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ONEs new report, Poverty is Sexist: Why Girls and Women Must be at the Heart of the Fight to End Extreme Poverty, addresses the fact that girls and women are prevented from reaching their full potential socially, economically and legally especially in the developing world.
Across every key gender indicator, life is significantly harder for girls and women in the least developed countries compared to those living in other countries. While men in poor countries are also disadvantaged, the gender gap between males and females is even larger in the poorest countries.
This needs to change and not only because it is a source of endemic, global injustice. Put simply, poverty is sexist, and we wont end it unless we face up to this fact.
Though this list could go on indefinitely, here are 10 reasons why girls and women are essential to ending extreme poverty:
Read More http://www.one.org/us/2015/03/10/10-reasons-why-girls-and-women-are-essential-to-ending-extreme-poverty/
Warpy
(111,122 posts)From "A Room of one's Own," the whole chapter is a good read: https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/w/woolf/virginia/w91r/chapter2.html
freshwest
(53,661 posts)sheshe2
(83,633 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)1. Globally, providing female farmers with the same access to productive resources as male farmers could reduce the number of people hungry by 100-150 million.
2. Reducing differences in the employment rate between men and women by 2017 could generate an additional $1.6 trillion in global output (measured in purchasing power parity).
3. Every year that a girl spends in school can boost her future income by 1020%.
4. It is estimated that an increase in educational equality can increase income per capita by 23%.
sheshe2
(83,633 posts)Thanks for posting them.....
More for others at the link.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Thank you!
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)frigging ending *poverty*?
We can fight each other for places on the greased rope forever, the .01%ers love it.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)It says it right in the subject header:
If you read the article it the benefits are for everyone--men, women, children. Sheesh...
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)"Across every key gender indicator, life is significantly harder for girls and women in the least developed countries compared to those living in other countries. While men in poor countries are also disadvantaged, the gender gap between males and females is even larger in the poorest countries."
End fucking poverty. It's not a gendered issue. Stop making it one and work on ending poverty.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I'll support it because IT DOES work on ending poverty for BOTH men and women. Guess some people just can't see the forest for the trees, even if it's the friggin forest they wanted to get to....
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Have any statistics to support that claim?
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 22, 2015, 04:59 AM - Edit history (1)
My claim is: poor is poor, and poverty is the issue.
* Black & latino women are most likely to have pay parity with black and latino men (91% parity) -- and black and latino women are also most likely to be poor. Low wages = poverty, period.
* Low wage working women in general, including white women, are most likely to receive "gender-equal" wages. It doesn't make them less poor. Low wages = poverty, period.
* Male wages have stagnated since the 1970s, during which period women's increased moderately. At the same time, the real value of the minimum wage declined, pulling down the wages of low-income workers generally. The result: only the top tier of households gained, while the rest flatlined. Low wages = poverty, period.
*Although younger cohorts have the most gender-equal wages, they are also the households doing worse economically in comparison with their historic peers. Poor = poor, regardless of gender equality.
"◾The age cohort with the grimmest history, of course is the 15-24 bracket. As of 2011 they have the sole distinction of a lower real median income than their 1967 counterparts 7.9% lower. At least 2011 was better for this cohort than 2011, when they were 11.9% below their real 1967 income level."
* In fact, in contrast with post-war trends, no one is doing well but the upper middle class and the rich. And *that's* the real problem, one that equalizing the wages of the already poor won't remedy. They're already equal, and still poor.
The raw wage gap data shows that a woman would earn roughly 73.7% to 77% of what a man would earn over their lifetime. However, when controllable variables are accounted for, such as job position, total hours worked, number of children, and the frequency at which unpaid leave is taken, in addition to other factors, the U.S. Department of Labor found in 2008 that the gap can be brought down from 23% to between 4.8% and 7.1%.[6]
Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Are you then saying that focusing on women doesn't help lift anyone out of poverty?
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)The article in the OP deals with global poverty, that is, absolute poverty, not the relative poverty of the poor of the US.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)muck around changing other people in places they don't even understand.
not making them less poor you see, just changing relationships between men and women and claiming that will make them less poor.
sounds like imperialism to me.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)How about reparations in the form of financial aid? How to use that financial aid is the question. If international organizations use that money on helping lift women specifically out of poverty, it helps more than if they spend half of it on men and half on women. If they build schools for girls, give women microloans, give women medication to make sure they don't transmit hiv to their fetus, improving women's access to energy - these things have an enormous impact on the micro-economy of their communities. If the men feel left out, they will have to adapt.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)= training for them work as cheap factory labor for the 1st world; because women workers are more docile, and work for less, than men.
