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That damn 29% pops up everywhere. arcane1 Mar 2015 #1
In one form or another since the Nation was founded. gordianot Mar 2015 #29
Where did they ask this question? Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #2
Klan meeting. Scuba Mar 2015 #10
I'm going to guess people who were home during the day to answer their landlines. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #30
Nonsense.Quinnipiac has been polling too long to restrict the demographics that way. virgogal Mar 2015 #34
29% also approved of the job Shrub did as POTUS. muntrv Mar 2015 #3
Funny how those numbers keep coming back to us... Wounded Bear Mar 2015 #5
The voting public certainly has a voice JonLP24 Mar 2015 #12
Well, votes do matter... Wounded Bear Mar 2015 #24
It affects much more than advertising money JonLP24 Mar 2015 #45
About 30-35% of the population in this country hifiguy Mar 2015 #42
lol. Perfect headline from The Onion dissentient Mar 2015 #4
Who is doing the trusting? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #6
Trusted=popular./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #7
That's also the % Republicans in US MBS Mar 2015 #8
Are you shitting me? JonLP24 Mar 2015 #9
I watch CNN one night every other year yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #16
The last time I watched any of was last summer JonLP24 Mar 2015 #28
Most of the population edhopper Mar 2015 #11
1) 29% +- are stood by Bush after Dawson Leery Mar 2015 #13
And people wonder why we cant have nice things. Initech Mar 2015 #14
They can continue watching their propaganda network Hutzpa Mar 2015 #15
The breakdown is telling. ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2015 #17
Who are these 3% of Democrats who watch Fucked News? Turn in your Dem cards and exit the tent, now. Erose999 Mar 2015 #20
"with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.7 percentage points." ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2015 #22
That still leaves .03%. Names, lets go! Erose999 Mar 2015 #23
That's the base of the GOPee. City Lights Mar 2015 #18
Somewhere moondust Mar 2015 #19
Trusted for promoting right wing bullshit? Yavin4 Mar 2015 #21
I don't even see how they can believe JonLP24 Mar 2015 #36
Dumb people trust dumb media. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #25
PBS for me oldandhappy Mar 2015 #26
They're the Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #27
So, 71% of people trust someone other than Faux News. stopbush Mar 2015 #31
What In Theee F***! What Poll Was This iloveObama12 Mar 2015 #32
I always find it helpful to go to the Sample and Methodology detail to see what's Spazito Mar 2015 #33
The reality is that the marching right know the party line. CincyDem Mar 2015 #35
American Sniper a box-office hit. 3 decades of Moonie News propaganda WORKS. blm Mar 2015 #37
Ask the 1939 German rank and file how they felt about their fearless leader Sheepshank Mar 2015 #38
We are observing a law of normal distribution. immoderate Mar 2015 #39
29%. That's roughly the same percentage of Americans that approved of Bush during the final Downtown Hound Mar 2015 #40
what this means is that the same buffoons who've always liked and followed fox samsingh Mar 2015 #41
i trust some part of MSNBC and comedy central samsingh Mar 2015 #43
was jon stewart in the survery? samsingh Mar 2015 #44
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. That damn 29% pops up everywhere.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 01:54 PM
Mar 2015

gordianot

(15,757 posts)
29. In one form or another since the Nation was founded.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015

Just think 1 of every 3 persons you meet is an ignorant asshole.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
2. Where did they ask this question?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 01:54 PM
Mar 2015

Rush Limbaugh break room?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. Klan meeting.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:14 PM
Mar 2015

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
30. I'm going to guess people who were home during the day to answer their landlines.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:09 PM
Mar 2015

The older unemployed and the retired.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
34. Nonsense.Quinnipiac has been polling too long to restrict the demographics that way.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
3. 29% also approved of the job Shrub did as POTUS.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 01:54 PM
Mar 2015

Wounded Bear

(64,010 posts)
5. Funny how those numbers keep coming back to us...
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 01:56 PM
Mar 2015

somewhere between 25 and 35% of the American populace and voting public are stone cold idiots.

And they're running shit.

JonLP24

(29,883 posts)
12. The voting public certainly has a voice
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:19 PM
Mar 2015

but I think political contributions give a more accurate picture of who is running things or certainly is listened to.

Wounded Bear

(64,010 posts)
24. Well, votes do matter...
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

assuming the Diebold crew haven't completely hacked the process. The big donors just provide advertising money. The problem is that informed voters stay home while misinformed voters get their idiots elected. The current congressional 'majorities' were elected by about 17% of the actual voting population. That's why turnout is so critical.

