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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 04:36 PM Mar 2015

Role of Hillary Clinton’s brother in Haiti gold mine raises eyebrows

Role of Hillary Clinton’s brother in Haiti gold mine raises eyebrows

MORNE BOSSA, Haiti — Drive down the rutted dirt road a couple of miles to the guardhouse, then hike 15 minutes up to the overgrown hilltop, and there it is: a piece of 3 1/2 -inch-wide PVC pipe sticking out of the ground.

This is what, at least for the time being, a gold mine looks like.

It also has become a potentially problematic issue for Hillary Rodham Clinton as she considers a second presidential run, after it was revealed this month that in 2013, one of her brothers was added to the advisory board of the company that owns the mine.

Tony Rodham’s involvement with the mine, which has become a source of controversy in Haiti because of concern about potential environmental damage and the belief that the project will primarily benefit foreign investors, was first revealed in publicity about an upcoming book on the Clintons by author Peter Schweizer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/role-of-hillary-clintons-brother-in-haiti-gold-mine-raises-eyebrows/2015/03/20/c8b6e3bc-cc05-11e4-a2a7-9517a3a70506_story.html?postshare=9431426941780024
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Role of Hillary Clinton’s brother in Haiti gold mine raises eyebrows (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 OP
" Rodham, a former repo man, prison guard and private detective, ..." 4139 Mar 2015 #1
Ah yes, Hillary's plan to plunder Haiti! jberryhill Mar 2015 #2
Hit piece on Hillary cloudywing Mar 2015 #3
Kind of looks to me like someone has an agenda madokie Mar 2015 #22
^And . . . he's gone.^ Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #23
While I have question as to whether HRC is our right choice awake Mar 2015 #4
But the Clinton Foundation was the only way this clown got into Haiti. Divernan Mar 2015 #18
What HRC's brother did will not have anything to do with how she will act awake Mar 2015 #25
Her brother got this deal through the Clinton Global Initiative. Divernan Mar 2015 #26
I do recall the issue of how Obama's brother overstayed his US visa awake Mar 2015 #29
Focus on the corruption of the Clinton Global Initiative to benefit HRC's brother, then. Divernan Mar 2015 #32
That convinces me to never vote for Tony Rodham bluestateguy Mar 2015 #5
LOL CatWoman Mar 2015 #6
Now I know where Britebart picked it up./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #7
The Clintons have always been sleazy with Haiti Oilwellian Mar 2015 #8
FFS. Her brother? Was "involved"? Are we really this desperate for anti-Hillary dirt? DanTex Mar 2015 #9
appears that way. spanone Mar 2015 #15
What's ur evidence 4 this? There's lots 2 criticize Hillary 4 but haven't seen evidence she used her influence 2 enrich her brother. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #31
Remember how Neil Bush was involved in the Silverado Trust bullshit.. Historic NY Mar 2015 #10
yeah but jeb has a penis dsc Mar 2015 #14
Not sure about that, but Jeb does have a dick for a brother, GW. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #30
Mineral Extraction Industries are among the most profitable. Ask Poppy Bush. Octafish Mar 2015 #11
Reminds me of Billy carter n2doc Mar 2015 #12
But one can refrain from setting up lucrative deals for one's relatives, can't one? Divernan Mar 2015 #19
the usual corruption is likely in play Agony Mar 2015 #13
So, now we know what -THEY- think is in those "personal emails" HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #16
Might explain her change of heart re Haiti. Octafish Mar 2015 #17
That's odd. How does the State Department sign agreements with another country, while having . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #21
Same way laws get signed that benefit banksters: Buy Partisanship. Octafish Mar 2015 #33
Oh, man, don't even mention that pus pocket to me. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #34
Ja, Arnolt dit nice tings für ENRON, ja. Octafish Mar 2015 #35
Yup. The Clinton Global Initiative shoehorned Rodham into a sweet deal! Divernan Mar 2015 #20
Truly shameful. RiverLover Mar 2015 #24
He is a family member of one of our highest-levels of the ''Elected Elite Class.'' DeSwiss Mar 2015 #27
Good. I've been meaning to get my eyebrows raised jberryhill Mar 2015 #28
Haiti is never not being fucked over. And no one appears to give a shit. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #36

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. Kind of looks to me like someone has an agenda
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:06 PM
Mar 2015

like constantly finding fault even when there is no fault to be found.

awake

(3,226 posts)
4. While I have question as to whether HRC is our right choice
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 04:49 PM
Mar 2015

lets not judge her by the actions of her brother. She need to be judge by her record not her husband's, brother, father....

