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Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:22 PM

Stunning photo - Chippewa Indian girl, 1907



Portrait of an Ojibway, or Chippewa Indian girl by Roland W. Reed, National Geographic, 1907

Just beautiful.

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Reply Stunning photo - Chippewa Indian girl, 1907 (Original post)
oxymoron Mar 2015 OP
wendylaroux Mar 2015 #1
Cha Mar 2015 #2
LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #8
Cha Mar 2015 #37
unionthug777 Mar 2015 #3
Scuba Mar 2015 #6
unionthug777 Mar 2015 #41
Scuba Mar 2015 #42
unionthug777 Mar 2015 #43
Cha Mar 2015 #38
mountain grammy Mar 2015 #4
El Shaman Mar 2015 #33
rjsquirrel Mar 2015 #53
davidsilver Mar 2015 #55
mountain grammy Mar 2015 #56
proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #58
virgogal Mar 2015 #5
narnian60 Mar 2015 #9
aikoaiko Mar 2015 #7
raven mad Mar 2015 #10
yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #11
BlueJazz Mar 2015 #12
oxymoron Mar 2015 #27
radhika Mar 2015 #13
oxymoron Mar 2015 #21
laundry_queen Mar 2015 #14
FourScore Mar 2015 #15
cwydro Mar 2015 #16
jwirr Mar 2015 #17
Jenoch Mar 2015 #19
jwirr Mar 2015 #20
Jenoch Mar 2015 #23
jwirr Mar 2015 #25
Jenoch Mar 2015 #30
jwirr Mar 2015 #32
gollygee Mar 2015 #29
Octafish Mar 2015 #54
Brickbat Mar 2015 #24
jwirr Mar 2015 #26
Jenoch Mar 2015 #31
Brickbat Mar 2015 #45
Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #59
Jenoch Mar 2015 #18
toothless dragon Mar 2015 #28
Bulletin Justin Mar 2015 #22
Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #47
BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #34
Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #35
greatlaurel Mar 2015 #36
Name removed Mar 2015 #39
catbyte Mar 2015 #40
Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #44
Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #46
Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #48
Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #49
Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #51
Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #52
Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #63
Aristus Mar 2015 #50
Richard D Mar 2015 #57
AikenYankee Mar 2015 #60
Delphinus Mar 2015 #61
Name removed Mar 2015 #62

Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:31 PM

1. Just beautiful indeed!

Just sitting here starring at her. Wow.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:40 PM

2. I have Ojibway blood.. mahalo, oxymoron for the beautiful photo. I'll have to show it to my sister

and son.

Is there a link?

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:14 PM

8. looks like it is https://i.imgur.com/Gluqvrm.jpg

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:24 AM

37. Mahalo LiberalArkie! Except that just gets us the photo.. but that's okay..



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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:41 PM

3. beautiful !!!

not that I am biased or anything. ( I am ojibwe)

ojibwe !!!!

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Response to unionthug777 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:59 PM

6. Hey, Thug, how're they hanging? Yes, she's very beautiful.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:02 AM

41. hi scuba !!

always to the left !! how goes it wayyyyyyyyy up north there?

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Response to unionthug777 (Reply #41)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:14 AM

42. It's spring here! Loving it!

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #42)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:21 AM

43. here too !!!

it's about time !!! daffodils are sprouting fast.

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Response to unionthug777 (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:25 AM

38. I got some in me too, from my Mama's side!

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:45 PM

4. Lovely, just lovely.

reminds me of song lyrics by Tim McGraw:

I'm an Indian outlaw
Half Cherokee and Choctaw
My baby she's a Chippewa
She's one of a kind

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:01 PM

33. So many of us:

I wonder how we lost it all?

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:39 PM

53. That song

 

is full of racist stereotypes. Yuck.

And unless you're an enrolled tribal member, bragging about your "Indian blood" is part of the same tradition of casual erasure of real Native people in favor of mythologies, stereotypes, and appropriations.

The girl in the photo is a white man's fantasy of an exotic "Indian maid" in nature. In reality she was witness to the genocide of her people.

National Geographic is the Riefenstahl of that genocide.

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Response to rjsquirrel (Reply #53)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:36 PM

55. Hey, lighten up man.

 

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Response to rjsquirrel (Reply #53)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:49 PM

56. The first time I heard this song was in a cafe in the Navajo Nation

in Arizona. I asked the American Indians we were sitting with, who were obviously enjoying the song, why it wasn't offensive to them. They laughed and said it should offend me. They thought the song was actually poking fun at white people who boast of having Indian blood. I said I was completely ok with it, and loved the song.
I remember some controversy about the song but this one is really in the eye of the beholder.
I don't like the Redskins mascot for the NFL team because I see it as racist. Traveling through the Navajo Nation this year we passed a high school with a marquee proudly announcing it was the "HOME OF THE REDSKINS." I had a chance to ask about this, and the Indians I talked to said it really is an individual thing with some tribal members wanting to leave the name and others wanting to change it. So far, the team is still the "Redskins."
Personally, I still don't like the term.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-arizona-a-navajo-high-school-emerges-as-a-defender-of-the-washington-redskins/2014/10/26/dcfc773a-592b-11e4-8264-deed989ae9a2_story.html

The girl in the photo is no "white man's fantasy" because it's an actual photograph.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:46 PM

5. That picture is perfection.

 

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Response to virgogal (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:15 PM

9. +100

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:00 PM

7. What an image. Powerful.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:22 PM

10. Awesome.

Thank you.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:23 PM

11. Sugoiiii!

wonderful!

