-pipeline/article/2555805

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Response to former9thward (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:53 PM

25. If Trumka really wants a jobs program he should say lets take the money

Trans Canada was going to use to build the pipeline and use it to upgrade our rail system, maybe we could kick in some ourselves. That way it will benefit America and not just a foreign company. Win-win no pipeline and a better rail system with just as many if not more temporary jobs.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #25)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 08:42 AM

44. Lets not forget the countless jobs..

 

workprogram the nation as a whole could benefit from rebuilding a crumbling transportation sector that could put a slew of Americans workers back to work repairing and modernizing our roads, bridges, railways, and transit systems.


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Response to former9thward (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:57 PM

26. Well now I know...

... that Trumka is a stone fool.

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Response to sendero (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 12:10 AM

36. Except when he is supporting Democratic candidates.

Then he is a really intelligent guy, right?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #36)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 08:19 AM

43. He's doing this...

... because, like supporting Democratic candidates, he thinks it is in his interest. The problem is this pipeline is in very few Americans' interest. The handful of permanent jobs it will create, along with the more numerous but very temporary construction jobs, is scant payment for decades of risk.

Let Canada figure out how to move their own #$%^% oil.

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Response to sendero (Reply #43)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 09:41 AM

47. I wonder what you think of the hudreds of other pipelines

which cross the U.S.?



And one more is the end of the world?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #47)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 10:18 AM

48. I don't think..

.... they were built exclusively for Canadian tar sands. There is no compelling American interest in play here.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:13 PM

16. It could change with the debt limit

discussions. I heard that this cannot be vetoed, perhaps just
a rumor. And the Repuglies will insist on their flesh of meat
for the agreement to raise the limit.

If he cannot veto it, it will be up to the Senate, and I am not sure
that all the Dems are willing to stop it.

Just my fears, because I refuse to underestimate the other side.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:15 PM

17. If "obliterate" is in the headline, 1. it's politicususa, therefore

 

2. the odds are that it's BS.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 09:16 AM

45. same with "eviscerate"

politicususa is ridiculous.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #45)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 09:17 AM

46. And DESTROYS

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:26 PM

18. Obliterates is a strong word if anything he's just postponed this from happening.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:39 PM

19. Ummmmm.....

"Those do not sound like the remarks of a president who is inclined to approve Keystone XL. In fact every time the president has spoken about Keystone, he states that he has not made a final decision, but he makes the exact argument that opponents of the pipeline use."

He vetoed it, but you say he "has not made a final decision?

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Response to George II (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:54 PM

20. The president...

 

...every time 'has spoken about Keystone'.........





The Senate on Wednesday failed to override President Barack Obama's veto of a bill to construct the Keystone XL pipeline, the first of many confrontations between the Republican-controlled Congress and the White House this year over energy policy.


"If we don't win the battle today, we will win the war because we will find another bill to attach this pipeline to," said Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., the chief sponsor of the bill, before the vote.


- But two Democrats, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island and Sen. Edward Markey of Massachusetts, said at a news conference after the vote that further attempts to pass the project would be futile, especially given the failed attempt to overturn Obama's immigration policies using a bill to fund the Department of Homeland Security.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/senate-fails-override-obamas-veto-pipeline-bill-29389611

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Response to George II (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 10:17 PM

29. Oh no! Not this again!

You obviously don't understand what the President actually vetoed. Hint: it wasn't the pipeline.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:26 PM

32. Two excerpts from what Obama said (wading through the rhetoric).....

"I vetoed it"

"what Iíve said is, is that weíre not going to authorize a pipeline that benefits largely a foreign company"

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:09 PM

21. His comments on global climate change...

 

His comments on global climate change are
a direct slam on the GOP climate change
deniers -- good for him!!!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:17 PM

22. Standing ovation on hold

 

Until and if he ever rejects the plan that is well known to be game over for the planet.

And we already know other pipelines are in the works to get the oil to TX for export even if XL Keystone is not approved.

Never trust a politician!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:28 PM

24. Was trying to figure out where his "teleprompter" was ?

Isn't that one of the snarky comments we always get from the fox-nonsense dips? As though W never used one.

I have such respect for this President. I almost hate to jump on the biotch wagon on lots of issues where we seem to feel he has fallen flat. I want to hear him respond to those charges before I get pissed.

This man is just too damned smart and educated to be a stooge to anybody. Proud to have voted twice for this man, and would gladly vote twice for his wife to continue the effort!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 10:06 PM

27. That's ok

Hillary will approve it, and use that to smear Obama.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:27 PM

33. Anything to take a gratuitous shot at Hillary Clinton, eh?

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Response to George II (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 12:41 AM

38. Her husband came out for it

and she tactfully said nothing. NOTHING. If she cannot have the courage to tell Bill to SHUT UP once in a while, then frankly, it bodes ill, as there are many good reasons why Bill would need to shut up, Syria and keystone being among them.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #38)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 02:44 AM

39. With the current price of oil

who cares? its just politics now. Hillary will approve it since she set it up initially anyway.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #27)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 10:38 AM

49. Here is a review of the actual record of the Keystone issue at the State Department under HRC.

"The Department of State did not issue a permit for the Keystone XL pipeline while Clinton served as secretary of State. Environmentalists suspected Clinton supported the project and was preparing to award it the administrationís stamp of approval. But that didnít happen before Clinton left the administration and former U.S. Sen. John Kerry was tapped for secretary of State.

In fact, in 2012, Clinton's Department of State recommended President Barack Obama deny the Keystone KL pipeline after Congress set a 60-day deadline for the administration to review the project. However, that decision was rooted in the time constraints and not the merits of the pipeline plan itself.

"The president concurred with the departmentís recommendation, which was predicated on the fact that the Department does not have sufficient time to obtain the information necessary to assess whether the project, in its current state, is in the national interest," the State Department said in January 2012."

Bold text for emphasis.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/CampaignsElections/a/Hillary-Clinton-On-The-Keystone-Xl-Pipeline.htm

Let us not fall for the divide and conquer right wing propaganda.

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Response to greatlaurel (Reply #49)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:44 PM

50. Good find, greatlaurel. Most interesting!

So she fouled it on a technicality. But it's still fouled. So I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth. But it does NOT mean we drop our guard and give her a free pass. We have to hold her to decisions and maneuvers that lean this way in the future. Especially if she wins the White House.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:17 PM

51. If that's true, that's the best news I've heard today. nt

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