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kpete

(71,959 posts)
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:21 PM May 2012

You Can Be Fired for a Facebook “Like”

If you want to keep your job, don’t “like” someone on Facebook who is an opponent of your boss. In a decision that affects free expression on social media, a federal judge ruled that there’s no First Amendment protection for a one-click Facebook like.

“It is the Court’s conclusion that merely “liking” a Facebook page is insufficient speech to merit constitutional protection,” wrote federal trial judge Raymond A. Jackson of Norfolk, VA.

The candidate in question — B.J. Roberts, Sheriff of Hampton, Virginia — cited a budget squeeze when he fired Bobby Bland and four cohorts, who took to the court crying free speech foul over Facebook. The ex-employees of Roberts’ election campaign said the sheriff knew they “liked” his opponent’s Facebook page, prompting Roberts to let them go once he won.

Bland and friends also attended Roberts’ opponents cookout, but the court decided that Roberts didn’t know about that or the bumper sticker – which would be protected under the First Amendment.

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DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
1. Does "speech" need to contain a certain number of words before it's judged
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:25 PM
May 2012

as free speech, or not free speech? I'm not understanding why "insufficient speech" was used by the court as a rationale for not protecting that speech.

Is the converse true? Can I now yell "fire" in a crowded theater that isn't on fire, since it's only one word?

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
5. Yup.
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:33 PM
May 2012

They can email me, call me, text me, and in extreme cases actually visit me.

That's enough for me.

Initech

(100,034 posts)
13. Yeah the last thing I want is to get fired for liking the wrong like.
Thu May 3, 2012, 08:50 PM
May 2012

Facebook = the death of privacy.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
9. Same here.
Thu May 3, 2012, 07:17 PM
May 2012

I have a few friends/coworkers that maintain a Facebook page, and on several occasions, I was made aware of/shown pictures that had been posted that could have easily resulted in disciplinary action (suspended/fired), if the powers that be had seen them.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
3. Idiot decision by the Judge
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:31 PM
May 2012

What if I click 'Like' on the page for the local synagogue, or a Muslim or Catholic group? Is that now unprotected speech?

What if the 'Like' button said instead, 'I kind of agree with or find this item interesting enough to let my friends know about it,' would that make any difference?

What if the 'one click' speech is for a poll about one's ancestral background?

Dumbass judge...

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
19. Listen very carefully...
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:32 PM
May 2012

EVERYTHING YOU DO, WRITE, AND INTERACT WITH ON FACEBOOK BELONGS TO FACEBOOK.

You have no expectation of privacy for even looking at a facebook page. It can be tracked, used, bought, sold, and utilized in any way Facebook sees fit, and they do so with a vengeance. The Judge is not the dumbass in this case. The dumbasses are everybody that exchanges their rights for the thrill of writing messages back and forth with people whom you didn't care enough about to stay in contact with or with whom you wouldn't even talk to IRL.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
4. "Like" on FB can be ambiguous.
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:31 PM
May 2012

It could simply mean that you want to follow that page or that you recommend that your friends look at it. It doesn't necessarily mean that you literally like someone or something.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
17. Which is why "like" was an idiotic word to choose.
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:20 PM
May 2012

It sounds like an endorsement when all you might mean is that this subject might be worth some attention.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
7. Yeah the problem was liking a facebook page not
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:37 PM
May 2012

Last edited Thu May 3, 2012, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

liking the opponents facebook page and attending a cookout for the opponent while employed by the other candidates election organization!

WOW I am quite surprised<SARCASM>!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
10. While still a school district employee in a state that banned Marriage Equality,
Thu May 3, 2012, 07:31 PM
May 2012

I not only "liked" a Facebook Gay Marriage in another state (my native state), I wrote emails to that state's representatives advocating my support of their votes for equality.

If the school district where I worked didn't like that, tough s-----. Bullying is not acceptable, for students, or STAFF.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. So? You can be locked in a room to die for 5 days w no water for smoking pot
Thu May 3, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/05/uc-san-diego-student-dea-jail-outrage.html

The DEA said Chong told agents he had been at the house that was raided "to get high with his friends"


Basically, your tax dollars are being used to wage a campaign of wholesale extermination against anyone caught smoking a joint. the DEA says that whatever they did to this guy is fine, since he was smoking pot at a party. They could have killed him. Tough shit, dude!

Welcome to America, 2012, and the insanity that is the drug war.

Iris

(15,648 posts)
16. Um...then we have no free speech
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:19 PM
May 2012

A "like" is one of the smallest forms of expression a person can make.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
18. Let me be a little more succinct, If you want to maintain any semblance
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:23 PM
May 2012

of privacy and security, DON'T DO FACEBOOK, period".

Thanks you for your time. K&R

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
20. Virginia is a "fire-at-will" state.
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:46 PM
May 2012

this boss didn't need any reason to fire them; he could do it for whatever reason he felt like. So these idiots don't have a case to stand on.

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