So if they knew where Bin Laden was because of torture,

[JDPriestly]

then when did they learn where he was?

And if they learned where he was back when they were torturing people, why didn't they take him out then?

If they knew where he was, did they intercept and listen in on his communications and read his e-mail and other mail?

If so, didn't they pretty much know where Al Qaeda was and what it was doing?

And if they did know, why didn't they just destroy Al Qaeda and stop terrifying Americans about the group's plans?

On the other hand,

If they didn't know where Bin Laden was, doesn't it mean that their claims that they found out where Bin Laden was thanks to torture are false?

And if they really didn't know where he was, how come Obama found him?

And, yet again,

Is is possible that Bush made a deal with someone not to go after Bin Laden in exchange for ??????

Or is it more likely that the Bush administration really couldn't find Bin Laden, that the torture was useless and that the Bushies are just lying (again).

Something does not make sense here as I think about the supposed facts.

[Fumesucker]

1. See, you are part of the reality based community, you have no chance of understanding these people..

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."[

[Wait Wut]

2. You ask too many questions.

You have successfully been denied membership in the GOP.

[applegrove]

3. They found bin Laden's courriour some other way.

[spanone]

4. because they are lying.

[malaise]

5. They didn't know shit

That is all