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
18. But the Clinton Foundation was the only way this clown got into Haiti.
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 09:52 PM
Mar 2015

And if you google Clinton and Haiti, you will see some harsh criticism of the Clinton Foundation's efforts in Haiti as targeting exploiting business opportunities rather than replacing destroyed housing.

awake

(3,226 posts)
25. What HRC's brother did will not have anything to do with how she will act
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:18 PM
Mar 2015

Any more than what Obama's bother did had any thing to with his presidency.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
26. Her brother got this deal through the Clinton Global Initiative.
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:23 PM
Mar 2015

Absolutely nothing remotely comparable re Obama's brother, is there? I'm sure you'll reply with some FACTS to back up your reckless accusation of Obama. What business dealings has he had with his brother?

awake

(3,226 posts)
29. I do recall the issue of how Obama's brother overstayed his US visa
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:34 PM
Mar 2015

The point is I feel that ones family should be off limits in campaigning. I am not condoning or defending any actions of the "Clinton Global Initiative" I just feel we should stay focused on the actual candidate not their brother, sister, mother, father, daughter, son or spouse.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
32. Focus on the corruption of the Clinton Global Initiative to benefit HRC's brother, then.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:26 AM
Mar 2015

First of all, if you can't be bothered to produce a link, you have no business making your charge. about "Obama's brother."

Secondly, HRC is part and parcel of the Clinton Global Initiative, and her supporters have touted that as some noble charitable activity. The Clintons have raked in tens of millions of dollars of "donations" for their services as expediters in putting deals together - since their books are private, we have no idea how many millions the Clintons skim off the top for their salaries/perks/5 star travel around the world. As others have pointed out, foreign governments have long been perfectly capable of making direct donations to other countries for emergency relief. Adding a middleman, i.e, the Clinton Global Initiative/qua "expediter" just siphons off some of that relief money to a non-essential third party. The purpose of foreign govts. in going through the Clintons? Quid pro quos should HRC make it to the oval office. You cannot separate HRC from the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Global Initiative. You might as well attempt to separate her from her actions as a Senator or Secretary of State.

Now it turns out Haiti has become a corporate profit center - with Clinton money being used to set up corporate profit opportunities, i.e, exploiting cheap third world labor, rather than rebuilding basic infrastructure for Haitians. As part of the country's "Reconstruction", The Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund recently invested $2 million in the Royal Oasis Hotel, a deluxe structure to be built in a poverty-stricken metropolitan area filled with displaced persons.

AP reported in April that funds raised by the former US Presidents to help the neediest Haitians are now being used to build a hotel for "rich foreigners" including tourists as well many foreign NGO "aid workers" currently in Haiti. (Daniel Trenton, AP: New hotels arise amid ruins in Haitian capital, Clinton Bush Haiti Fund, April 29, 2012)
http://www.sott.net/article/247379-Clinton-Bush-Haiti-Reconstruction-Fund-Used-to-Build-Five-Star-Hotels

It is worth noting that Western governments have insisted that aid money for Haiti be given to NGOs and foundations rather than to the Haitian government, which they consider to be "corrupt".

In the aftermath of the January 2010 earthquake, people in the US, Canada and the EU, who made donations to those humanitarian organisations and NGOs did not realize that their contribution to Haiti's reconstruction would be channeled towards the building of five star hotels to house foreign businessmen. Their expectation was that the money would be used to provide food and housing for the Haitian people.

Royal Oasis hotel
The Royal Oasis as well as other hotel projects totalling over $100 million are, according to AP, "raising hopes that thousands of [foreign] investors will soon fill their air-conditioned rooms looking to build factories and tourist infrastructure" (emphasis added)

The "10-story building [...] will include an art gallery, three restaurants, a commercial bank and high-end shops. Construction on the Royal Oasis began before the earthquake and is expected to finish by the end of the year." The earthquake was therefore a blessing for the hotel promoter and contractors, bringing $2 million dollars originally raised to "go directly to supplying these material needs [food, water, shelter, first-aid supplies]" (see add below). Among the companies involved in the construction of the Royal Oasis two are Haitian, one is Canadian (Montreal) and the other American (Miami).



InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,383 posts)
31. What's ur evidence 4 this? There's lots 2 criticize Hillary 4 but haven't seen evidence she used her influence 2 enrich her brother.
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 11:50 PM
Mar 2015

Historic NY

(37,608 posts)
10. Remember how Neil Bush was involved in the Silverado Trust bullshit..
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 05:46 PM
Mar 2015

Neil M. Bush, the President's son, and other directors, officers and lawyers of a defunct Denver savings and loan association, saying their ''gross negligence'' had led to a collapse that could cost taxpayers more than $1 billion.


http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/22/business/fdic-sues-neil-bush-and-others-at-silverado.html

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. Mineral Extraction Industries are among the most profitable. Ask Poppy Bush.
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 05:51 PM
Mar 2015

He got a law passed just before leaving office that really helped private shareholders at public expense.

http://www.gregpalast.com/poppy-strikes-gold/

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
12. Reminds me of Billy carter
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 06:02 PM
Mar 2015

Jimmy's neer do well brother. Well, one can't choose one's relatives, can one?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
19. But one can refrain from setting up lucrative deals for one's relatives, can't one?
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 09:55 PM
Mar 2015

Name one action Jimmy Carter EVER took to promote his brother's financial situation. If Hillary wants to help her brother, she can give him an office at the Clinton Foundation.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
13. the usual corruption is likely in play
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 06:30 PM
Mar 2015

if we were a talking about an ordinary persons siblings this would be irrelevant.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. So, now we know what -THEY- think is in those "personal emails"
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 08:06 PM
Mar 2015

Oh, just the possibility of proximity of federal just records bits and bytes away from -THAT-. It's a disgrace to the federal archive!!!


Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Might explain her change of heart re Haiti.
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:54 PM
Mar 2015
Bill and Hillary Clinton: “Friends of Haiti?”

Marty Goodman
Black Agenda Report, Wed, 12/05/2012

Bill Clinton and Obama’s Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are called “the Friends of Haiti.” Oh, really?

After the 2010 earthquake in Haiti, President Obama appointed Bill Clinton as US envoy, partnering with the Katrina and Iraq criminal George Bush, Jr., a supporter of the 2004 CIA-backed military coup which overthrew the elected President, Jean-Bertrand Aristide. After the earthquake, Bill headed relief agencies, while excluding Haitians themselves. The stated theme of the Clinton-Bush effort was to “build back better.” Today, Bill is the UN envoy and acknowledged guiding hand behind international relief efforts.

Both Bill and Hillary are promoters of the U.S. dominated World Bank low-wage sweatshop plan for Haiti, angrily dubbed “the American Plan” by Haitians. Last year, Hillary signed an agreement committing $124 million tax dollars to the building of the Caracol sweatshop assembly park in the north of Haiti. The agreement includes massive tax breaks for sweatshop bosses. Workers there are making the starvation wage of about $3.50 a day.

On Oct 22, 2012 Bill and Hillary were on hand for the inaugural ceremony in Caracol. Also there was Haitian President Michael Martelly, a pro-coup right-winger linked to Duvalier era thugs. Hillary praised Martelly as Haiti’s “chief dreamer and believer.” Martelly, once again, declared Haiti “open for business.”

The sweatshop park was launched with $3 million from the “Clinton Bush Haiti Fund,” set up by the two Obama appointees to spearhead so-called earthquake relief fundraising. One park occupant, Sae-A Trading, is a large textile company cited by the AFL-CIO for “acts of violence and intimidation” against workers in Guatemala.

“Last year, Hillary signed an agreement committing $124 million tax dollars to the building of the Caracol sweatshop assembly park in the north of Haiti.”


In 1993, during Bill Clinton’s administration, he appointed his close friend Ron Brown as Secretary of Commerce. In the early 1980s, Brown was a partner in the powerful Washington law firm of Patton, Boggs & Blow. Brown was a paid attorney and a lobbyist for Haitian dictator Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier and his family. Brown was also personally linked to wealthy Haitian pro-Duvalier figures.

