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Per CNBC - ADP Numbers bad (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 OP
But the Dow is almost back to pre-crash heights MannyGoldstein May 2012 #1
Double bonus for Romney. Gets to say recovery too slow, too few jobs, plus he Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 #2
Way more than the top 10% leftynyc May 2012 #3
80% of stocks are held by the top 10% nt MannyGoldstein May 2012 #4
Isn't it all relative though? My IRA is 100% composed of stock. It may be a pittance compared Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 #5
Given that ProSense May 2012 #6
gallup says "US Job Creation Near four Year High" Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 #7
That's a forward looking measure. ADP backward looking dmallind May 2012 #8
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. Double bonus for Romney. Gets to say recovery too slow, too few jobs, plus he
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:08 AM
May 2012

gets his bank account fattened. More money for Ann to buy $990 blouses.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
3. Way more than the top 10%
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:10 AM
May 2012

have money in the market. Everyone with a 401k plan has money in the market. I'm thrilled at how the market has performed during Pres Obama's first term.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. Isn't it all relative though? My IRA is 100% composed of stock. It may be a pittance compared
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:23 AM
May 2012

to the entire equity market, but, if the market does well, my IRA does well.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Given that
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:36 AM
May 2012

ADP is typically regarded as unreliable, it'll be interesting to see what Friday brings.

The ADP report was off by about 80,000 in January (showing fewer than BLS) and March (coming in more than BLS):

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The number of jobs added was the fewest ADP has reported in seven months. Stock futures fell after the report was released.

The survey, which covers hiring only in the private sector, has been known to deviate sharply from the government's figures, which wil, be released Friday. For example, the government said employers added just 120,000 jobs in March — much lower than ADP's estimate.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2012-05-02/adp-job-estimate-april/54682794/1


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. gallup says "US Job Creation Near four Year High"
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:38 AM
May 2012
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154406/Job-Creation-Nears-Four-Year-High.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup's Job Creation Index increased to +20 in April from +18 in March. Net new hiring is now at its best level since July 2008 and is near +26 -- the highest score Gallup has recorded since tracking began in January 2008.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
8. That's a forward looking measure. ADP backward looking
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:49 AM
May 2012

It's no weirder that they disagree than weather forecasts for yesterday and tomorrow (less accurate to boot). Gallup measures self-reported intent to add or shed jobs. ADP measures new jobs already added to payrolls (by a subset of employers).

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