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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:39 PM Mar 2015

WallStreet’s POLITICAL SHAKEDOWN:We’ll Stop Funding Dems if Elizabeth Warren won’t SIT DOWN & SHUTUP


"...Top banks consider cutting off Dems if the party won't rein in party progressives.."

"....For Democratic neoliberals who have proven all too eager to forge an unholy alliance with the malefactors of great wealth, this Wall Street shakedown will only redouble their commitment to keep the financial powers-that-be placated..."





If ever you doubted that our obscene campaign finance regime constitutes a form of legalized bribery, consider this: Reuters reports today that officials at top Wall Street banks recently convened to discuss how they could convince Democrats “to soften their party’s tone” toward the financial industry, and among the options now under consideration is halting campaign donations to Senate Democrats unless they rein in progressive populists like Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Sherrod Brown (D-OH). The banks represented at the Washington meeting included Citigroup, JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America, according to the report, and though the idea of withholding campaign contributions did not arise at that gathering, it has since been floated in conversations among representatives from the banks. While the action would only be taken against Senate Democrats, the report states that Democrats are fretting about larger repercussions:

The amount of money at stake, a maximum of $15,000 per bank, means the gesture is symbolic rather than material

Moreover, banks’ hostility toward Warren, who is not a presidential candidate, will not have a direct impact on the presumed Democratic front runner in the White House race, Hillary Clinton. That’s because their fund-raising groups focus on congressional races rather than the presidential election

Still, political strategists say Clinton could struggle to raise money among Wall Street financiers who worry that Democrats are becoming less business friendl

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-usa-election-banks-idUSKBN0MN0BV20150327?wpmm=1&feedName=politicsNews&feedType=RSS&wpisrc=nl_wonk


Citigroup, Reuters notes, has already chosen not to contribute to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee “over concerns that Senate Democrats could give Warren and lawmakers who share her views more power,” while JPMorgan has pared back its donations. Goldman Sachs already sent the DSCC its $15,000 check, while Bank of America has yet to donate. There are two salient points to be made here: First, while only the most naive mind could consider it surprising, that Democrats are clutching their pearls over a possible drought of Wall Street funds underscores how poisoned our campaign finance system has become, and it speaks volumes about the plutocratic capture of American politics. Moreover, the report further puts the lie to Chief Justice John Roberts’ apparently straight-faced assertion, writing his opinion in the Citizens United case, that campaign contributions are not intended to influence lawmakers’ official duties.

“Spending large sums of money in connection with elections, but not in connection with an effort to control the exercise of an officeholder’s official duties, does not give rise to such quid pro quo corruption,” Roberts wrote. “Nor does the possibility that an individual who spends large sums may garner ‘influence over or access to’ elected officials or political parties.”

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-536_e1pf.pdf


Yet here we have an industry that may well cut off a political party if it does not jettison proposals like breaking up “Too Big To Fail” institutions, reinstating the Glass-Steagall law separating commercial and investment banking, and reining in unscrupulous speculation. These proposals have galvanized the Warren wing of the Democratic Party, which may be emboldened but is far from dominant. Look no further than Wall Street’s affinity for the party’s likely presidential nominee, or the identity of the Democrats’ potential next leader in the Senate, a top recipient of financial industry contributions.




cont'

