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LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:34 PM Mar 2015

4 teen girls brutally beat 15-year-old girl in Brooklyn McDonald's as dozens cheer (warning GRAPHIC)

Dozens of kids and at least two adults watched as four teenage girls brutalized a pint-sized 15-year-old girl in a Brooklyn McDonald’s — but not one made a move to stop it, a shocking video that’s been shared across the globe shows.

None of the witnesses at the Flatbush Ave. fast-food joint — many of whom were cheering during the after-school onslaught— dialed 911, though McDonald’s workers did call, police said.

One callous onlooker even joked as the girl lay on the floor, “Yo, she’s dead. It’s a murder!”

And even though every punch, gasp and cheer was captured on video, the girls who carried out the brutal beatdown may never be charged since witnesses refuse to speak up.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/victim-brooklyn-mcdonald-attack-brags-fame-online-article-1.2146897



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4 teen girls brutally beat 15-year-old girl in Brooklyn McDonald's as dozens cheer (warning GRAPHIC) (Original Post) LittleBlue Mar 2015 OP
Witnesses refuse to speak up? philosslayer Mar 2015 #1
One has been arrested - I just posted in LBN nt LiberalElite Mar 2015 #90
Been all over the news here, and... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #2
The bystander effect is usually brought up in situations like this. ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2015 #53
If this is related to the bystander effect, it's a particularly horrifying... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #71
I agree. ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2015 #76
I heard the victim and her family won't speak up B2G Mar 2015 #3
If they can identify the people, then it may not mattet Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #60
I hope they find them. bravenak Mar 2015 #4
What's World Star? lovemydog Mar 2015 #11
Prepare to be amazed LittleBlue Mar 2015 #15
How fucking sick can you get? hifiguy Mar 2015 #19
Thanks. lovemydog Mar 2015 #24
Looks to be all kinds of train wreck stuff not just fights. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #69
Agreed Mr Dixon Mar 2015 #95
World Star Hip Hop mwrguy Mar 2015 #17
Thank you. lovemydog Mar 2015 #25
World Star Hip Hop. bravenak Mar 2015 #20
Ah, thanks. lovemydog Mar 2015 #22
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You just watched it tho? Are you sick? bravenak Mar 2015 #35
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I'm with you... dhill926 Mar 2015 #72
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As someone who also got hooked on WorldStar LittleBlue Mar 2015 #45
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It's a window into another world for me LittleBlue Mar 2015 #52
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Not affected by LittleBlue Mar 2015 #56
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It's sort of like people of Wal-mart Scootaloo Mar 2015 #77
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It's like when you keep clicking on the videos to the right on YouTube snooper2 Mar 2015 #101
I've never needed anything like that notadmblnd Mar 2015 #29
Well, I've been jumped many times. bravenak Mar 2015 #32
I was being flip notadmblnd Mar 2015 #38
I was attacked in my alley taking out the garbage about six months back. bravenak Mar 2015 #43
Wow, that's fairly recent. notadmblnd Mar 2015 #51
Disgusting that you support this phil89 Mar 2015 #34
I don't care what you think. I said I watch it on you tube, not support it. bravenak Mar 2015 #36
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Just how is this different from bumfighting? hifiguy Mar 2015 #58
I have to admit I watched "Bumfights" once (not my idea) as a high schooler. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #64
I usually don't judge what others do for entertainment. Throd Mar 2015 #44
They arrested one and are looking for 5 more- I just posted in LBN nt LiberalElite Mar 2015 #91
We are DONE hifiguy Mar 2015 #5
IKR abelenkpe Mar 2015 #9
Ask Bravenak.... It appears to be her evening entertainment from a few posts up... Oktober Mar 2015 #37
Don't put it all on her. She said she's experienced violence in the past, so maybe it's cathartic. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #65
