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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:45 AM Mar 2015

Oh God - I hope we aren't headed for a hellish summer

A hellish summer on the Gulf Coast means that we have a bunch of hurricanes, it is humid and you don't even have to live in the direct line of rage of the Gulf, you get the joys of humidity so high you can taste it, feel it, it smothers your nose and wearing nice clothes and driving a car becomes an exercise in trying to keep from drowning in the oppressive heat and humidity.

If you have ever walked across the hot pavement from your air conditioned building to meet a collegue for lunch, opened the car door, nearly got knocked down, you know what I refer to. You feigned illness as you headed back across the parking lot because there was no way you were getting in the car.

My fondest hope is that some of you up North can send us some of that snow down here, because I believe we are in for a boiling cauldron down here, and that never turns out well. Please don't be smug - we weren't either - we knew what happened was as bad for you as when we got decimated by Katrina. When it happens to us, though, it's just a different death. At least you can put more things on to keep from freezing to death - we just sit here and pray we don't boil.

And that is Aerow's editorial on "Good Lord I hope the summer isn't as bad as the start of spring." Oh, and can we have just one more tiny little cold front, please?

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Oh God - I hope we aren't headed for a hellish summer (Original Post) Aerows Mar 2015 OP
That weather is why I moved to New England. NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #1
I have to get out of it. Aerows Mar 2015 #2
I highly recommend Massachusetts MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #3
Anything has to be better than Aerows Mar 2015 #4
And that is why laundry_queen Mar 2015 #7
I enjoy the four distinct seasons inanna Mar 2015 #8
I'd love to Aerows Mar 2015 #18
we had our first fire weather warning today fizzgig Mar 2015 #5
I hope not for you Aerows Mar 2015 #6
I live in the high desert, where we tend to broil, not boil Warpy Mar 2015 #9
One of the biggest things I miss about the high desert Jon82 Mar 2015 #36
I used to think the humidity was high in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #38
A trip to Japan then Jon82 Mar 2015 #41
The humidity in the Tokyo and Kyoto/Osaka areas is high in July/August Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #47
I cannot imagine such humidity as you are describing. inanna Mar 2015 #10
Visit New Orleans from October to April. Elwood P Dowd Mar 2015 #12
Awesome! inanna Mar 2015 #15
I've been there a few times, but it was always fall or winter. Elwood P Dowd Mar 2015 #17
My suggestion is Aerows Mar 2015 #22
I wholeheartedly agree. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #11
We need to move next door Aerows Mar 2015 #19
How to deal with heat stroke or heat exhaustion... 2naSalit Mar 2015 #23
upstate SC baby Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #13
It's lovely. Not all that great leagally speaking for LGBT Americans as we can be fired or refused Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #54
A few years from now what were the worst summers will be the new normal. Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #14
oh.......god. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #31
California had a brutal one in 2006: the North American Heat Wave, I think it was called. C Moon Mar 2015 #32
I Couldn't Handle that kind of Heat and Humidity AndyTiedye Mar 2015 #16
It's summer hot in California too, and dry, dry, dry. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #20
Nasa says we have one year of water left. Scary. mimi85 Mar 2015 #27
What do you think is going to happen? vicman Mar 2015 #37
Unbelieveable yesterday catchnrelease Mar 2015 #33
Over 80 in Denver today beveeheart Mar 2015 #35
Heat and sun I enjoy - humidity kills me. closeupready Mar 2015 #21
Don't anybody worry! world wide wally Mar 2015 #24
I'm pretty sure Ted Cruz Aerows Mar 2015 #30
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Blue_In_AK Mar 2015 #25
A beautiful state. I visited 3 years ago. Loved it! C Moon Mar 2015 #29
no shit. milwaukee had a tail end of the hurricane w/ a heat wave. high 90's and my god. pansypoo53219 Mar 2015 #26
You have my sincerest of sympathies, and hopes for a drier season! C Moon Mar 2015 #28
it is march and there are crickets in the house! hopemountain Mar 2015 #34
You want hot, go to Tuscon, Arizona in August. B Calm Mar 2015 #39
I actually lived in Tuscon as a child. Aerows Mar 2015 #40
I much, much prefer the dry heat in Tucson in August to that of the South in August cali Mar 2015 #43
My dad moved there because of his arthritis. When my step mom died in August B Calm Mar 2015 #46
Tucson not Tuscon panader0 Mar 2015 #50
already an El Nino setting up ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #42
And given the drought out west, it will probably be a summer of forest fires. Vinca Mar 2015 #44
I think it's a decent 'Gulf spring' enough rain for a huge oak/ragweed/flower season & grass Sunlei Mar 2015 #45
I love the day in spring where I can see the tender green leaves coming out on CTyankee Mar 2015 #48
Heat and humidity are fine with me. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #49
We are expecting 80 degrees here today in Chapel Hill, NC. In March?!? WTF? mnhtnbb Mar 2015 #51
I read it'd be el nino weather, meaning fewer hurricanes. nt valerief Mar 2015 #52
Relax - 'Florida: Record Nine Years Have Passed Without A Hurricane Landfall' Baclava Mar 2015 #53