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/27/wall_streets_political_shakedown_well_stop_funding_dems_if_elizabeth_warren_wont_sit_down_and_shut_up/
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WallStreet’s POLITICAL SHAKEDOWN:We’ll Stop Funding Dems if Elizabeth Warren won’t SIT DOWN & SHUTUP (Original Post) Segami Mar 2015 OP
There couldn't be better publicity against banks! marym625 Mar 2015 #1
HRC will never fight for the people. Vincardog Mar 2015 #6
Oh no doubt marym625 Mar 2015 #12
Oh silly ...she will fight for the new middle class ...which is bankers and Wall Street brokers. L0oniX Mar 2015 #14
This. hifiguy Mar 2015 #18
That should be my pat response to all pro Hillary posts: Sorry ...I'm not in that club. L0oniX Mar 2015 #21
Feel free to use when necessary and appropriate! hifiguy Mar 2015 #23
At least it will give the pro Hillary Goldman oligarchy alert crew something to do. L0oniX Mar 2015 #24
never stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #39
and here come the hil haters azureblue Mar 2015 #42
How about you Hill Lovers give us a reason to vote for her? She can beat other pugs is not one. Vincardog Mar 2015 #44
Why not ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #47
Because I don't want to vote for a republican. Vincardog Mar 2015 #63
A vote for HRC wouldn't be a vote for a republican ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #74
"a vote for anyone other than (would be a vote for a republican)" Veilex Mar 2015 #84
I'm sorry if I was unclear ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #85
Perhaps I was unclear "She can beat OTHER pugs is not one" because she is a pug. She is clearly Vincardog Mar 2015 #90
I have answered ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #93
The lesser of the two evils is STILL EVIL. You can't give 1 reason to vote for her. It says a lot Vincardog Mar 2015 #94
You have gave you the same reason ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #95
"a comment in context would render your comment out of place" - I would happily make a retraction.. Veilex Mar 2015 #92
The Question Is Yallow Mar 2015 #81
Of course "winning" is more important. Yeah we win. More important that reestablishing our rhett o rick Mar 2015 #73
I agree ... Yes, we do need change ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #76
I recognize that some prefer to boil slowly. I don't agree. I see that we are being rhett o rick Mar 2015 #77
So rather than the "slow boil", you prefer the "quick burn"? {sigh} ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #78
I would rather take the risk of the "quick burn" or liberty than bow down to the system rhett o rick Mar 2015 #80
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #82
" Gawd you guys are not only shrill and hysterical, you never offer a viable alternative" DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #54
+1,000 Scuba Mar 2015 #55
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Phlem Mar 2015 #56
So if that's true why don't you give us a substantive reason to support H. Clinton. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #72
If anything she will get a flood of money from them to make sure Warren doesn't have a chance. L0oniX Mar 2015 #16
You're probably right marym625 Mar 2015 #26
Yep, that's how it works. zeemike Mar 2015 #31
Exactly! Fairgo Mar 2015 #50
OK, does that mean that small contributors like us need to step up and contribute more money? NBachers Mar 2015 #2
yes but they dont give that much to dems Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author johnnyreb Mar 2015 #4
If he monied elite don't stop corrupting our elections we should publicly fund them, and OUTLAW Vincardog Mar 2015 #5
1st they laugh at you ..... Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #8
Ain't it the truth. They walked right into that metaphor. closeupready Mar 2015 #25
negotiations the wall street way Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #9
LMFAO ...spewing over my keyboard. Damn it ...you owe me a new red back light keyboard. L0oniX Mar 2015 #11
i remember when that came out and have never forgot it Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #17
I remember buying that issue of the Lampoon when I was 16. hifiguy Mar 2015 #19
yea me too Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #20
Too damn bad P. J. O'Rourke became a douche nozzle republican. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #65
Beautiful turbinetree Mar 2015 #43
Hard to decide who is more of an enemy of the common people, Shitigroup, SkankofAmerica, HellsCargo L0oniX Mar 2015 #10
After their bailout by us taxpayers we should have thrown the crooks in jail! How dare them to speak B Calm Mar 2015 #13
K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #15
Hey banksters, hifiguy Mar 2015 #22
She's answered them on Twitter! Liberalynn Mar 2015 #27
Warren/Sanders 2016 ybbor Mar 2015 #40
Check in with Michael Lewis (The Big Short). SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2015 #28
WallStreet’s POLITICAL SHAKEDOWN:We’ll Stop Funding Dems if Elizabeth Warren won’t SIT DOWN & SHUTUP The CCC Mar 2015 #29
They just admitted to The Wizard Mar 2015 #30
Why do we need $$$ to make our candidate the winner? erronis Mar 2015 #32
K & R Thespian2 Mar 2015 #33
the quest for $ because "we need to win this" has left the party completely open: patrons MisterP Mar 2015 #34
Wall Street tries to depict her as angry or anti-business for promoting sound policy. pa28 Mar 2015 #35
Good. Maybe then the Democrats that have been getting money from the banks will start liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #36
Hopefully including HRC. No $$$ for Hillary? 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #86
could be great publicity if any corporate media would carry the story rurallib Mar 2015 #37
Churches, insurance & oil Companies and financial institutions banned from political activism Sheepshank Mar 2015 #38
This turbinetree Mar 2015 #41
+100 nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #87
Now is the time to yell louder.... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2015 #45
This was posted earlier this morning in General already cstanleytech Mar 2015 #46
And this is a surprise because? Android3.14 Mar 2015 #48
Good - it's about time the illusion is dropped. nt TBF Mar 2015 #49
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #51
I think these banksters have just cut their own throats. raven mad Mar 2015 #52
OF course DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #53
A conspiracy? DeSwiss Mar 2015 #57
It wouldn't make any difference if they weren't the party. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2015 #58
Ok then; It's on! Populist_Prole Mar 2015 #59
If Dem leadership were smart, they'd publicly say F*** You to the banks CanonRay Mar 2015 #60
Will HRC say F*ck you to banksters too? 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #88
I like the way she is full finger pointing... the_sly_pig Mar 2015 #61
I think I may be in love with a married woman. Zorra Mar 2015 #62
The more they hate her, the better she's doing nikto Mar 2015 #64
Madam President. Nt Fearless Mar 2015 #66
Breath-taking arrogance and hubris malaise Mar 2015 #67
Thanks Wall Street You really made voting even easier Hey Dems take Wall Street Money and You dont anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #68
FUCK YOU, WALLSTREET!! you gawdamned suit and tie wearing muthafuckas!! just fuck right off. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #69
first line of OP says it all heaven05 Mar 2015 #70
So basically we the people are being threatened by corporations SusanCalvin Mar 2015 #71
Does this mean Hillary's hedgefund son in law Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #75
One question why is Reuters the only so called media, the source for this so-called meeting... Historic NY Mar 2015 #79
The evil greedy banksters may yet convince Elizabeth she MUST run for Prez Dems to Win Mar 2015 #83
Well then do it. Would be a good thing actually mvd Mar 2015 #89
Warren has hit the Wall. Scrabbleddie Mar 2015 #91