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I don't know what exact videos she watches. I'm not her. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #70
I came to that conclusion a looong time ago. mikeysnot Mar 2015 #31
link from article about beating: abelenkpe Mar 2015 #6
Dunno whether it's early-onset Alzheimer's, dementia or just plain hifiguy Mar 2015 #10
Rudy's chasing another hit of camera-lights and headlines. JHB Mar 2015 #21
"let him rave on, that men may know him mad" 0rganism Mar 2015 #108
Link doesn't work. mnhtnbb Mar 2015 #7
Make sure every college in the country knows these attackers names bluestateguy Mar 2015 #8
Tell me again that we are not turning into a "Mad Max" society. Brigid Mar 2015 #12
I don't think we're turning into a Mad Max society. lovemydog Mar 2015 #86
The future of the republican party in action. Turbineguy Mar 2015 #13
Your link doesn't work, but i found this: tammywammy Mar 2015 #14
This country has become a vast, open air lunatic asylum. hifiguy Mar 2015 #18
Yes, exactly. I can't even believe what I am reading. smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #75
She should become friends with the girl hit by the shovel. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #39
I worked with tow younger women cwydro Mar 2015 #48
Should be attempted murder charges on those kicking her in the head seveneyes Mar 2015 #16
I'll just stand around and watch while this girl get beat savagely damnedifIknow Mar 2015 #23
I've broken up many of these. mikeysnot Mar 2015 #42
very very sad nt steve2470 Mar 2015 #26
Ditto. cwydro Mar 2015 #50
That girl in the blue bra just kept kicking and stomping the poor child's head and face! nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #28
"poor child" is ok. Click on the link. She's enjoying her new fame Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #73
Yeah--and I see that the blue bra girl has been arrested already. nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #80
good Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #81
devolution spanone Mar 2015 #40
DEVO were 35 years ahead of their time. nt hifiguy Mar 2015 #46
we're gonna moonwalk ourselves into oblivion....it appears spanone Mar 2015 #49
Looks like she's getting "jumped in" Warpy Mar 2015 #55
You don't fight back if you're getting jumped in aikoaiko Mar 2015 #62
Could be, but it didn't look like she was throwing punches Warpy Mar 2015 #82
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Apparently she's already boasting of being "famous" on Facebook. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #66
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Thuis kind of brawling 2naSalit Mar 2015 #61
Good God.. nruthie Mar 2015 #63
There is often a fine line between a civilization and barbarianism. Creatures like this RKP5637 Mar 2015 #79
Looks like message auto removed JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #83
Yes, thanks MIRT. lovemydog Mar 2015 #87
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Dear InkyStarlings JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #98
Kudos to you and MIRT! Spazito Mar 2015 #102
Look below JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #105
LOL! Spazito Mar 2015 #106
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As a middle-aged man in good shape, I can understand the trepidation of stepping into this fight NickB79 Mar 2015 #84
You would lose mwrguy Mar 2015 #88
Exactly my point. NickB79 Mar 2015 #89
More importantly mwrguy Mar 2015 #92
Agree. Get physical with someone else's kids? Naaah, that's all right... GOLGO 13 Mar 2015 #96
Well, there are exceptions to that rule snooper2 Mar 2015 #103
The host of a show called "Bar Rescue" has a technique he claims to have invented. ieoeja Mar 2015 #109
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That's nauseating leftynyc Mar 2015 #93
I get the message this video has been removed because it's content violated B Calm Mar 2015 #94
Nothing new under the sun KamaAina Mar 2015 #99
And the victim sez: Look I'm famous now. You too can visit her site!! Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #107
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
1. Witnesses refuse to speak up?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

Uh... they're on video! Shouldn't be too hard to figure out who they are.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Been all over the news here, and...
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:40 PM
Mar 2015

I heard there has been at least one arrest.