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
1. That weather is why I moved to New England.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:48 AM
Mar 2015

People think I'm nuts even all these years later to have left the south, but I can hack the cold. I never did well in the humid heat.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. I have to get out of it.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:58 AM
Mar 2015

I'd rather shovel snow than nearly die for 9 months due to heat+humidity.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
3. I highly recommend Massachusetts
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:09 AM
Mar 2015

Good economy, great people, loads of Liberals... Elizabeth Warren country!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
4. Anything has to be better than
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:11 AM
Mar 2015

suffocating for 9 months out of the year because you breathe soup in the form of air.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
7. And that is why
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:25 AM
Mar 2015

I'm so thankful I live in Canada. And in the prairies. I SO cannot STAND humidity. I went further east with my family during a humid summer, and I thought I was going to suffocate. I could not get a breath...I have asthma and the humidity was worse than the cold for constricting my breathing. ICK!

I feel for you. I'd take a blizzard any day over a hurricane. Or over a 100 degree day with 90% humidity.

Still, I cannot escape the people at my office who think 80 degrees is room temperature in the winter. Not easy to dress for 2 seasons at once. At least, though, I can step outside for a bit.

Maybe one day I can have you over for a visit when we are going through a -40 degree spell.

inanna

(3,547 posts)
8. I enjoy the four distinct seasons
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:34 AM
Mar 2015

common throughout most of Canada. Particularly the autumn.

I was in Edmonton for eight years after growing up in Ontario. You are correct - there is a huge difference in the humidity levels the further east you go.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. I'd love to
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:04 AM
Mar 2015

I've been outside at 7am when I traveled waiting for a building to open and it was 5F. I believe that is around -8C. It's ... fucking brisk. Can't say I wasn't damn glad to get inside. It isn't the same though when you are about to die of heatstroke and you get some peace.

You would be surprised how many southerners appreciate shoveling snow instead of wondering if we are going to pass out due to the humidity index.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
5. we had our first fire weather warning today
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:17 AM
Mar 2015

old farmer's almanac is calling for warmer than normal temps in june and july and i'm hoping we're not in for another hell summer.

northern colorado doesn't have to deal with humidity or hurricanes, but wild fires are pretty fucking scary.

Warpy

(111,166 posts)
9. I live in the high desert, where we tend to broil, not boil
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:36 AM
Mar 2015

Last year, I managed to get by with fans. I know that isn't possible in humid areas, I tried it in Florida and failed miserably.

I have no idea how people on the Gulf coast did it before AC came in. I can remember NC, which isn't nearly as steamy, and it was far too humid for me.

Now I'm completely stuck. I dream about leaving but I know I won't. I'm just too spoiled by the climate, even though June can be utterly miserable.

Jon82

(92 posts)
36. One of the biggest things I miss about the high desert
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:51 AM
Mar 2015

...is the dry climate. I own an evaporated cooler to help when the outside temp is in the high 90s to 100s but it is no where close to as useful where I live now (Arkansas) to if we were back in the high desert. Pretty much, you have to keep the air running in order to keep the air dry enough for it to do its job. Humidity is horrible here and makes it hard to enjoy any outdoor activities.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
38. I used to think the humidity was high in Arkansas
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 04:02 AM
Mar 2015

when I lived there, but after living in Japan for many years, when I go back for a visit to Arkansas, the summers seem more comfortable there.

Jon82

(92 posts)
41. A trip to Japan then
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:58 AM
Mar 2015

I love traveling and it is on my list of destinations. It looks like it might have a hidden plus.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
47. The humidity in the Tokyo and Kyoto/Osaka areas is high in July/August
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:21 AM
Mar 2015

Higher than Arkansas, unless you live in Arkansas' rice country. The northernmost island of Hokkaido is quite a nice place to visit in the summer, though.

inanna

(3,547 posts)
10. I cannot imagine such humidity as you are describing.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:37 AM
Mar 2015

I have always wanted to visit New Orleans. Maybe I should reconsider?! Due to the heat/humidity?

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
12. Visit New Orleans from October to April.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:48 AM
Mar 2015

I've lived in the deep south for 65 of my 67 years and much prefer the weather down here to the freezing cold in the north. Heat and humidity doesn't bother me, but cold weather and short days with little sun does.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
17. I've been there a few times, but it was always fall or winter.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:01 AM
Mar 2015

Heat and humidity was never an issue. The highs were usually from mid-40s to mid-60s, and humidity was only an issue once when there was lots of fog for a couple of days. Its located in what is basically a swamp, so that's to be expected at times.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
22. My suggestion is
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:14 AM
Mar 2015

mixed.

