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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre there any Hillary supporters who will refuse to vote for certain Democrats in November 2016?
Because I'm a Hillary supporter and I would be more than happy to vote for any Democrat who beats her in the primary over the Republican. I've seen non-Hillary supporters say they won't vote for Hillary in November 2016 if she wins the nomination, which I find absolutely mind-boggling. What I have never seen is a Hillary supporter saying that they might not vote Democratic in November 2016 if the Democratic candidate is not Hillary, and I was wondering whether such people existed.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)or who have declared their intent to vote for her if she is the nominee (like me) always vote for the Democrat in every race. They're the core of the Democratic Party, and I consider them to be the real base of the party.
Those who declare that they won't vote for Hillary, even if she is the candidate in the general election are not the base of the Democratic Party. They may be the base of something, but it's not the party. Democrats vote for Democrats. You can count on them to do so. Those who don't vote or who vote for third party candidates should not refer to themselves as Democrats. They have to right to vote as they choose, but there is a Democratic Party. Its members vote for Democrats, except in very, very rare situations.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)should vote for someone other than Hillary in the primary.
Come the general, with Hillary, you get Hillary voters.
Without her, you get ALL the lefty voters PLUS the Hillary voters.
Want to win? Choose someone else.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)but would vote for the Republican over (for example) Bernie Sanders.
cali
(114,904 posts)Hillary supporters are convinced she'll be the nominee.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And I don't want a "coronation". I want a vigorous, contested primary. And I will vote for whoever wins that primary.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)I am a big Hillary supporter and will vote for whoever get's the Democratic nomination.
I have also stated over & over that I want to see a good spirited debate among all Democrats that want to seek the nomination & may the best person win.
For me at least, could I be any clearer?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Remember that 3rd way, based on a dialectic of social liberalism and economic conservatism.
It isn't traditional. It's the thing that, thanks to it's reliance on triangulation, seems to be adrift.
It's been given a chance, and although it's chance was tempered by the ugly reality of a great depression, it seems to be delivering the most for folks who benefit from economic conservatism.
The 'any democrat is better than an r' is irrational. It's obviously a form of chauvinism intended to stop criticism and provide blanket apology.
It begs us to be unthinking, uncritical political sycophants which can be taken for granted in quite Rahmwellian ways.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)worry about other scenarios. Besides, if the republican wins, its the next closest thing to hillary. So again, they dont need to worry much
Marr
(20,317 posts)pitch is the idea that there is a whole class of voters who will not vote Democratic unless they get Hillary, or someone as far right as she is.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)in part it could be psychological projection...I think you'll do X because if it was me I would do X.
It's also a possibility that among the 3rd-way there are people who realize their pragmatism about economic conservatism is stretching unity to near breaking. Consequently, the need to reinforce by preemptive calls for unity.