FWIW I have witnessed similar fights, with spectators cheering them on. I would be interested in hearing from those who know more about this phenomenon.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
53. The bystander effect is usually brought up in situations like this.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:54 PM
Mar 2015
https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/bystander-effect

The bystander effect occurs when the presence of others hinders an individual from intervening in an emergency situation. Social psychologists Bibb Latané and John Darley popularized the concept following the infamous 1964 Kitty Genovese murder in Kew Gardens, New York. Genovese was stabbed to death outside her apartment three times, while bystanders who observed the crime did not step in to assist or call the police. Latané and Darley attributed the bystander effect to the diffusion of responsibility (onlookers are more likely to intervene if there are few or no other witnesses) and social influence (individuals in a group monitor the behavior of those around them to determine how to act).

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
71. If this is related to the bystander effect, it's a particularly horrifying...
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:03 PM
Mar 2015

aspect.

The "bystanders" were cheering them on, taking pictures, and treating it like a show.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
76. I agree.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:32 PM
Mar 2015

The social influence part could have started with one person cheering and a few others joining in, perhaps the people cheering were also friends of the suspects and not random strangers.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
3. I heard the victim and her family won't speak up
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:41 PM
Mar 2015

They're afraid of retribution.

This video makes me sick.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
60. If they can identify the people, then it may not mattet
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:44 PM
Mar 2015

A lot of prosecutors would prosecute this case with the video, even if the victim doesnt want them to.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
15. Prepare to be amazed
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015
http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/

It's basically a site where beatdowns are posted. Sometimes people will shout out WorldStar hoping it's seen on WSHH

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
95. Agreed
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 08:48 AM
Mar 2015

This a site that the clowns post these video's on very. If there is great divide in the poor community it begins with this trashy site.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
20. World Star Hip Hop.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:17 PM
Mar 2015

Every fight video has sone asshole screaming WORLD STAR!! All loud and shit repetively. They host street fight videos. I watch them all the damn time. It's like my crack. I wanna stop but I just need one more hit, then I'm done.

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LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
45. As someone who also got hooked on WorldStar
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:47 PM
Mar 2015

I can tell you there is no logical reason for me. As Bravenak said, it's like an addictive substance. Human depravity near its lowest.

Like watching Beatrix Kiddo slice through 30 people in Kill Bill, WSHH is a trainwreck and you find yourself being unable to look away. There's no rational reason behind it.

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LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
52. It's a window into another world for me
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:53 PM
Mar 2015

And yeah, I do believe that violent movies sate the human desire to see blood spilled. Perhaps we spilled blood for so many thousands of years, it's in our omnivorous DNA. We don't even kill our own food today. Maybe WSHH fills the gap for some of us.

You seem like someone who isn't effected by it, which is a good thing I think

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LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
56. Not affected by
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:03 PM
Mar 2015

bloodlust. In the sense that you have no desire to see it. It seems to disgust you rather than amuse or entertain. Maybe it as the way you were raised, maybe you don't have the violence gene.

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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
77. It's sort of like people of Wal-mart
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:34 PM
Mar 2015

It's not that you enjoy it. it's that you're there, looking at this stuff and going "oh my fucking god people fucking do this?!" and before you know it you've spent like nine hours looking at this crazy shit.

It's a weird sense of euphoric disconnection caused by overwhelming disbelief and mild shock. The internet version of sniffing glue.

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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
101. It's like when you keep clicking on the videos to the right on YouTube
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:51 PM
Mar 2015

and eventually, you end up in the really weird part of YouTube LOL

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
32. Well, I've been jumped many times.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

I lived that life. I've been the girl on the floor. Never beat on like that except when they tried to jump me into the gang and I refused. Having a sister has nothing to do with it.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
38. I was being flip
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:41 PM
Mar 2015

I've fought with my sisters. Seriously though, I've never been subjected to this sort of violence. I'm sorry that you were.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
43. I was attacked in my alley taking out the garbage about six months back.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:45 PM
Mar 2015

I swear watching these videos helped me react quickly and know what to do. It lasted five seconds and then she was done and falling down like she was drunk. She straight kicked me out of nowhere.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
51. Wow, that's fairly recent.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:52 PM
Mar 2015

it's a shame people can't take their garbage out thee days without making certain that no one is lying in wait.