It's gorgeous in late March because the azaleas start to bloom because it is a riot of color and the skies are clear, but it might get a little warm. My point is, though, this isn't even late March or late April, point of fact, and it is already this hot and humid. Don't let it prevent you from visiting.

Those are my suggestions. You miss the characteristic monsoon rains in mid-late April, and get the flowers of late March. It is truly a gorgeous thing to see .

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
11. I wholeheartedly agree.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:47 AM
Mar 2015

I got overheated and sick today, already. I still refuse to call anything that happens in North Carolina "winter" or "spring." We have an extended fall and then Sprummer. I hate the way I feel even hours after I get overheated. I still have a headache from how bad it was.

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
23. How to deal with heat stroke or heat exhaustion...
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:31 AM
Mar 2015

Most PSAs will tell you to stay hydrated but they don't tell you that after a point water isn't the answer.

I lived in the desert for years and learned a few things after suffering heat exhaustion a few times (it was at least +100F with no breeze).

Think melons... cucumbers, cantaloup, honeydew, casaba, watermelon. Eat them on hot days... before you get heat exhaustion or heat stroke but absolutely if you start to get heat exhaustion. They not only help to keep you hydrated, they actually have a natural property called "refrigerant" which means they actually help to reduce your body temperature and this is aside from the electrolytes they contain. I found that when I was getting heat exhaustion, if I got into a darker place, like a room with shades pulled, and ate about a third of a cantaloup and rested for a while, I would be fine in an hour or 90 minutes. Then resume drinking water. Stay away from soda and alcohol, they make things worse for and can exacerbate the issue.

Immersing yourself in cool water can help too, as most mammals know.

Melons also work well if you have a fever, no matter what causes the fever.

My mom swore by salt tablets for the desert heat but I never found them useful myself. But melons were a lifesaver for me.

Humidity is horrible but melons can help you cool down enough to tolerate the heat part.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
13. upstate SC baby
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:48 AM
Mar 2015

No oppressive humidity due to the mountains, no strong hurricanes since we're too far inland, no water shortages like out west, no cold long winters like points north... if you like generally mild weather (or just hate winter with a passion like I do) this is the place to be!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
54. It's lovely. Not all that great leagally speaking for LGBT Americans as we can be fired or refused
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:27 AM
Mar 2015

employment there and actually are at times. It's not for everyone, according to the laws of the State.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
14. A few years from now what were the worst summers will be the new normal.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:49 AM
Mar 2015

And the new worst summers will not be survivable.

Welcome to global climate change.

The Arctic's climate change is messing with our weather


... continued global warming will increase the risk of heat waves. We all know that the warming temperature will make heat waves more likely. But added to this, “stickiness” of weather patterns will play a big role as well.

Whether it is the heat wave in Europe of 2003, the Russian heat wave of 2010, the heat waves in the USA in 2011 or 2012, or last year’s (and still continuing heat in California), these events have economic and human consequences. It is crucial to understand how our current climate works if we have any hope in predicting what will happen in the future.

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
32. California had a brutal one in 2006: the North American Heat Wave, I think it was called.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:59 AM
Mar 2015

It was ugly: late July 2006. It lasted over a week. One Saturday, we drove to the beach from Pasadena, and it was still upper 80's and humid at 9pm. When we got home to Pasadena, the west side of the city was dark. No power. Grateful we lived on the east side.
Yuck. More of that to come, I'm sure.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
16. I Couldn't Handle that kind of Heat and Humidity
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:57 AM
Mar 2015

unless I'm right next a beach with nice swimming (in which case I spend as much time as possible in the water).

vicman

(478 posts)
37. What do you think is going to happen?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:53 AM
Mar 2015

I have dear friends in California but they never give one moments thought to any of this. They turn the tap and clean water always comes out. All weather modeling shows no relief in sight. Will the military take over? This has got me worried.

catchnrelease

(1,944 posts)
33. Unbelieveable yesterday
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:02 AM
Mar 2015

It was 97* mid afternoon in Long Beach! And the sensor is in the shade. In mid March. I really fear what the late Summer is going to be like.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
24. Don't anybody worry!
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:36 AM
Mar 2015

Ted Cruz was just on Seth Meyer's show and said there is no such thing as global warming or climate change
Relax!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. I'm pretty sure Ted Cruz
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:56 AM
Mar 2015

has to have someone to remind him to change his underwear and socks. Heaven knows that after that tantrum there is little time for his hair (which we have all the evidence we need of that fact).

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
25. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:42 AM
Mar 2015

I have no idea what to expect for our summer after such a warm and snowless winter, but I'm sure it won't be unbearably hot. That's why I love it here.