JonLP24

(29,883 posts)
45. It affects much more than advertising money
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:52 PM
Mar 2015

op Senate Recipients Funded

Recipient Amount
Mitch McConnell $248,259
John Cornyn $184,809
Lisa Murkowski $126,850
Orrin G. Hatch $126,600
John Barrasso $101,000
Ted Cruz $99,500
Rob Portman $90,750
Cory Gardner $81,707
David Vitter $78,950
Roy Blunt $78,050

http://maplight.org/us-congress/interest/E1110

An internal GOP memo was leaked over a decade ago I believe similarly saying deny global warming & recruit scientists sympathetic to their POV which should alone put global warming denial to bed so it started with basically calling it nonsense to "it isn't man made", Palin actually answered yes and didn't stumble when asked that in the Couric interview. In Alaska, you can easily measure the methane coming from the ground but when she was asked the VP debate after her handlers coached & trained her stumbled on the man made question, hit a wall but managed a no out of it all. It was so absurd, the whole transition.

Recently it evolved to "I'm not a scientist" though there were was a ridiculous Senate vote over whether global warming is fact or fiction which some of the Republicans I suspect as to smarter than that still either pretended to or officially believe it to be a hoax. I'd mention Inhofe bringing in the snowball but he likely believes that it isn't real & also factoring in Bernie Sanders conceding him as an idiot.

When Sanders was a guest on Real Time, Bill Maher mentioned the global warming rhetoric indicates they're idiots which Sanders quickly countered that they are very smart referenced the big money contributions which has affected both the parties and when Maher said, "What about Inhofe" Sanders said, "He is a very nice man who believes what he says" Maher than said, the Republican party "a coalition of the greedy cynical & the truly stupid" which sums it up perfectly.

Regarding why they do all this, it is so obvious as to why. It threatens a penny the oil & gas industry won't make because of potential public support for regulations to cut back on the factual truth that the oil & gas industry is the primary source of the emissions. Everything from producing it, storing it, transporting it all of it releases the emissions.

I think overall Republicans receive either 82% or 88% of the overall contributions from oil & gas.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
42. About 30-35% of the population in this country
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:47 PM
Mar 2015

have ALWAYS been morons who can barely figure out each morning which shoe goes on which foot. Someone has to fill up the bottom part of the bell curve distribution. And it's Faux zombies who have the critical thinking skills of lower plant life and fungi.

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
4. lol. Perfect headline from The Onion
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 01:55 PM
Mar 2015

It just shows how many dumbos are out there who have been totally brain washed by Fox news.

God help this country.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
6. Who is doing the trusting?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:08 PM
Mar 2015

Oh, yeah, the FoxBots that sit around all day with their noses pressed against the screen.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,708 posts)
7. Trusted=popular./NT
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:09 PM
Mar 2015

MBS

(9,688 posts)
8. That's also the % Republicans in US
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:10 PM
Mar 2015

No less appalling, though -
No wonder so many people are so unhinged from reality.

JonLP24

(29,883 posts)
9. Are you shitting me?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:12 PM
Mar 2015

I have long had this certain gut prediction that human civilization is basically heading in this direction to best explain it, greedy sociopaths, while humanitarians & populists are stamped out & the end result isn't pretty & I basically see it as practically impossible to stop it since they can figure out some tricks & schemes to deal with shit that gets in their to achieve to popular support of their eventual oppression.

I don't really know enough about the others or don't follow their reporting much if at all. I don't trust Fox & MSNBC regarding personnel changes or like when they fired Phil Donahue MSNBC always slides into untrustworthy ways. It was pretty good for brief period with editorial shows at night & the CNN style reporting in the daytime. But one of the last few times watching MSNBC where one of the anchors basically said let's hear Kerry defend himself this or something. Basically kept slipping one way after the brief period they show judgment it letting talent go or hiring the talent for something such as Meet the Press. CNBC, not even wort6h mentioning how untrustworthy they are. CNN, eh. Like all 24/7 they sell the battle more than inform. So much history could be referenced to discredit Republicans. Truman thought trickle-down economics was discredited because of the great depression. He urged business to urge the vices of monopoly, they can explain very truthfully why it happens & while is bad for the overall economy given that it depresses spending or at-the-time, it was well known under consumption doomed the great depression after it occurred.

The roaring 20s followed by the Great Depression a number of recessions ah I give up.