Traditional community values destroyed and families and communities atomized: mission accomplished.
Trojan horse bullshit.
Microcredit, the practice of making small loans to very poor people, grew into a multibillion-dollar business. But microfinance companies have been accused of predatory lending and collection practices so harsh that they drove some borrowers to suicide. One state government in India has enacted legislation that will, in effect, put the microlenders out of business.
http://www.npr.org/2010/12/31/132497267/indias-poor-reel-under-microfinance-debt-burden
Another highlight: when we re-run the complicated regression that is the source of a statistic Muhammad Yunus has cited, that "5 percent of the Grameen borrowers get out of poverty every year," we get the opposite sign. Seemingly, lending to women makes families poorer...but I just told you how much credence we put on such claims about cause and effect.
Bottom line: the academic evidence that microcredit reduces poverty is really weak.
http://www.cgdev.org/blog/new-challenge-studies-saying-microcredit-cuts-poverty
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Women are unlikely to withhold education and other tools to ease poverty for religious or the other reasons it's done to them. And a 'rising tide lifts all boats.' Why not make these steps to lift up half the human race, in some nations where girls are not even given birth certificates, as if they are non-persons?
I think something must be done, no matter how disdained the solutions may be. Because of the forces arrayed against equality, we must not just leave the solution as an it's not worth doing, or a 'do nothing' and leave it there. I think we can trust women as well as men to solve this problem.
Saul Alinsky, a well-known and effective community activist, said this:
These Do-Nothings profess a commitment to social change for ideals of justice, equality, and opportunity, and then abstain from and discourage all effective action for change. They are known by their brand, 'I agree with your ends but not your means'.
Alinsky wrote these books that are considered standards:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rules_for_Radicals.png
Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals is the late work of community organizer Saul D. Alinsky, and his last book, published in 1971 shortly before his death. His goal for the Rules for Radicals was to create a guide for future community organizers to use in uniting low-income communities, or "Have-Nots", in order to empower them to gain social, political, and economic equality by challenging the current agencies that promoted their inequality.[1] Within it, Alinsky compiled the lessons he had learned throughout his personal experiences of community organizing spanning from 1939-1971 and targeted these lessons at the current, new generation of radicals.[2]
Divided into ten chapters, each chapter of Rules for Radicals provides a lesson on how a community organizer can accomplish the goal of successfully uniting people into an active organization with the power to effect change on a variety of issues. Though targeted at community organization, these chapters also touch on a myriad of other issues that range from ethics, education, communication, and symbol construction to nonviolence and political philosophy.[3]
Though published for the new generation of counterculture-era organizers in 1971, Alinsky's principles have been successfully applied over the last four decades by numerous government, labor, community, and congregation-based organizations, and the main themes of his organizational methods that were elucidated upon in Rules for Radicals have been recurring elements in political campaigns in recent years.
Democrats know something that is imperfect ideologically is better than nothing.
sheshe2
(83,633 posts)Nutrition
Poor nutrition is a central cause for poor health and development outcomes for women and children and a contributor to gender inequality through lowered productivity. More than 55 million children in Sub-Saharan Africa are affected by stunting and 46% of pregnant women are anemic. Poor breastfeeding practices mean that infants do not get the nutrition they require in the first several months of life.
rsz_ruth-oniango
Health
In Africa, more women (58%) than men live with HIV. Many women still lack access to quality health services and programs that will enable them to stay healthy.
Agriculture
Investments in sub-Saharan African agriculture are 11 times more effective at reducing poverty than investments in other sectors. As one half of the agriculture labor force, women make a critical contribution, yet lack adequate resources for food production (i.e extension services, financing, etc.).
70 of Africas top female scientists recently received the AWARD (African Women in Agricultural Research & Development) Fellowship and work hard to increase womens participation and productivity in agriculture. The AWARD Fellowship cultivates female leadership in agriculture through the mentoring and training of female agriculturalists in Africa to provide support to value chain research, gender responsiveness, and designing innovations for smallholder farmers. Recipients of the award have varied focus, including clean energy technology for smallholder farmers or empowering rural women through capacity building in agriculture extension, nutrition education, and livelihood programs.
More http://www.one.org/us/2015/03/19/leading-african-women-in-development/
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)when for years many men were fine with women and people of color make shit bank, as long as they did fine.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6401544
sheshe2
(83,633 posts)Thanks bettyellen for this response.
gains without the resentment of some men, it seems. Too fucking bad for them. They use the same line of reasoning to keep POC in line- wait on the back of the bus till ALL are lifted. And that meas men first!
