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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI want the Democratic nominee for President to win in November 2016.
Period.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and I'm not talking of the gop.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)and not personality based debate begin.
Issues over personality, or you are playing the con and media game of distraction and frustration because there is never a winner in a personality war. And nothing gets done.
Me first.
The next Democratic President obviously has to build on the specific and well detailed economic reforms either proposed or implemented by the Democratic Party current President.
Warren and Sanders have excellent ideas on economic reform that President Obama also supports, so all primary candidates must give details of those reforms and explain why they agree or disagree with those reforms.
We can then respectfully VOTE in the primary, and VOTE like your life depended on it in the general in support of the Nominated Candidate.
android fan
(214 posts)even if I have to get very very very very drunk to vote for Hillary, I'll do it.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)But don't drive, please.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)It's time to stick with the issues and the evidence.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)period
we will have the house and senate back
stop the in fighting now and take the war to those who wish to continue to ruin this country.....batshit crazy conservatives
cali
(114,904 posts)and frankly, I think 2 women on a ticket has a very small chance of being a winning ticket.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)and predicted his election and re-election at THE SAME time. Same type of people said ABSOLUTELY NO WAY.....well, FYI....
women in power don't intimidate democrats, progressives or liberals...and the 10-15% in the middle between us and conservative crazy aren't fearful either
slam dunk, NO CONTEST
Reter
(2,188 posts)Two women on the ticket won't happen until one gets elected first. As for your prediction, it was pretty obvious to me in 2004 at the DNC that he would quickly run, as the establishment could not stop praising him.
cali
(114,904 posts)there's a record of that on DU.
So FAIL. And there is no way Hillary will ask Warren to be be her VP. Much more likely is Castro.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Hispanic half...Rubio does not count. It is possible a natural Spanish-speaking/bilingual on the ticket would really bring out the Hispanic vote...enough to make the difference. We've never had a candidate who could speak directly to the largest minority. It's also why the Rs are willing to shut things down over immigration.
THE POTENTIAL OF THE HISPANIC VOTE
Hispanics have become the racial or ethnic minority with the greatest demographic concentration in the United States. They represent 15.5 percent of the countrys total inhabitants, even more than the African American population. Potential Hispanic voters make up 8.9 percent of the American electorate, which is equivalent to 9.2 million possible votes The Latino community is exhibiting the fastest growth among American ethnic minorities: a rate of 3.3 percent. At 27 years of age, they are also younger than the rest of the Americans; the average age of the countrys general population is 36.6. About 30 percent of Hispanics are younger than 18, which has led many to believe that the future of the United States is Hispanic. These data show that, within five years, one out of every four children between 5 and 9 years of age will be Hispanic, and in a decade, 25 percent of children between the ages of 10 and 14 will be.
......Potential Hispanic voters make up 8.9 percent of the American electorate, which is equivalent to 9.2 million possible votes.
Abstention also plays a role among Latinos The difference between the total number of Hispanics in the country and those that are registered to vote can be explained by the fact that the majority are immigrants that arrived without documents, they lack citizenship, they havent yet reached the voting age or they havent enrolled in the electoral registry.
Abstention also plays a role among Latinos. In 2004, the Hispanic population that could vote in the presidential election was 7 percent of the electoral registry. However, only 18 percent exercised that right. In other words, 82 percent of the registered Hispanics did not vote. In contrast, 51 percent of the white population went to the polls, while the black communitys participation was 39 percent.
- See more at: http://english.safe-democracy.org/2008/09/11/the-largest-minority-counts-in-the-united-states/#sthash.HU0gmNs1.dpuf
If Warren doesn't run, stay in the Senate
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)........
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I don't love Bill Clinton.
Reter
(2,188 posts)n/t
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)warren will not seek 2016 nomination as it would be 100% certain win for conservatives in the general as she knows...the 100% sure way to the WH is 4 years as hillary's VP, hillary in 2020, retiring and turning the next 8 years over to warren....any commonsense approach makes this strategy
screw warren idealism at this time, as it guarantees losing
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)see to it
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)most is an undivided Democratic Party.
cali
(114,904 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)so more bush would be better with his neocon circle?
good god, get some sense
great white snark
(2,646 posts)Any Dem is better than a Repub should be a given. Like it or not (your abundance of OP's tells me you're a "not" Democrats settle things through a primary process. We support our party's nominee because they are best to lead the country not because they are better than a Republican.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Period
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)and let batshit crazy conservatives control everything?
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)And after he turned to actually be a centrist, we really don't want one now.
Warren would win in a landslide if she changes her mind.
Hillary will lose us the GE.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)The SCOTUS is too important
Scuba
(53,475 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)I don't think she can win the general.
mcar
(42,372 posts)I will support the Democratic whoever s/he is.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)No further discussion necessary.
Rex
(65,616 posts)To bad someone tried to hijack it from the beginning. Oh well, some just cannot play nice I guess. Some have to be the winner in everything. At least you tried Huck...I give you a K&R for trying!
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)I'm not going to tag you, but...
Rex
(65,616 posts)I'm just glad to know a lot of people are all in the same boat - we vote for the primary candidate. I really thought this went without saying. IMO, the people here with crossed arms will be pulling the D lever just not admitting to it.
I could beat people over the head with, 'so you would let Satan into office first, before voting for your party' but I won't. That is not cool and I respect people that want options and a primary. I just don't see any other viable candidate right now. That can change in a years time, but HRC is the one to beat. It is dishonest to pretend she is not imo.
I will K&R any thread from now on that is about unity in the party.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)I know the damage that can be done. We're still living with it.
Cheers! Indeed!