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[KamaAina]

1. Aiders and abettors

if not co-conspirators.

[tridim]

2. DERP nt

[fredamae]

3. Worthless n/t

[dumbcat]

4. Discretionary. nt

nt

[Octafish]

5. How can you even dare ask such a question?

They're accomplices.

Ask Phil Gramm how he's doin'.

[Sheepshank]

6. look up legal defn't of traitor...lets just start there with the discussion. n/t

[Fred Sanders]

9. You should do as he says. Look up the definition of sedition also.

[Sheepshank]

25. here...I'll write it slowly

I was referring to the portion of the Constitutional act of Treason that can only happen while the US is at war. Congress has not declared war on Iran.

"The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution" http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/treason

Again, I welcome discussion.

[Sheepshank]

24. actually it's your own "education" that is in question.

what don't you understand about opening up the discussion? Your comeback is to insult? Grow the fuck up.

I was referring to the portion of the Constitutional act of Treason that can only happen while the US is at war. Congress has not declared war on Iran.

"The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution" http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/treason

Again, I welcome discussion.

[Fred Sanders]

26. Yes..your tone certainly suggests you "invite discussion"!? Opening with "Grow the fuck up" is so inviting....

[lpbk2713]

8. I'm still waiting for Bush & Cheney to be brought up on charges.

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the good ole boys to discipline their own.

[PowerToThePeople]

18. This Nation will have no moral standing until this occurs. n/t

[TexasProgresive]

10. No viable case can be made to charge them with Treason

and the Logan Act has not been used in its 200+ year history.

[Hekate]

11. What would I call them? People who actually know the definition & limitations of the term "traitor."

Government is more complicated than we sometimes wish it could be, but we don't want to go down the same road as the Senate47Morons who apparently believe government is whatever they say it is at any given moment.

[frazzled]

12. Nice try at trying to turn the tables

from the real issue and the real perpetrators. But it ain't working here.

The old agent provocateur shtick is getting way too obvious.

[FiveGoodMen]

13. More traitors

The bow of our national boat is already poised in mid-air, past the edge of the waterfall.

ANYONE who isn't trying to undo the damage at this point is a war-criminal, an enemy of all humanity, a traitor, a worthy substitute for Satan.

FUCK THE BIG TENT. DEMOCRACY IS DYING. YOU'RE EITHER WITH HUMANITY OR YOU'RE THE DEVIL.

Any compromise with evil IS evil.

[Telcontar]

15. You're either with us or against us!

Lord, what next?

[FiveGoodMen]

19. Happens to be true

Slap your head all you want.

You've identified which side you're on.

[Telcontar]

22. Apparently you and George II have much in common

Personally, I wouldn't advertise that. YMMV

[pinboy3niner]

16. I eagerly await the coming national purge

Prepare the guillotines!

[FiveGoodMen]

20. The instruments of death will be used on us if we don't stop this.

[pinboy3niner]

21. Hyperbole much?

This is starting to sound like a book I read: Gulag Archipelago.

[PADemD]

14. Derelict

Dereliction of Duty

[99Forever]

17. Complicit n/t

[Binkie The Clown]

23. One of the ancient Greek philosophers, I forget which one, once asked...

"If a rich man steals a pig and a poor man steals a pig, which one will be punished for his crime?" Nothing has changed in the last 2000 or more years.

[mythology]

27. I call them smart enough to understand the word treason

Just because you don't like something doesn't make it treason. I'm not Joe Mccarthy.

[Sheepshank]

28. I'm gonna ask one more time so we can discuss

Is this a traitorous act? I actually don't think so. The Constitution has been clarified, that one can ony act as a traitor during times of war and the USA is not currently at war with Iran.

"The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution" http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/treason

Again, I welcome discussion...if you can try and hold back the insults, perhaps you may even learn a little something.

Clearly the 47 Senators suck big time. They are nasty, made the USA look bad in international eyes, they are dis-loyal and undermined the whole peace process. Which is not too surpriseing since they are the party of war. Hollerin' about treason, when it may not actually fit the circumstances, just makes Dems look foolish.

So, I read that there is a high level of disloyalty. What is the protocal for such acts?

[MineralMan]

29. In this case, I'd call them very smart.

In the first place, prosecuting sitting Senators for something like this would not result in anything but keeping the issue in the media. IN the second place, prosecutions for treason are rare, since the definition for treason is very specific, and nothing in it has anything to do with the letter sent by those Senators.

Federal prosecutors, in dealing with elected officials, particularly Presidents, Senators and members of Congress, are extremely hesitant to prosecute, and for very good reasons. It's not going to happen, because such prosecutions would threaten the very structure of our government.

[cali]

30. I call your post absurd. and the comparison to torture, ridiculous.

This is not treason under the law. And that has shit to do with corruption. Are you actually calling Obama corrupt because his administration CAN'T prosecute? This would be thrown out of court so fast, you're head would spin.

[SidDithers]

31. Another thread complaining not about the 47 Republicans...

but about Democrats who won't do exactly as the OP hopes.

FFS.

The Republicans spoke with just1voice in that letter. Why don't you castigate them for their actual actions? Why are you so eager to shift blame from the real assholes in this incident?

Sid

[cali]

32. the stupid it burns. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. Elevating idiocy to treason doesn't make it actionable./NT

[stage left]

34. I would call them

Collaborators. And add what if a political party stole an election and were never prosecuted for it?