However this just tells me it is even worse than I thought and bad estimate of where we are heading & what we are facing to stop it.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
16. I watch CNN one night every other year
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:39 PM
Mar 2015

I find their election coverage decent. Yes even Wolf Blitzer. The rest of the news is DU. I occasionally watch ABC World News with David Muir if I am not busy. At most once a week.

JonLP24

(29,883 posts)
28. The last time I watched any of was last summer
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015

I remember ISIS & Ebola there was a lot of reporting of Ferguson protests which the media which focused on how long they have been continuously occurring, still out there at 3am but very little as to why. At first references to a shooting but no reporting during the brief times I did catch coverage as to what the specific details are.

MSNBC during the mid to late 2000s era, had CNN style reported all day before the Keith Olbermann or the Hardball which I never watched. I recall reporting that I only vaguely recall the details which mentioned (which I view a lot of inside knowledge reporting with skepticism) jealously on the part of Chris Matthews regarding MSNBC primarily interested in Donahue's show, I don't know if he played a part in getting him fired but they canned him simply because he was anti-war voice, he also had the highest rated show so that reeks of un-trustworthiness.

Out of the 3, CNN I view as more trustworthy, they need to can Don Lemon if they haven't already. He was the worst guy in CNN to send to do field reporting in Fergeuson. Or following the grand jury decision he opened up with some "tough love" which included pulling up your pants like blaming the victim for the discrimination.

I will say, Larry King in the first time I ever seen him interviewed who I value if he says something as likely to be true when he had nothing bad to say about CNN, said no if he ever noticed a direction in bias, said no. Mentioned, very favorably of Turner calling him the "greatest guy I ever worked with" said no one ever told him to "lets go get this guy" or "back off" on this one. Larry King alone improved CNN's stock in my eyes a great deal in that one interview.

Pay no attention to the title of the video that isn't close to what he really said. The interview mentioned the opinion style journalists which she considers herself to be one -- Larry King simply said that isn't the way he operated mentioning he never "brought his opinion" to the air. He didn't say they aren't journalists or Greenwald isn't one though he was the example to highlight the discussion. He just mentions he came from a different era but he says he doesn't knock it, that he "loves the business", it is what it is, & that there are so many choices out there. But my favorite quote during the whole interview is "I never learned anything when I said something". In another rare Larry King being interviewed on the same network he referenced when people used to guess if Conkrite was a liberal or conservative because you really couldn't tell which was the era of journalism he came from.


edhopper

(37,180 posts)
11. Most of the population
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:16 PM
Mar 2015

Are skeptical and this reflects that.
But Faux watchers need to believe they get the truth (though we know they are less informed than anyone).
To say otherwise would be sacrilege.

Dawson Leery

(19,548 posts)
13. 1) 29% +- are stood by Bush after
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:27 PM
Mar 2015

he ravaged Iraq, the reputation of the United States, and the global economy
2)RT is more trustworthy than Fox in any occasion.

Initech

(108,018 posts)
14. And people wonder why we cant have nice things.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:30 PM
Mar 2015

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
15. They can continue watching their propaganda network
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:36 PM
Mar 2015

as long as the news section is dropped, that should be the campaign.

29% can't be right as this member is thrown every time there is a poll connected to fox news, it could also mean they're combining their local channels with cable, who knows, I just don't trust some of these polls.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
17. The breakdown is telling.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:56 PM
Mar 2015

Among Republican voters, 58 percent say they trust Fox News the most, with 13 percent favoring CNN, 7 percent for NBC and CBS, 5 percent for ABC and 2 percent for MSNBC.

With Democrats, CNN is the top choice with 32 percent, 15 percent for NBC, 14 percent for CBS and MSNBC, and 8 percent for ABC. Only 3 percent trust Fox News most.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/fox-news-trusted-network-poll-115887.html#ixzz3Tv5kSQIx

Republicans trust the conservative media a lot more than Democrats trust the so called liberal media.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
20. Who are these 3% of Democrats who watch Fucked News? Turn in your Dem cards and exit the tent, now.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:16 PM
Mar 2015

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
22. "with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.7 percentage points."
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:19 PM
Mar 2015

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
23. That still leaves .03%. Names, lets go!
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:34 PM
Mar 2015

City Lights

(25,578 posts)
18. That's the base of the GOPee.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:01 PM
Mar 2015

I'm actually relieved that it's not a higher percentage.

moondust

(21,257 posts)
19. Somewhere
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:06 PM
Mar 2015

in a stinking little corner of Hell...Goebbels is giggling.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
21. Trusted for promoting right wing bullshit?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:18 PM
Mar 2015

Yes. They are indeed trusted on that scale.

