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Did you see this Greenwald article about the media and Snowden? (Original Post) rgbecker Mar 2015 OP
Snowden is no longer relevant, really. MineralMan Mar 2015 #1
In what universe? Wow. nt grasswire Mar 2015 #2
He still is more relevant than your posts and has more to say to history Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #3
Oh, look. The requisite and predictable Third Way talking point yawn to government tyranny. woo me with science Mar 2015 #5
Interesting article. I think Greenwald is really pointing out the snappyturtle Mar 2015 #4
K&R America has suffered a coup of our democracy itself. woo me with science Mar 2015 #6
I guess those in the MSM want us to think Snowden is crazy. rgbecker Mar 2015 #7

MineralMan

(147,196 posts)
1. Snowden is no longer relevant, really.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 11:46 AM
Mar 2015

He can release nothing more. He's done with what he did. Should he be prosecuted? That's not my call to make, but he is no longer relevant to much of anything. I don't care about Snowden. He can stay in Russia or go wherever he wishes to go. It will not matter to me in any significant way, nor to anybody, really. His 15 minutes of fame are over.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. He still is more relevant than your posts and has more to say to history
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 12:47 PM
Mar 2015

I didn't see your name mentioned in brainy quotes.

The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.
Edward Snowden




I think I know who is more irrelevant

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. Oh, look. The requisite and predictable Third Way talking point yawn to government tyranny.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 01:07 PM
Mar 2015

There really are still occupations that don't require the sacrifice of one's soul.


The Hollow Men
-T.S. Eliot

Mistah Kurtz-he dead
A penny for the Old Guy

I
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us—if at all—not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II
Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer—

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III
This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV
The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V
Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
4. Interesting article. I think Greenwald is really pointing out the
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 12:56 PM
Mar 2015

desperate nature of the MSM and how it has taken an old sentiment of Snowden's and through twisting and weaving it into current event status showcases their irrelevancy and ineptitude. Kudos to Greenwald.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
6. K&R America has suffered a coup of our democracy itself.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 01:11 PM
Mar 2015

We are ruled now by corporate criminals and fascists pretending to be Republicans and Democrats, who is dismantling the very foundations of our democratic system.

rgbecker

(4,871 posts)
7. I guess those in the MSM want us to think Snowden is crazy.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 01:39 PM
Mar 2015

Why would anyone remain in cold, cold Moscow rather than spend 20 years in Leavenworth? Everyone know a true patriot would never tolerate living for a minute in a foreign country. And if he is such a hero, why not come home and go on trial? Forget that the judges won't let you explain what you did and why you did it. Everything will be fine.

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