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ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:06 PM Mar 2015

Why was a 9th century Viking woman buried with a ring that says ‘for Allah’?

In the modern-era, Scandinavian countries have become known for their sometimes awkward embrace of migrants from the Arab and Muslim world. But the history behind that relationship goes back far further than you might expect.

Consider the case of a ring discovered in a Viking grave in Birka, a historic trading center in what is now Sweden. The woman in the grave died in the 9th century and was discovered around a thousand years later by the famous Swedish archaeologist Hjalmar Stolpe, who spent years excavating the grave sites around Birka.

The ring is unique. Made of silver alloy, it contained a stone with an inscription written in the Kufic Arabic script widely used between the 8th and 10th centuries. "For/to Allah," the inscription read. It was the only known Viking Age ring with an Arabic inscription to be found in the entire of Scandinavia. Exactly how the woman got the ring wasn't clear — she was found wearing typical Scandinavian dress, so presumably the ring arrived through trade...

Wärmländer and his colleagues suggest it appears to show direct contact between Viking society and the Abbasid Caliphate that dominated much of the Middle East and North Africa. The authors write, "it is not impossible that the woman herself, or someone close to her, might have visited -- or even originate from -- the Caliphate or its surrounding regions."

While physical evidence of it is unusual, there have been plenty of accounts of Scandinavians from this period crossing paths with the early Muslim world. By the 11th century Vikings had become known for their lengthy sea voyages, journeying as far west as the Americas and likely reaching Constantinople and even Baghdad when they traveled the other way. And while contemporary accounts of Vikings from Western Europe suggests terrifying invaders, most accounts suggest the Vikings, likely fearful of the more sophisticated warriors in the region, instead looked for trade when they went east...

In an otherwise complimentary description of people now believed to be Vikings, Ahmad ibn Fadlan, an emissary of the Abbasid Caliph, wasn't so sure about their hygiene. "They are the filthiest of all Allah’s creatures," the Arab writer wrote in the 10th century. "They do not purify themselves after excreting or urinating or wash themselves when in a state of ritual impurity after coitus and do not even wash their hands after food."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/weekendreads/why-was-a-9th-century-viking-woman-buried-with-a-ring-that-says-%e2%80%98for-allah%e2%80%99-on-it/ar-BBilOqk?ocid=iehp

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Why was a 9th century Viking woman buried with a ring that says ‘for Allah’? (Original Post) ND-Dem Mar 2015 OP
Sounds like the basis for a good movie script leveymg Mar 2015 #1
How about...Antonio Banderas *Spoiler* Fla_Democrat Mar 2015 #4
Trade goods. Pretty ring. Codeine Mar 2015 #2
Translation may have existed even then, no? A tattoo? A tattoo is not tradable, is it? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #6
doubt they'll know about our tatoos unless widespread mummification becomes the rule ND-Dem Mar 2015 #7
Yep. Loot. Orsino Mar 2015 #12
A gift from sarisataka Mar 2015 #3
Knock off that "T" at the beginning of "Trade" AnnieBW Mar 2015 #5
There's an English coin from around then with Arabic on it. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #8
found it! MisterP Mar 2015 #11
Her husband Olaf cut off the finger of a snobby Caliph's emissary for his ring, Zorra Mar 2015 #9
EBay. djean111 Mar 2015 #10
If Janet wants a ring, Kirk gets her a ring. bluedigger Mar 2015 #13
well, this Viking woman was clearly ISIS .... kwassa Mar 2015 #14
:<) ND-Dem Mar 2015 #15

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
4. How about...Antonio Banderas *Spoiler*
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:39 PM
Mar 2015

But can it really be a spoiler for a movie that came out in 1999?


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120657/

Storyline

In AD 922, Arab courtier Ahmad Ibn Fadlan accompanies a party of Vikings to the barbaric North. Ibn Fadlan is appalled by the Vikings customs-- their wanton sexuality, their disregard for cleanliness, their cold-blooded human sacrifices. And then he learns the horrifying truth: he has been enlisted to combat a terror that slaughters the Vikings and devours their flesh.


Maybe she was Olga.







 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
2. Trade goods. Pretty ring.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:20 PM
Mar 2015

It's a stretch to assume the wearer had a single clue about what it said.

Will future archaeologists assume widespread knowledge of Chinese in America based on our tattoos?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. Translation may have existed even then, no? A tattoo? A tattoo is not tradable, is it?
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:46 PM
Mar 2015

What is interesting is the lack of even basic hygiene by the Europeans.

And once, when the Chinese were building the Great Wall, folks in Britain were still swinging from trees.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
7. doubt they'll know about our tatoos unless widespread mummification becomes the rule
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:52 PM
Mar 2015

don't know what you think you're laughing about

AnnieBW

(10,413 posts)
5. Knock off that "T" at the beginning of "Trade"
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:43 PM
Mar 2015

And you've probably gotten closer to the truth. Her husband, or future husband, probably got in raiding somewhere and gave it to her.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. Her husband Olaf cut off the finger of a snobby Caliph's emissary for his ring,
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 01:49 AM
Mar 2015

while his Viking Horde was raping and pillaging near Mecca.

Then he brought a pretty present home for his wife, Ylva.

Not rocket science.

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