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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu May 3, 2012, 10:01 AM May 2012

Romney Wouldn’t ‘Confront The Religious Right’ Over Grenell

Romney Wouldn’t ‘Confront The Religious Right’ Over Grenell

Richard Grenell, Romney’s national security and foreign policy spokesperson, resigned Tuesday because he was told to stay silent on a foreign policy conference call he organized, the New York Times has confirmed. Theories and reports have circulated about why Grenell left, including speculation that the campaign didn’t want to anger the religious right over the appointment of a gay spokesman – which aides confirmed was an issue.

From the Times:

But Richard Grenell, the political strategist who helped organize the call and was specifically hired to oversee such communications, was conspicuously absent, or so everyone thought.

It turned out he was at home in Los Angeles, listening in, but stone silent and seething. A few minutes earlier, a senior Romney aide had delivered an unexpected directive, according to several people involved in the call.

“Ric,” said Alex Wong, a policy aide, “the campaign has requested that you not speak on this call.” Mr. Wong added, “It’s best to lay low for now.”

Romney aides told the Times that they tried to keep Grenell from resigning but that they also didn’t want to anger social conservatives:

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/grenell-resigned-over-conference-calls

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Romney Wouldn’t ‘Confront The Religious Right’ Over Grenell (Original Post) ProSense May 2012 OP
Not surprised. atreides1 May 2012 #1
He wouldn't confront Limbaugh over his Fluke smears aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #2
Spineless little political prostitute... AzDar May 2012 #3
Um...Shirley Sherrod, Van Jones tularetom May 2012 #4
Not the same. ProSense May 2012 #5
Romney apparently knew the guy was gay and that was OK with him tularetom May 2012 #6
Really? ProSense May 2012 #7
WTF difference does it make WHY somebody bows to right wing pressure? tularetom May 2012 #9
And WTH ProSense May 2012 #10
If you can't confront old marginalized dinosaurs, then how can you confront our nation's enemies? ck4829 May 2012 #8
You'd think with "Romney care" Willard would have had a spinal implant rustydog May 2012 #11

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
4. Um...Shirley Sherrod, Van Jones
Thu May 3, 2012, 10:20 AM
May 2012

and most recently Al Armendariz.

Unfortunately, this is one area where "both sides are equally guilty".

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Not the same.
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:49 PM
May 2012

There are always situations that involve alleged controversial comments. When the RW launches an attack, and other people jump on the bandwagon, it becomes a distraction. Still, people across the political spectrum will demand someone be removed for a controversial comment.

Not defending someone because s/he is gay is simply cowardice.

Obama Stands By His LGBT Nominees Under Attack From The Right: ‘I Will Not Waver In My Support’
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/10/10/63982/obama-hrc-speech/

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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/kevin-jennings-obama-anti-bullying-czar




tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. Romney apparently knew the guy was gay and that was OK with him
Thu May 3, 2012, 07:40 PM
May 2012

He allowed (not forced) the man to resign because some right wing assholes had a fake outrage over him being gay.

Jones and Sherrod were pressured to resign, not because of comments they made but because some right wing assholes and a fake outrage over those comments.

Sounds pretty much the same to me. The common denominator is fear over fake outrage by right wing assholes.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. Really?
Thu May 3, 2012, 07:44 PM
May 2012

"He allowed (not forced) the man to resign because some right wing assholes had a fake outrage over him being gay. "

You're actually trying to defend that shit with a false equivalency?

I noticed you ignored the fact that Obama didn't bow to RW pressure in an exact situation (RW outrage because the person is gay) as Romney.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. WTF difference does it make WHY somebody bows to right wing pressure?
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:54 PM
May 2012

OK I'll grant you Obama didn't bow to right wing pressure in a situation where the person was gay.

But he did bow to right wing pressure on several occasions and let fine people take the heat and ultimately lose their jobs.

If it makes you feel any better I agree Romney is an invertebrate for failing to stand up to this kind of bullshit.

But I can't see how that makes it OK for Obama to fail to stand up to it.

I know you won't agree and you'll probably respond by putting a portion of this post in quotes and then telling me why I'm full of shit for posting it.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. And WTH
Thu May 3, 2012, 10:04 PM
May 2012
WTF difference does it make WHY somebody bows to right wing pressure?

OK I'll grant you Obama didn't bow to right wing pressure in a situation where the person was gay.

But he did bow to right wing pressure on several occasions and let fine people take the heat and ultimately lose their jobs.


...is it that you don't understand about a situation that escalates due to spin (see the child labor rule and the people on the left who were duped) about a comment or issue and rejecting someone because they're gay?

Do you understand that one is a direct assault on civil rights and the other is simply a controversy?

I'm fairly certain that no one here would demand someone be removed for being gay, but would immediately demand someone be fired for a controversial comment. It has happened.

See the difference?

And yes, Obama stood up where Romney didn't. Period.



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