Something to keep in mind - I've read that Anchorage where I live will be one of the best places to live after 2050 when so many other places may be uninhabitable.

pansypoo53219

(20,955 posts)
26. no shit. milwaukee had a tail end of the hurricane w/ a heat wave. high 90's and my god.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:50 AM
Mar 2015

the humidity. one of the few times i wish we had AC. because i could, i stayed up til 6am w/ all the windows wide, hoping to get under 98. AT 6 AM! SO, i am not complaining about not having many days in the 80s. but shit. 50's in july?

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
34. it is march and there are crickets in the house!
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:13 AM
Mar 2015

this is the 2nd one in a week. we're in oregon and in cali crickets in the house meant earthquake. sheesh. nooooooo!!!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
39. You want hot, go to Tuscon, Arizona in August.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 04:08 AM
Mar 2015

Bring along a pair of gloves to open your car doors.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
40. I actually lived in Tuscon as a child.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 05:09 AM
Mar 2015

And yes, you could fry eggs on the sidewalk.

There were days where you were cautioned to stay inside, but you had the benefit of evaporative cooling being your mechanism, and it is quite cheap if you do not consider the water use.

In the South, such systems do not work because the water itself is so warm, contributes to the heat, and fans even cease to work.

Normal heat systems do not work in areas, whether crowded or sparse. You are hot, and if it gets to hot, even subsuming in water doesn't help. You just boil. Unless you can devise a refrigerant system that works under extreme humidity and extreme heat, you will not survive, because most certainly power can knock out conventional air conditioning.

What do you do in the deep South high humidity climate?

And this is, indeed, a challenge.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
43. I much, much prefer the dry heat in Tucson in August to that of the South in August
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 07:40 AM
Mar 2015

any day of the week. I find humidity unbearable.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
46. My dad moved there because of his arthritis. When my step mom died in August
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:22 AM
Mar 2015

about 10 years ago, we went out to the funeral. I couldn't believe how damn hot it was, whewwww. . .

panader0

(25,816 posts)
50. Tucson not Tuscon
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

signed, a local. Actually I live south of Tucson at 4600'. Some of the best weather in the nation.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
42. already an El Nino setting up
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 07:18 AM
Mar 2015

and for Gulf Coast that means cool, damp and not many tropical events...

sP

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
44. And given the drought out west, it will probably be a summer of forest fires.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 07:49 AM
Mar 2015

I remember when I thought it might be nice to retire to a warmer place, but I'll opt for the 5 foot snow piles still melting outside the door. As long as you have a generator or alternate heat source for power outages, New England is perfect.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
45. I think it's a decent 'Gulf spring' enough rain for a huge oak/ragweed/flower season & grass
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:03 AM
Mar 2015

needs mowing once a week already. Didn't lose any fruit buds, will be a very good harvest.

Not sure if the gulf can even have hurricanes with the new jet streams changed by global warming. We could have extreme rains where even places out of the flood plains, flood. recommend flood insurance if you can get it.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
48. I love the day in spring where I can see the tender green leaves coming out on
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:47 AM
Mar 2015

my flowering dogwood tree. It gives me hope. Also the early spring flowers poking up through the snow. I get such a lift out of spring after the depressing dark of the winter. I'm getting up in the dark again with the early advent of DST. So I look each day for daylight coming a bit earlier so I can cheer it on!

but you are right about the oppressive humidity of summer. I go hang out in my local library, which is always very cool. My home airconditioning system, while central, isn't really up to the job, with the upstairs being the worst. We have a new roof this year and I'm hoping the up to date material of the shingles will provide some help.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
49. Heat and humidity are fine with me.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:53 AM
Mar 2015

Keeps things nice lush and green.

Plus we get some cool clouds.

I have no desire to see snow ever again.

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
51. We are expecting 80 degrees here today in Chapel Hill, NC. In March?!? WTF?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:58 AM
Mar 2015

Two weeks ago it was snow and ice and worries about the pipes freezing.

The weather has become completely unpredictable from normal/average with
huge swings in hot/cold temps.

I will say, though, that we were in NY in early March and I could not STAND the
radiant--much too warm--heat of the older buildings. It was so warm/moist
inside that you wanted to go sleeveless. And in fact, at one concert we attended
I saw a woman in the row in front of me take off her sweater and sit there in
her sleeveless top. It was about 25 degrees outside.

We should be having a month of 60 degree weather before we hit 80. We never had the 40's of February.

It's all crazy.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
53. Relax - 'Florida: Record Nine Years Have Passed Without A Hurricane Landfall'
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:24 AM
Mar 2015

"This is the longest stretch on record dating to 1851 that no hurricanes have made landfall in the state."

http://www.wunderground.com/news/florida-hurricane-free-streak-luck-run-out-20140801


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