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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsObama approval among liberal Dems, week ending April 29: 88%.
Among Democrats as a whole, 83%. Independents, 45%. Republicans, 13%. Approval among whites is 38%, among non-whites it's 73%. Approval is pretty much even between men (46) and women (50). Approval among those 18 to 29 is 60%, compared to 46-47 among those 30 to 64. Geographically, it's pretty much even, varying only from 47% approval in the west and south to 50% in the east.
Bear in mind this is the WEEKLY numbers, which have Obama's approval/disapproval at 48/46, not the DAILY numbers which have him at 51/43. So things have improved since this snapshot was taken. I'm sure the anniversary of Bin Laden getting his ticket punched probably didn't hurt.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx
treestar
(82,383 posts)No surprise.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)"And we're not going to burden our speculation with facts."
The stats now are pretty close to exactly what they were circa the 2008 election, actually.
Rex
(65,616 posts)More the reason I think our POTUS is heading for his second term.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)Gallup circa December 2008 had him at 88% of liberal Dems, and the actual election results had him winning 43% of white voters. So he's holding with liberals, slipping a little bit with white voters--but there's the inherent problem of comparing approval to actual voting, since there's always a certain portion of people who will gripe and grumble but in the end vote for who they perceive as the least bad choice.
Rex
(65,616 posts)True, despite all the criticism and some of it admittedly Obama-bashing will turn right around and vote for him again.
I like the fact that he has had rock solid support for those 4 years from liberals.
Excellent news.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Look, this here poll says so. It must be true.
Rex
(65,616 posts).
Rex
(65,616 posts)Liberals got his back.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)Lionessa
(3,894 posts)some I've met that claim to be liberal, I would consider Bluedogs.
#2 Comparatively, Obama is looking like the only rational choice which probably effects one's approval rating, sort of as we've seen with Romney's support amongst the wingnuts who are now managing to seem more approving than they did even last week.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)That the more liberal you are, the more likely you are to support Obama. Even among Democrats, his support drops off to 79% among moderates, and 73% among conservative Democrats, while he gets 26% from liberal or moderate Republicans and 10% from conservative Republicans.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)to suggest that since it is "self-indentified" liberals, it only means that many people who support Obama claim to be liberal, and may even believe themselves to be, but doesn't really assure that they are in fact traditionally "liberal".
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Let's see how far we can stretch this term...
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)I much prefer it over "progressive" which I see as kind of an attempt to squirm out of saying that one is a liberal.
BumRushDaShow
(127,331 posts)Their propaganda machines may have shifted but the hard core base ain't buying it.
PA's primary only had a 20% turnout, which is remarkable because Presidential election years usually get us up in the 40s, with high-40s for strong primary contests.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Besides the difficulty with categorizing who might be considered a "liberal," there's also the problem with what "approve" might mean. Does it mean "approval" of each and every program and policy? Is it "approval" over against some hypothetical non-existent Republican administration? Or "approval" against the possibility, however unlikely, of a Romney administration?
The number just gets thrown out there without too much else, and it seems to be brandished as a hedge or a warning against voicing too much opposition to the administration, or to paint such opposition as "outside" where all the kool kidz are, which seems to be a realm where trimming the Constitution to fit this year's fashion is an honorable and ongoing activity.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)It's like arguing what the meaning of "is" is. Some people here are so desperate to deny the fact that the vastly overwhelming majority of liberals do not share their unrealistic and propaganda-based views about the President and the Democrats.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But I know I'm not one of the kool kidz; I just point out that "this" might not be what the kool kidz think it is, either. I still don't approve of summary executions and indiscriminate missile launch blanket reprisals, and I think I stand on pretty firm ground as an American who still trusts our Constitution above any personality cults of the 88%. I remember when George W. Bush's approval ratings were at 90%, and I wasn't one of the kool kidz then, either.
lamp_shade
(14,796 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)no longer identify themselves as Democrats? (I canavased for and voted for Obama even though I have been an independent for years. You have to also factor in that these polls don't reach people with unlisted cell phones. (Which includes everyone I know except my mom.) You have to factor in that though these respondents consider themselves "liberal", what they know about Obama's presidency they get from the nightly news or CNN.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)btw ... I'm an Obama supporter with an unlisted cell phone. So these polls apparently don't include me, my wife, or my son ... all, Obama supporters.
And last ... when you use a phrase like "these respondents consider themselves liberal" ... what you just said is that YOU get to judge whether or not they ARE actually liberal. Which is kind of like when the far right wing tries to decide who the "Real Christians" are.
You, like them, have a purity test. Weird.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)now did I?
Using only land line phones for a poll is going to effect the poll results. No doubt about that.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)I learned that right here on DU. So, I checked Gallup's site and there it is...they poll cell phones. They haven't called me, yet. I'm one of those Liberal Democrats that approves of our President, along with my husband, so we'd just tic that percentage up a billionth or sumthin'.
I don't know the technicalities of Gallup's cell phone polling. It could be if you are on the "Do Not Call" list they wouldn't have access to your number.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...you have to re"join" every year(?) or so. I forgot not too long ago and was bombarded with freakin' insurance calls. The husband will get polled, but only because he forwards his business phone to his cell. But Gallup hasn't called, just the GOP...which is hilarious. He's left some tasty comments.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)I don't get spam calls.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...until "it" happened. That first call asking me if I wanted my loved ones to suffer after I died. I couldn't get online fast enough to rejoin DoNotCall. I'm pretty sure I was mumbling unique expletives while I was doing so. But, there's a "waiting period", so I had to endure those calls for a few days. I developed a case of the "get off my lawn"s. I may have made a few of them cry.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)I don't think I'll do it just yet though. Gallop might call.
progressoid
(49,827 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...with the "Improvement Act", because it absolutely used to expire. 2007? Damn. I swear it wasn't that long ago. But, yeah...I guess that is about right.
Good to know they changed it, but now I feel older than I did 15 minutes ago.
progressoid
(49,827 posts)Drives me CRAZY.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)It's a serious pain in the ass, but it works.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)In fact, statistics show that those who identify themselves as simply "liberals" and not liberal Democrats are in fact more conservative than liberal Democrats.
But by all means, please keep trying to spin away the fact that the overwhelming majority of liberals support the President and the job he's doing.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)A few numbers to back up your wild speculation would be nice. Link??? Or is this just "a feeling"?
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)to do the crazy dance?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)The stuff you've made up in your head doesn't qualify as thoughtful political analysis, especially since your specious argument was already used on me once this week. Is a little proof too much to ask? And just so you know, is no substitute for a solid rebuttal and/or proof. Just so you know.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Too bad I don't remember it. Just a guess... were there lots of ?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)I can't say I respect it, but I certainly admire your gumption.
I'll be over here ---------->>>>>> waiting for a link about those throngs of liberal dems who now identify as "independents". Shouldn't be hard to find if it's true, right? Proof? Any proof, except that which you've made up in your head, will suffice.
Thanks in advance.
jillan
(39,451 posts)just1voice
(1,362 posts)Gallup is a repuke propaganda firm, their numbers are not credible regardless of what the numbers are.
Inuca
(8,945 posts)TheWraith
(24,331 posts)Prior to trying to sanitize it to pretend like one isn't a liberal.
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