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:38 PM

12. I wonder what she was thinking. I'm truly touched.

 

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:36 PM

27. That was my reaction as well

It's a deeply moving image.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:42 PM

13. Wow! Thank you for introducing me to Roland W Reed...

I didn't know him, but found so many gorgeous images just by Googling. Here's one link, as a start....


http://www.artnet.com/artists/roland-reed/past-auction-results

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Response to radhika (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:10 PM

21. Thank you for posting the link

It was too late to edit. Wonderful collection.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:44 PM

14. Wow, stunning is right.

So beautiful.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:46 PM

15. Stunning! n/t

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:49 PM

16. How moving and how incredibly beautiful.

Wow.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:01 PM

17. Beautiful lady. Background lookes like she may be standing on a hill overlooking Lake Superior.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:05 PM

19. There are several bands of Ojibwe in Minnesota

 

with lakes large enough to produce this image.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:08 PM

20. That is true. My son-in-laws and grandchildren and great grandchildern are all Ojibwe. We live near

Lake Superior. The picture just gave me a feeling.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:14 PM

23. I used to live in Duluth.

 

I have also been to most of the casinos in the state at one time or a other.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:19 PM

25. Now you have me beat there. I have only been to the one in Duluth and the one outside Cloquet.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:51 PM

30. I'm going give you an idea of how long ago

 

it was that I lived in Duluth. The first Indian gaming was bingo. The Fond du Lac band did not own the property on which their casino was located (downtown Duluth) so they played blackjack (or "21" using numbered ping pong balls because the law was not clear about gambling using cards if the casino was not on the reservation.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:55 PM

32. Long time ago.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:50 PM

29. And in Michigan

Also lakes big enough.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #29)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:54 PM

54. The wave pattern said ''Lake Michigan'' to me...

...and that photograph is, as noted on this thread, perfection.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:15 PM

24. More likely Red Lake, since Reed did much of his work there.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:20 PM

26. That is very possible. It is a huge lake and would look like also.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:54 PM

31. I did a quick search about him.

 

Do you have a link with more information? I thought it could have been Red Lake, Mill Lacs, or even Leech or Vermillion.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #31)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:21 AM

45. Nothing more than Wikipedia.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 06:15 PM

59. That was exactly my thought.

Someplace like La Point in the Apostles, maybe.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:02 PM

18. I too am impresssed with this photo.

 

I am curious as to where the photo was taken. There several bands of Ojibwe in Minnesota (where I am from).

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:44 PM

28. I think Brickbat is correct

 

Upper Red Lake sounds and looks correct... thought there are many lakes... the size looks right.... there are no islands... the lake looks fairly oval and the terrain is very flat... would appear to be from the south to the north... the population centers were all on the south shore I believe... If her name really is Ever Wind... I wonder if she is related to KaKaygeesick also knows as Everlasting Sky

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:11 PM

22. Her name is Every Wind!

I have several photographs of Native Americans from various tribes hanging in my living room. My husband printed them years ago before he retired as a pressman. Every Wind's name was noted on the back of the photo.

She and a picture of Red Cloud watering his horse are my two favorites.

I think the name is wonderful and suits her perfectly.

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Response to Bulletin Justin (Reply #22)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:39 AM

47. Interesting, Reed titled the photograph Enemy Wind yet identifies her as Everywind

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:05 PM

34. makes me cry....

So beautiful

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:12 PM

35. kick

 

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:36 PM

36. Thank you for posting this.

Beautiful.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 07:43 AM

40. Beautiful. She looks like my mom as a girl, but she wasn't born until 1924.

She was Ojibwe, and I'm 5/8 Ojibwe with a dash of Lakota thrown in. The rest is French-Irish. Chii megwetch for posting!

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:13 AM

44. I don't know where you get "National Geographic, 1907"

I have a complete set of National Geographics up to 1997, and that photo does not appear in any of the 1907 editions, even in the edition which features the article "Indians of North America".

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #46)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:50 AM

48. Thanks

I checked my September 1988 edition, and there it was-- on page 349. A really stunning photo

I wonder why it was not included in the original 1907 article?

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #48)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:10 AM

49. The photograph was taken in 1907 - National Geographic purchased it in 1915

In 1915 National Geographic Magazine licensed the rights to about 40 of his photographs, but fewer than eight were actually published between 1916 and 1988.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #49)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:12 AM

51. My hat is off to you



My next question would be, why did it take National Geographic so long--73 years-- to publish this photo?

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #51)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:34 AM

52. Five minutes visiting WikipediaŽ and I'm an authority

Nevertheless, I'll accept kudos from any quadrant.

Have you ever been to the Castle? They have a LOT of stuff that never gets published!

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #52)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 07:29 AM

63. I have been to the Smithsonian Castle

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:11 AM

50. Breathtaking.

Thank you for sharing.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 02:18 PM

57. What a different world it was then.

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 06:24 PM

60. Lovely. nt

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Response to oxymoron (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 06:51 PM

61. Oh my.

Simply beautiful. Thank you for sharing this.

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