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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid you see this Greenwald article about the media and Snowden?
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/28912-the-qsnowden-is-ready-to-come-homeq-story-a-case-study-in-typical-media-deceitI think if I were Snowden I would be happy to stay in Russia rather than take my chances in the American Justice System.
US = 93% conviction rate for 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate
MineralMan
(147,196 posts)He can release nothing more. He's done with what he did. Should he be prosecuted? That's not my call to make, but he is no longer relevant to much of anything. I don't care about Snowden. He can stay in Russia or go wherever he wishes to go. It will not matter to me in any significant way, nor to anybody, really. His 15 minutes of fame are over.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I didn't see your name mentioned in brainy quotes.
The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.
Edward Snowden
I think I know who is more irrelevant
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)There really are still occupations that don't require the sacrifice of one's soul.
The Hollow Men
-T.S. Eliot
Mistah Kurtz-he dead
A penny for the Old Guy
I
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar
Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember usif at allnot as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.
II
Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.
Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer
Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom
III
This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.
Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.
IV
The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms
In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river
Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.
V
Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.
Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long
Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)desperate nature of the MSM and how it has taken an old sentiment of Snowden's and through twisting and weaving it into current event status showcases their irrelevancy and ineptitude. Kudos to Greenwald.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)We are ruled now by corporate criminals and fascists pretending to be Republicans and Democrats, who is dismantling the very foundations of our democratic system.
rgbecker
(4,871 posts)Why would anyone remain in cold, cold Moscow rather than spend 20 years in Leavenworth? Everyone know a true patriot would never tolerate living for a minute in a foreign country. And if he is such a hero, why not come home and go on trial? Forget that the judges won't let you explain what you did and why you did it. Everything will be fine.