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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:19 PM Mar 2015

Lindsey Graham: As President I Would Deploy The Military Against Congress - Vox

Lindsey Graham: as president I would deploy the military against Congress
Amanda Taub - Vox
March 11, 2015, 6:10 p.m. ET

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Republican senator and presidential maybe-hopeful Lindsey Graham stopped by the "politics and pies" forum in Concord, New Hampshire, today, where he announced that if he is elected president in 2016, his first act will be to deploy the military in Washington to force Congress to reverse cuts to the defense and intelligence budgets.

Yes, you heard that right. Here are Graham's exact words:

And here's the first thing I would do if I were president of the United States. I wouldn't let Congress leave town until we fix this. I would literally use the military to keep them in if I had to. We're not leaving town until we restore these defense cuts. We are not leaving town until we restore the intel cuts.


Graham would use the military to force members of Congress to not just vote on the bill — but to pass it. Graham didn't say "until I get an up-or-down vote on restoring defense cuts." He said "until we restore these defense cuts."

In other words, Graham is proposing that his first act as president would be to use the military to force the legislative branch to pass his agenda.

Is Senator Graham announcing his plans for a self-coup?

If taken literally, Graham is basically announcing his plan to stage a coup: he is saying that if he gains control of the executive branch, he will use his authority as commander in chief to overcome the separation of powers and force the legislative branch to do his bidding, instead of allowing it to act as an independent branch of the government.

Political scientists often refer to that type of action as a "self-coup," a situation in which a legitimate leader uses the military or other armed force to unlawfully seize more power than is permitted under the constitution of the country in question. Usually that's a permanent seizure of power and a total shutdown of the legislature, so what Graham is proposing is a relatively mild version. But as silver linings go, "it's a coup, but only a small one" isn't very comforting.

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More: http://www.vox.com/2015/3/11/8193751/lindsey-graham-military-coup


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Lindsey Graham: As President I Would Deploy The Military Against Congress - Vox (Original Post) WillyT Mar 2015 OP
Well, isn't that special frazzled Mar 2015 #1
Must be something Faux pas Mar 2015 #2
Literally? cpwm17 Mar 2015 #3
I suspect not Sherman A1 Mar 2015 #4
Yo! Miss Lindsay, go somewhere and work off those vapors! leftofcool Mar 2015 #5
Now now nxylas Mar 2015 #12
Poor Lindsey.... democrank Mar 2015 #6
THIS should be today's media firestorm Dems to Win Mar 2015 #7
Absolutely !!! - He Should Be Hung Out To Dry... WillyT Mar 2015 #8
You'd think there'd be some coverage of this gratuitous Mar 2015 #16
He loves America so much, he wants to destroy the Constitution neverforget Mar 2015 #9
''Dictater Lindsey'' DeSwiss Mar 2015 #10
every year it seems more and more crazy people get into politics. why? ND-Dem Mar 2015 #11
Senator dipshit Aerows Mar 2015 #13
Morning Kick !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #14
Which is just one of many reasons he'll hughee99 Mar 2015 #15

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. I suspect not
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:45 PM
Mar 2015

as I recall, there are some rules against that type of thing. Perhaps the Esteemed Senator may want to take a few moments from his surely hectic schedule and review that Constitution thing again.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
12. Now now
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:29 AM
Mar 2015

Couldn't we have just one Lindsey Graham thread without the homophobic slurs? Especially when he's planning a fucking military coup.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
7. THIS should be today's media firestorm
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:13 PM
Mar 2015

Graham just disqualified himself to any sane American who heard about this statement.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. You'd think there'd be some coverage of this
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:10 AM
Mar 2015

I wonder why these remarks aren't being scrutinized? Or do the popular media just don't think the Senator's remarks are very serious?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
10. ''Dictater Lindsey''
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:09 AM
Mar 2015

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''We're not leaving town until we restore these defense cuts.
We are not leaving town until we restore the intel cuts.''
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K&R

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Senator dipshit
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 03:58 AM
Mar 2015

once again speaks.

I'm pretty sure the two or three brain cells Graham has to rub together (and I'm being generous, here) are collapsing under the strain.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
15. Which is just one of many reasons he'll
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:10 AM
Mar 2015

Never be president. Even the republicans don't like him very much.

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