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nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
64. I have to admit I watched "Bumfights" once (not my idea) as a high schooler.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:20 PM
Mar 2015

At the time we found the sheer human wretchedness - crack-smoking techniques, (literal) piss beer - hilarious, but in retrospect it was more sad than anything else.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
44. I usually don't judge what others do for entertainment.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:45 PM
Mar 2015

But finding enjoyment from watching beatdowns is pretty twisted.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
65. Don't put it all on her. She said she's experienced violence in the past, so maybe it's cathartic.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

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nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
70. I don't know what exact videos she watches. I'm not her.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:56 PM
Mar 2015

I was just saying there might be a reason other than sheer malice or sadism.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
6. link from article about beating:
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:55 PM
Mar 2015

Your link didn't work but going to the main site had several links to the story. One went here:

Rudy Giuliani says Obama should be more like Bill Cosby, blames Brooklyn McDonald's fight, Ferguson cop shootings on President

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/giuliani-blames-obama-mcdonald-fight-shootings-article-1.2146983

Just when you thought Rudy Giuliani couldn't get crazier, the former NYC mayor blamed Obama for the brutal beatdown at a Brooklyn McDonalds — and said the president should be more like Bill Cosby.

Obama is ignoring “enormous amounts of crime” committed by African-Americans, Giuliani said Thursday. And he said President Obama is to blame for the brawl inside a McDonald’s in Brooklyn as well as the shooting of two cops in Ferguson because of the anti-police "tone" coming from the White House.

The former mayor, speaking on AM970 radio this morning, was asked what he thought about a number of disturbing issues in the news.

(more at link)

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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. Dunno whether it's early-onset Alzheimer's, dementia or just plain
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

nutsery, but Ghouliani needs to be led off to some nice, safe, place with big-ass locks on the doors, and soon.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
21. Rudy's chasing another hit of camera-lights and headlines.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:21 PM
Mar 2015

His recent dose is wearing off, and he doesn't have a fat contract from a Gulf sheikdom to fill the void.

0rganism

(25,646 posts)
108. "let him rave on, that men may know him mad"
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 02:32 PM
Mar 2015

i guess it's a quote from the 10 Commandments movie, but it seems to apply here...

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. Make sure every college in the country knows these attackers names
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:56 PM
Mar 2015

Although somehow I doubt college was ever in the cards for them.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
12. Tell me again that we are not turning into a "Mad Max" society.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:10 PM
Mar 2015

A few people around here used to make fun of me for saying so. I wonder what they think now.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
86. I don't think we're turning into a Mad Max society.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:30 PM
Mar 2015

Violent crime is lower than it's been since the 1950's. The world is less at war than at any time in the 20th century. Far fewer people go to bed hungry now than since the first World War. The numbers have been going steadily down since the 1970's. Scientists are working on cutting the numbers in half every decade and now believe we can drop it to nearly zero.

For every negative thing we read about or see on the internet, there's acts of kindness. I think our sense of fear and dread can get heightened when we focus almost solely on the negative stuff. I'm no pollyanna, but I read a lot of history. Violence has existed since the beginning of recorded history. Surely before that too.

None of what I've said is meant to excuse or condone the actions of those kids in that video. It's horrendous & troubling & saddening. I truly hope they will learn from it and not keep doing that crap. Thank goodness no one was killed.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
14. Your link doesn't work, but i found this:
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:10 PM
Mar 2015
Victim of Brooklyn McDonald's beatdown brags about newfound fame on Facebook

The pint-sized teenager who took a pounding at a Brooklyn McDonald’s was glorying Thursday in her newfound and very sick celebrity.

“Everyone Like Im Famous Now,” the 15-year-old posted on her Facebook page a day after shocking video of her being brutalized at the Flatbush Ave. fast-food joint hit the Web.