Women of all classes are pushing for more opportunities and fairer pay- and they damned well deserve it after centuries of being treated as second class citizens. It's bullshit to make excuses to set aside their concerns- and not progressive in the least.
Done here.
Brava!
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)we're all still poor.
I doubt you know anything about it.
sheshe2
(83,633 posts)I am 62 effing years old. I have had to change jobs several times because the companies I worked for went out of business. I trained new hires. Men, that were paid more than I. So eff the fact that I am stupid and do not know squat.
I am in commission sales, minimum plus commission. Guess what? Brick and Mortar stores are no more. They use me for info and then order on line. We are dying, my paycheck is a joke. I took a 50% pay cut with my current job. I barely cover my rent, forget the utilities. We are going through the coldest winter ever right now. Utilities doubled over last year. Do not preach to me!
Your posts, IMHO are pretty cruel and nasty.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)through this thread if you want to see cruel and nasty -- it ain't me. it's *your* friends. and I didn't say *anything* like you are stupid and don't know squat.
I make minimum wage. that's a fact. I'm a woman. that's a fact. I'm dirt poor and will die dirt poor and nobody here speaks for me or those like me.
don't *you* preach to *me.*
sheshe2
(83,633 posts)I feel for what you are going through. Stay calm. Read my mail.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)for quite a while. With no pension and at this point no savings because of illness.
Unlike yourself, I'd bet.
So don't pretend you have some right to command authority over me by virtue of being female.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)continent worldwide. We have been for centuries! Waiting for men to share their wealth isn't working. You have to resign to life of dependency to get a share, and then it gets taken away. Women need equal opportunities and pay. We shouldn't be expected to settle for 25-30% less any longer. There is going to be no sudden raise in men's salaries that will put a dent in the disparity, and it must end.
Hearing that our salaries dragged them down is bullshit- most men didn't give it a thought when we made shit pay as long as they were doing well- the world was fine with us being under compensated. Now it's only MRA idiots who long for those days, because they want women to be dependent.
Those that see any women's gains as hurting men are foolish- screwing over 3/4 of the population (women and children) with that wrongheaded idea. Deeply impoverished children is the result of such narrow thinking.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)partners of poor women, I'll have to object.
at any rate, you're not telling me "how it is," just how *you* think it is, like anyone else with an opinion.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)Sainsbury, Ford & Rockefeller Foundations, etc.
It's not about women, it's about power and control.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)family and community. When poor men earn, they spend most their money on themselves (gambling, liquor, prostitutes ) So yes, providing women with the means to provide for themselves also lifts the entire community.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)though, middle class and rich men don't. And of course, women never waste money, whatever class they belong to.
What a bunch of crap. I can't believe this crap.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Programs were created to help the impoverished areas by having them participate and earn money working with the tour operators. Originally the money went to the men. They found in most cases no money was going to support their numerous wives and the children were not better fed, clothed of educated. They had to switch it up and work with the wives, and immediately they saw results in improving the standard of living for everyone on their group. They explained this in front of men of the tribe, who laughed and nodded in complete agreement when the guides said they'd been spending the money on nothing but moonshine.
They thought it was funny, freely admitted that it was so.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)you want to disempower poor men.
which is exactly what's going on. just as was done to the black community.
in the name of 'liberal/progressive' values.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)also. I thought helping boys and men was something you cared about- why are you ignoring what the experts say works best?
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)the policies advocated.
two income poor families = still poor.
two income upper middle class families = top 1%.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)1 income poor = still poor.
2 income poor = still poor.
1 income upper middle class = upper middle class.
2 income upper middle class = top 1%.
minimum wage female and male workers already have pay parity. that and $1 = a cup of coffee.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Sounds like this is a tough concept for you to swallow, perhaps you need to read up about what's actually working pulling people out of deep poverty globally.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)a bit I've read more than you on the topic. Enough to see through the glad-hand sunshine Trojan horse bull you see to put so much stock in.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It couldn't be easier to understand- but you seem to support the stays quo, eh?
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)yes, I'm a single, female minimum wage worker who supports the status quo. what bullshit.
I understand a hell of a lot better than you, I think.
"divisiveness is in the interest of the billionaire class."
and atomized 3rd-world female labor works cheap and causes fewer problems than its male peers.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)and it's succeeding.
but the upper class folks pushing it don't actually care about poor people; they have their own agendas.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)gains without the resentment of some men, it seems. Too fucking bad for them. They use the same line of reasoning to keep POC in line- wait on the back of the bus till ALL are lifted. And that meas men first!
Women of all classes are pushing for more opportunities and fairer pay- and they damned well deserve it after centuries of being treated as second class citizens. It's bullshit to make excuses to set aside their concerns- and not progressive in the least.
