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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 02:51 PM Mar 2015

China’s wind farms can now produce more energy than all of America’s nuclear plants

Nukes are a dirty, dangerous fuel from a bygone era. The fact is, without taxpayers subsidies, nukes would never be built in this country. NO NUKES.

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See for comparison: http://www.eia.gov/nuclear/generation/

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leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. Apparently, so can Europe's wind generators. :-)
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 02:56 PM
Mar 2015

Do you have some stats on US nuclear production?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Oh, but how much PROFIT does wind generate, as compared to nuclear?
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 03:04 PM
Mar 2015

That seems to me to be the biggest factor for those who push nuclear.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
4. The vast majority of China's power still comes from coal fired plants
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 03:20 PM
Mar 2015



We're not much different

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. Anyone who believes that nonsense is a plain fool!
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:47 PM
Mar 2015

If that was the case, than places like the Netherlands, which had thousands of windmills all over an area the size of Maryland, it would be jungle. Go there sometime. You will find out that this is not the case, and they now have modern power generating windmills and the temperature barely changes!

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
16. Fool is an understatement when it comes to Smokey Joe
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:27 PM
Mar 2015
http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1997963,00.html

I am just thinking how unfair it is of you to quote their own words. It is a low blow to use what ExxonMobil has actually said against them. I mean, that is kind of a cheap shot, don't you think?

more
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joe_Barton
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Yeah but too many windmills would cause the earth to rotate faster sending us all back into
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

the stone ages!

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
10. No, they can't...
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:39 PM
Mar 2015

because the capacity factor of wind energy averages ~ 25%.

So China might have 120,000 MW of capacity, which would produce approx:

120,000 MW x 24 hours x 365 days x 25% = 262,800,000 MWh = 262.8 TWh


US Nuclear output in 2014, from your source was 723,704,910 MWh = 723.7 TWh


So, US Nuclear produced almost 3x as much electricity as China's wind.

Sid


Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
12. Not sure your graph is right or your conclusion
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:55 PM
Mar 2015

In 2014, the US produced 181,791,000 MWH of wind energy. Over the same time period, nuclear produced 797,067,000.
http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_es1b

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
13. So many confuse capacity with production...
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:57 PM
Mar 2015

some do it unintentionally.

Others do it on purpose.

Sid

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
14. Which is particularly troublesome with wind power
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:10 PM
Mar 2015

When it's the hottest (and demand is the highest) wind tends to blow the least.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
15. No nukes!
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:20 PM
Mar 2015

The northeast is so much better off getting their electricity from shale and natural gas than Vermont Yankee.

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