I was just reading about a "9-11 Truther..."

[Archae]

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One that is well-respected in many liberal circles.

Why do they still exist?

[Cleita]

1. I know a couple of them in real life.

One is a liberal and the other is a conservative, but on this they agree.

[patricia92243]

2. What is a 9-11 Truther???

[Kelvin Mace]

3. A person who believes that the 9/11 attacks

were an inside job, or a false flag operation.

[Archae]

7. The beliefs of these "Truthers" goes off the deep end, frequently.

"Jews were warned to stay out of the WTC."

"They weren't airliners, they were missiles disguised by holograms."

"The towers were brought down by explosives."

"It was a truck bomb at the Pentagon."

And so on...

[djean111]

4. Because we all are allowed to believe anything we damn well please?

I am not a 9-11 truther, but then again, I don't believe much of anything our government tells me, either.
Why does that bother you so much? Authoritarian? Truthers of any sort are not hurting anyone, as far as I can tell.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

5. Because they have questions about what exactly happened that day. They saw the delay

in having an investigation that, when it did finally occur, was a farce. They wonder how a building that was not hit by a plane collapsed later in the day. They have reason not to trust the administration that conducted the post-9/11 investigation, produced the "official" report, and used the event as an excuse to invade a country that was not involved while allowing one that was, Saudi Arabia, to get away with their part in it.

I could go on, but no one gives a shit.

[ProfessorGAC]

11. You're Right

Well, at least the last sentence.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

13. To quote myself: "...no one gives a shit." Everyone should just stop

bringing up 9/11. All any of us needs to know is that shrubco told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and that the 'official story' of 9/11 is the final and truthful word and statement on the matter.

Now, move on to other more important stuff.

[Politicalboi]

26. 100% right

Asking serious questions about 9/11 is somehow wrong to these people. Just because they don't care what really happened is no reason to mock others who really do care. The Pentagon is our biggest DEFENSE building, but yet is able to get attacked 40 minutes after the second tower. We were told NOT to blame ANYONE and go shopping. And the only evidence they have to show us at the Pentagon is a blurry video. This from our TRILLION dollar defense dept.

But the yahoo's who call us truthers don't care about science or facts. They're convinced Bush told them the truth.

[arcane1]

27. Being skeptical gets equated with thinking aliens or lasers brought the towers down

It's a good way to discourage people from being skeptical: connect honest questions to lunatic-fringe conspiracy nuts.

[Nye Bevan]

6. Because some people find conspiracy theories to be so much FUN.

[mcranor]

8. What does 9-11 Truther mean to you?

A lot of people still believe or suspect that some powerful US 'interests' might've had foreknowledge, or even tangential involvement in the plot. Are they all 'truthers'? (It is a pejorative label, right?)

[Cooley Hurd]

9. I'm a LIHOPer...

The Bush admin was repeatedly warned that something big was coming down the pike and they did NOTHING. Maybe gross negligence, but equally likely they "let it happen on purpose" because they believed it would bolster their (eventual) argument for invading Iraq.

The only 9/11 "truth" that hasn't been ferreted out fully is how the Bush Admin protected Saudi Arabia in the aftermath of 9/11. The ommission was SO apparent that Max Cleland (hardly a kook) quit the 9/11 commission because the Bush Admin refused to come clean about SA's involvement...

[ProfessorGAC]

16. I'm Lean More To Occam

Gross incompetence and hubris. They saw the PDB. They didn't believe anyone would actually attack the US, especially with the big tough Bush gang in power. They were wrong. People died.

No further speculation required with that approach, and not letting the Bush administration off the hook in any way.

It is equally damning to be that ignorant and incompetent.

[arcane1]

28. I lean that way, except for the fact that Bush and crew weren't in DC

It seems awfully coincidental that they get an early August warning, and then Bush spends the next 4 weeks "on vacation"

[Historic NY]

10. A lot of them mention the airport near me...

as being a complicit part of the whole thing....most based on crazy notions about the place.

They got drones being sent from here and a whole host of stuff.

[valerief]

12. Buh-bye forever.

[closeupready]

21. +1. Hadn't even seen your post before posting the same thing myself below.

[snooper2]

22. where are you going?

[Javaman]

14. here you go...have fun...

[G_j]

15. Isn't this the wrong forum?

[LanternWaste]

17. We look forward to the day when all people everywhere believe as you do.

We look forward to the day when all people everywhere believe as you do, and hold opinions little more than a few degrees off yours.

Though no doubt, we'll soon find another way to feel more clever about ourselves at the expense of others when that day finally arrives...

[NCTraveler]

18. They were truthers on day one.

Without evidence at all. They literally started appearing on day one. Their "evidence" has been beyond debunked. Those real truthers are few and far between at this point. Fact is that they are anti-science. They have proven it over and over again. They determined what really happened, then looked for information to back them up. That in itself will lead one down the wrong path almost every single time. It is how Fox News reports.

You are right that their numbers and presence have greatly diminished. Many of the initial truthers were not stupid people. There were many reasons to question motives at the time. That coupled with all of the misinformation made some form of conspiracy fairly easy to believe. In the end, that group settled on the facts available and within somewhat short order became one of those calling the truthers stupid.

[morningglory]

19. You have to think when the Kochs and many others such as Russia

Kochs and many others such as Russia are very upset about low oil prices. After the kerfuffle in Yemen (I have not been watching the news. Pardon my ignorance) oil prices went down. As Molly Ivins said if you are not paranoid, you are just not paying attention.

[closeupready]

20. Now I remember why I had you and your divisiveness on ignore, so thanks for the thread!

and goodbye!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

23. What is the name of the "well-respected liberal"? nt

[frylock]

24. what's your take on Saudi Arabia's involvment?

[Ichingcarpenter]

25. They found my passport in perfect condition after concrete turned to dust

and fires from furniture melted steel beams that lasted for days........

but they found my passport............thanks

signed


Satam al-Suqami.

[NuclearDem]

29. Because our science education in this country sucks.

[MineralMan]

30. Locking.

I suggest the Creative Speculation for this. 9/11 truther topics belong there.