Several other of her pals posted photos of the Daily News front page bearing the headline “SAVAGE!” and showing part of the fracas.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/victim-brooklyn-mcdonald-attack-brags-fame-online-article-1.2146897
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
75. Yes, exactly. I can't even believe what I am reading.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:22 PM
Mar 2015

This society has gone completely mad.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
48. I worked with tow younger women
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:50 PM
Mar 2015

who loved to watch this kind of thing on the internet. At work.

Number one, I was horrified there were sites to do so.

Number two, even more horrified that anyone would want to watch.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
16. Should be attempted murder charges on those kicking her in the head
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:14 PM
Mar 2015

Forty years in prison might give them time to reconsider their sick fucking attempts to harm others.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
23. I'll just stand around and watch while this girl get beat savagely
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:26 PM
Mar 2015

Damn, how could anyone just watch this happen? Do they think it's cool somehow? It's nowhere near cool it's deranged.

mikeysnot

(4,926 posts)
42. I've broken up many of these.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:43 PM
Mar 2015

I usually look for big guys that have looks of horror and compassion on their face to join me by going, "lets break this up before it gets ugly". I always get some of them to help me. It does work.

It happens so fast and escalates so quickly that most of the time people feel helpless, so joining forces works.

only got hit once in the face once, I had the chicks arm behind her back so fast her head spun around with a look of horror.

I told, her I am not going to hurt you, unless you hurt me.

This was way before all this bullshit and smart phones. Phones that make people stupid and narcistic. People still can't film properly, hold the phone in landscape not protrait for jebus sake.

I used to think the Internet would make people better and smarter, but I was wrong.

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
28. That girl in the blue bra just kept kicking and stomping the poor child's head and face! nt
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:34 PM
Mar 2015

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
55. Looks like she's getting "jumped in"
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:01 PM
Mar 2015

except the girl who'd been stripped down to her bra took it more personally and refused to let up even when the rest lost interest. That's the one who needs to be off the street.

This jumped out at me, "RUDY GIULIANI BLAMES BROOKLYN MCDONALD'S FIGHT ON OBAMA, SAYS PRESIDENT SHOULD BE MORE LIKE BILL COSBY." You mean they'll be nicer if they're all drugged and raped, Rudy? Want that to happen to your wife and kids, Rudy?

Those kids don't need the victim to identify them. Teachers, parents, and other adults will.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
62. You don't fight back if you're getting jumped in
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:11 PM
Mar 2015

It was just a brawl where friends came to the rescue of a one on one fight

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
82. Could be, but it didn't look like she was throwing punches
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:21 PM
Mar 2015

At the end, some boys in the crowd tried to pull her away from the bra bully and pull the bra bully away from her, "get her some ice!" can be heard several times at the end. People did try to help her.

Bra bully belongs in a cage.

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2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
61. Thuis kind of brawling
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:01 PM
Mar 2015

among girls is nothing new. I remember this kind of shit when i was a teen, decades ago. The difference here is that it's now online entertainment.

nruthie

(466 posts)
63. Good God..
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:12 PM
Mar 2015

This is depressing in so many ways. I didn't realize that brutality was in such demand as a spectator sport. Might as well bring out the lions and gladiators and really put on a show for all the bloodthirsty fans cheering for more blood and mayhem. Put it on You Tube so everyone can share in the fun. Repulsive.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
79. There is often a fine line between a civilization and barbarianism. Creatures like this
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:40 PM
Mar 2015

will repeat this again in life IMO.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
83. Looks like message auto removed
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:30 PM
Mar 2015

Is minding her own damn business now. So much time - so little to do.

for my fellow MIRT members who are much quicker on the draw than me!

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JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
98. Dear InkyStarlings
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:26 PM
Mar 2015

I'm a MEMBER of MIRT.

If you had wanted to be a member of MIRT or Host a Group - you should have played nice and not been given the boot.


You didn't play nice - and this is what happened to you.