JonLP24

(29,883 posts)
36. I don't even see how they can believe
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:17 PM
Mar 2015

are they that blinded? I can understand if they favored their coverage, I like liberal news sources though but I have a big preference for honesty bias overall.

I remember after debates, I'd always switch to Fox News their bias is so obvious but they pretend they aren't biased for some reason. It had a text voting poll number immediately following so viewers can vote for who they feel who won the debate, without fail all 3 times plus the VP debate the Republican was yellowed. The Democrat was white but this kind of apparently is trustworthy to them which came across as trick to subconsciously tell the viewer who won or try to do it anyway.

Or slip in ask is it a "terrorist fist bump? " which is really WTF way to lead into a boring body expert language interview who happened to be the best body language expert I ever heard from. Pointed out a problem many body languages in box in a meaning to a specific movement, mentioning that is very unscientific.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
25. Dumb people trust dumb media.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:03 PM
Mar 2015

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
26. PBS for me
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:07 PM
Mar 2015

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
27. They're the
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015

most trusted, which doesn't necessarily equate to high quality. Some of the higher quality (and less biased) news like Al Jazeera and BBC aren't as widely-known or as accessible as FOX. If someone goes into a political science classroom on a college campus, saying that they watch FOX, they'd get laughed out of the school.

stopbush

(24,788 posts)
31. So, 71% of people trust someone other than Faux News.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:11 PM
Mar 2015

Isn't that the right way to read the statistic, as Faux News caters exclusively to republicans?

iloveObama12

(425 posts)
32. What In Theee F***! What Poll Was This
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:12 PM
Mar 2015

Spazito

(55,315 posts)
33. I always find it helpful to go to the Sample and Methodology detail to see what's
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

below the surface of reported polls. Here's the link to their detail:

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us03042015_demos_Uic472gg.pdf

CincyDem

(7,341 posts)
35. The reality is that the marching right know the party line.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:15 PM
Mar 2015


Day in and day out, it's drummed into their heads and they take every possibility opportunity to regurgitate it without thought. They're lemmings marching off the cliff. They're the marchers in Mac's iconic 1984 Super Bowl commercial. But, say what we will about their message and/or their motivations - they are disciplined.

They may fight among themselves about Jeb's education policies or Christie's scandal issues or Mitt's irrelevance...but when the time comes to "fight the enemy" they show up all day every day and they drink the Kool-aid of the party.

I have to admit - I envy their message disciple.

blm

(114,482 posts)
37. American Sniper a box-office hit. 3 decades of Moonie News propaganda WORKS.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
38. Ask the 1939 German rank and file how they felt about their fearless leader
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

the Public consensus would have been he was a great dude 80-90%. The others would be hiding from the census taker or already at the front lines. Clearly, history says otherwise.

Remember when Bush had an approval rating of 70%...remember how long that lasted?

That revolving 29-35% that seem to revere Republicans and their policies and their detractors, will also have a historical correction made some time down the road. I am 100% sure about that.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
39. We are observing a law of normal distribution.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:41 PM
Mar 2015

About a third of the population will assert a wacko, reactionary view. If the views evolve, the numbers will adjust. Political necessities may also contribute.

The poll means nothing. FOX is unique here. The others surely have journalistic conflicts, but FOX is a propaganda mill. They have staked out the territory that most of humanity won't venture into, and left the others to fight over the rest, corporately speaking, of course.

--imm


Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
40. 29%. That's roughly the same percentage of Americans that approved of Bush during the final
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:43 PM
Mar 2015

years of his administration. In other words, that 29% of reich wing America that gets all of its talking points from Faux News. A better title for this article would be, "American media scores terribly among trust with the public. Faux gets the highest with an abysmal 29% because that's about how many die hard Republicans there are that worship it."

Another way of saying it would be that nearly 71% of the American population trusts someone other than Faux to deliver the truth.

samsingh

(18,333 posts)
41. what this means is that the same buffoons who've always liked and followed fox
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:46 PM
Mar 2015

have not changed

everyone else has realized the media is a sham. msnbc should do better, but i think scarborough brings it down.

samsingh

(18,333 posts)
43. i trust some part of MSNBC and comedy central
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:49 PM
Mar 2015

samsingh

(18,333 posts)
44. was jon stewart in the survery?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 05:49 PM
Mar 2015
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