CONTINUED (Original URL):

http://blackagendareport.com/content/bill-and-hillary-clinton-%E2%80%9Cfriends-haiti%E2%80%9D

CACHED: http://web.archive.org/web/20150222032111/http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/bill-and-hillary-clinton-%E2%80%9Cfriends-haiti%E2%80%9D

War Inc needs the oil. I mean minerals. Uh. I mean gold. Right? AmIrightoramiright?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
21. That's odd. How does the State Department sign agreements with another country, while having . . .
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:03 PM
Mar 2015

. . . future businesses in that country to be run by relatives in mind, and make it sound legal??

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
33. Same way laws get signed that benefit banksters: Buy Partisanship.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:09 PM
Mar 2015

Take UBS and its vice chairman, Phil Gramm, the slow talking tip o' the spear for the repeal of Glass-Steagall hisself. On the payroll is a regular Who's Who of the process, including the guy who signed it into law, William J. Clinton.

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

The immoral of the story: When everybody goes along, everybody gets along.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
34. Oh, man, don't even mention that pus pocket to me.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:27 PM
Mar 2015

I hate Gramm with a freakin' vengeance.
His wife helped take Enron down the rosy corporate road paved with gold bricks, screwing California up at the same time they were bilking 10s of 1000s of investors, which led to Ahnooed becoming the Gubinator of Kalifoorniah.

Another douchebag actor fake politician thief fraud blowhard.


Octafish

(55,745 posts)
35. Ja, Arnolt dit nice tings für ENRON, ja.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:23 PM
Mar 2015

Maybe he told Maria he vass doing the undercover spying, ja!

But Gramms?! Mr. and Mrs. Gramm normally would be in a criminal pickle:

Money laundering, as Chairperson Gramm testified, is not even a violation of the Commodities Futures Trading Act. Incredibly, it appears that the CFTC and the self-regulatory organizations have never even made a criminal referral for possible money laundering:

From DU2's earliest days: Guess who ties ENRON to BCCI?


But, for some reason, they and their kind are able, administration after administration, to continue their criminal manipulations.

From 2008, just days after the Panic: Know your BFEE: Phil Gramm, the Meyer Lansky of the War Party, Set-Up the Biggest Bank Heist Ever.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
20. Yup. The Clinton Global Initiative shoehorned Rodham into a sweet deal!
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:00 PM
Mar 2015

From the OP's link:

In interviews with The Washington Post, both Rodham and the chief executive of Delaware-based VCS Mining said they were introduced at a meeting of the Clinton Global Initiative — an offshoot of the Clinton Foundation that critics have long alleged invites a blurring of its charitable mission with the business interests of Bill and Hillary Clinton and their corporate donors.


What next, a similar lucrative deal for Chelsea's ex-convict father in law? He still owes over $9 million to the victims of the frauds for which he was convicted and served time.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
24. Truly shameful.
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:14 PM
Mar 2015

No, I could never bring myself to vote for this. This is not why I'm a Democrat. Sleazy corrupt stuff, belongs over with the pile on the right.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
27. He is a family member of one of our highest-levels of the ''Elected Elite Class.''
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:27 PM
Mar 2015

Which REQUIRES and DEMANDS deference and anonymity. hahahahaha

It is almost comical to hear the screams of horror!! The gnashing of teeth and the raised-eyebrows of incredulity that someone would write a hit piece on the most wonderfullest and loving, The Holiest Mother of Holy Mothers, ''Saint Hillary.''

And yet every goddamned republican who ever ran for anything was scrutinized up the yin-yang - his momma, his daddy and the maid. A quick perusal through the DU Archival-Tulips will prove my point. But no matter. We all know that everyone and his brother in the Bush family were castigated and run through the mill, mercilessly.

And RIGHTFULLY SO!

Poppy always weirded me out. He always impressed me as a dirty old man. And that mother! And her goddamned ''beautiful mind!'' Those are some sick puppies. Yes, we can all agree on that.

And so are the Clintons. Sick as they come. Grifters and con artists extraordinaire. And her ability to Continue the Con is proven by the fact that so many here are still supporting her after she has so clearly demonstrated from her comments and voting history, that she could give less than a fuck about anything except getting her ass elected to something, the power that gives her and of course, the money. Plenty of MONEY.

- It's time to trash this shitty system and build something that fucking works.



The Venus Project
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. Good. I've been meaning to get my eyebrows raised
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:31 PM
Mar 2015

Now if it could lift my chin a bit and pull back my jowls, I can save a fortune by giving a shit about her brother's dealings.
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