Done here.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)I doubt you know anything about what that means, which is why I doubt you know anything about what matters most to this demographic.
I also doubt you know much about ruling class techniques to pit different categories of workers against each other to keep them all down.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)The truth is, men were fine with us getting cheated, and now they blame us for this situation? Not my fault they didn't see lower salaries coming. Seeing it from a zero-sum perspective is foolish- it is true everyone should be paid more.
But women should see more gains, because they and their children who they support are currently suffering a great deal more. Fighting against a level playing field is wrong headed. We aren;t going to get parity unless we insist on it.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"experts" say anything. depends on who pays them..."
I use that line too when a study invalidates my biases...
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)when they don't need men to be their breadwinners anymore. There's no understanding of the fact that when women don't need the man's paycheck, the man must bring other things to the table, say, like respect, love, kindness, good parenting skills etc.
It's the same when we work on getting women out of poverty. Perhaps afterwards we should also work on getting men to understand that when the women don't need their paycheck anymore, they actually have to change too - because the women suddenly get choices when they get lifted out of poverty. Of course, that is also the reason so many men hate feminism - when women have choices, they don't choose men who hate feminism....
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)raccoon
(31,105 posts)ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)Poor men are total losers and wastrels apparently.
Unlike middle class or upper class men. Or women of any class.
This is bullshit, sexist, classist -- and racist -- crap.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And work on putting food in starving boys and girls bellies need to do what they can to save lives.
Amazing you pretend to care about this, when it appears your real concern is not keeping women down at the bottom of the ladder.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)at the bottom while elevating poor women?
I repeat: Poor single women = cheap docile labor for 1st world multinationals. To be used & thrown away and remain poor and atomized.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Why do you ignore this global reality? The stats bear out everywhere- from the USA to entire continents on the other side of the world.
Since when is equality for women divisive among anyone but the RW?
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)You'd rather they spend half their effort on less effective means to end poverty just to be fair to men? When ultimately, spending the effort on women benefit men also, because it benefits the families of women also.
In addition, the article states that in very poor communities, women are on average a lot poorer than their men compared to more affluent communities. So you would have the doctor leave the patient bleeding from an artery in order to spend equal time on the patient bleeding from a cut wound? I mean, the best would be if they were bleeding out at equal rates, so that the doctor could use equal time on both, but they're not. Women are poorer, and that is why we start with them.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)there is a sharing of rope so that we don't fight over places on the only rope around. That's what the article is about, not shoving you off your vaunted position of higher place on the greased rope.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)lot lower than yours; pretty near the bottom, in fact, as I'm a female minimum wage worker. pay parity with men in the same jobs I already have.
I'm one of the people you supposedly want to 'help'. Raising the minimum wage would help a lot more. Supporting the labor movement would help a lot more too.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Instead of arguing with each other as to how to achieve the same goal of equality.
Conservative women like Phyllis Schlafly or Michelle Bachmann should agree with other women who are liberals how to achieve success.
I can't stand to listen to conservative women who sound like they are right about their approach to equality.
Conservative women sound like they are living in some odd sort of "Stepford Wives" kind of world.
sheshe2
(83,633 posts)Women do need to empower women. I am embarrassed by the actions of the GOP women, the "Stepford Wives", so to speak of their white male GOP handlers. They are so brainwashed, I think they actually believe the crap they spew.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts). . . I hate it when women like Phyllis Schlafly espouse bullshit about women's equality.
She was one of the worst offenders, in my opinion.
Back in the 80s, it seemed like she was always on tv whenever women's issues were being discussed.
And she was always quoted in the media, saying crap about how wrong the feminists in the Democratic party were about their approach to equality.
She constantly argued that the conservative's approach to equality was better, but her arguments fell flat against the arguments that Betty Friedan made.
I imagine that she would argue that poverty isn't sexist, but it seems to me that you are on to something in this thread.
Maybe it's just because I have dreaming about you or something.
Maybe it's because I love you, or something like that.
I don't know.
But . . .
By Josie, I think you've got it!!
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Educate a man, and you educate a man. Educate a woman, and you educate a family. In very economically depressed societies, they are often very patriarchal, and that means that child rearing is women's work. When the women are educated, not only do they start protesting this, but they also teach any children they do have what they know. Any man who would want to help raise their children is ridiculed for doing women's work - which only feminism will change. Empowering women is good both for goose and gander.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)In particular, this:
"If all women could access the care, commodities and services recommended by the World Health Organization (WHO), maternal deaths would drop by 67%, and newborn deaths would fall by 77%."
Time for a GLOBAL Universal Health Care movement, methinks.