I feel bad for you - last night you got the boot - and now again. My 14K posts in 8 years? Let's talk about your 35 in two hours last night. That's kind of sad.

Spazito

(55,499 posts)
102. Kudos to you and MIRT!
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:52 PM
Mar 2015

Thank you for taking out the garbage smelling up DU, all of you do a stellar job!

Spazito

(55,499 posts)
106. LOL!
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 02:22 PM
Mar 2015

Smelly garbage took umbrage at being called smelly garbage no doubt!

MIRT is so efficient I didn't even have a chance to see it, kudos yet again!

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NickB79

(20,356 posts)
84. As a middle-aged man in good shape, I can understand the trepidation of stepping into this fight
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:06 PM
Mar 2015

Just imagining myself in this situation, say I step in and try to pull the assailants off the girl. Then the assailants, all teenage girls, attack me.

I know I COULD defend myself if absolutely necessary, but do I dare fight back? If one of them knees me in the balls, would punching her in the face then make me the bad guy? Do I then end up on Youtube as the asshole grown man beating up a few girls? Beyond that, I'm a white guy, so would I get stereotyped as a racist to boot?

I can see where some people would freeze up instead of coming to the rescue, with these thoughts running through their heads.

On the other hand, I could see my Puerto Rican wife kicking their asses six ways from Sunday if they so much laid a finger on her

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
88. You would lose
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:21 AM
Mar 2015

Most of the crowd would turn on you if you punched one of those girls.

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
89. Exactly my point.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:40 AM
Mar 2015

Men generally aren't "allowed" to use physical force against women in our society, even in justifiable self-defense such as the example I gave.

Though the fact that no one called 911, or at least helped the police identify the assailants, is inexcusable.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
96. Agree. Get physical with someone else's kids? Naaah, that's all right...
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:13 AM
Mar 2015

Play the "White Knight" and watch yourself get arrested & then sued by the parents for "man-handling" their precious angel.

I'm with you on this. Especially if your a white guy. If it's not my kid involved, it's step way-way back, 911 & leave.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
103. Well, there are exceptions to that rule
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:55 PM
Mar 2015

Girl Gets Knocked Out In South Beach

(being a drunk asshole hitting random people on the sidewalk may not be good for your health)

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
109. The host of a show called "Bar Rescue" has a technique he claims to have invented.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:11 PM
Mar 2015

Grab a bunch of ice with a bar towel and press it on her shoulder. You don't hurt her. But you definitely get her to pull away from what she is doing.

A bartendar, of course, has all that to hand. Probably not be timely enough for the rest of us. If you're standing there with a soda maybe you could pull out a chunk of ice and drop it down her blouse for the same affect.

I would even consider throwing a drink in her face. But that is an actual physical attack, albeit non-harmful, and likely to initiate a different fight with you now the target.

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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
93. That's nauseating
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:34 AM
Mar 2015

Just a couple of weeks ago I was outside my office building having a smoke when the school around the corner let out. Two kids starting kicking the crap out of eachother and I immediately called 911 and explained what was happening, described the two fighters down to the brand of sneakers they were wearing, finished my smoke and went back to work. How freeking hard is it to just call and report these things?

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
94. I get the message this video has been removed because it's content violated
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 08:29 AM
Mar 2015

YouTube's term of service?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
99. Nothing new under the sun
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:43 PM
Mar 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

Catherine Susan "Kitty" Genovese (July 7, 1935 – March 13, 1964) was a New York City woman who was stabbed to death by Winston Moseley near her home in Kew Gardens, a neighborhood in the borough of Queens in New York City, on March 13, 1964.

Two weeks later, a newspaper article reported the circumstances of Genovese's murder and the lack of reaction from numerous neighbors. The common portrayal of her neighbors as being fully aware of what was transpiring but completely unresponsive has since been criticized as inaccurate. Nonetheless, that portrayal prompted investigation into the social psychological phenomenon that has become known as the bystander effect or "Genovese syndrome", especially diffusion of responsibility.
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