marym625

(17,997 posts)
1. There couldn't be better publicity against banks!
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:43 PM
Mar 2015

Let them. I love it. What better way to show how corrupt they are than cutting donations because someone is fighting for the people?

Wonder what would happen to Hillary

marym625

(17,997 posts)
12. Oh no doubt
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:56 PM
Mar 2015

I just meant what will happen to her bank funding?

Or is she exempt because good old Larry is her right hand man?

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
14. Oh silly ...she will fight for the new middle class ...which is bankers and Wall Street brokers.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:57 PM
Mar 2015

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
42. and here come the hil haters
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:29 PM
Mar 2015

ready to find anything to slam her with. Gawd you guys are not only shrill and hysterical, you never offer a viable alternative and your posts amount to little more than substance free rabble rousing and scare mongering.

Tell you what, when you come up with proof of what she will do and what her platform will be, and what her plans are, if she is elected, then maybe we'll take a listen to what you have to say. But right now, you got nothing. And your posts show it.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
74. A vote for HRC wouldn't be a vote for a republican ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:30 AM
Mar 2015

but a vote for anyone other than (or not voting) WOULD be.

 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
84. "a vote for anyone other than (would be a vote for a republican)"
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

Wrong-headed logic.
First off, HRC isn't running at present.
Second, only failing to vote, or not voting for the candidate is a vote for a republican...
Note that HRC is not presently the candidate.
Note also, that there are a number other candidates that will likely enter the race.
Lastly, HRC was inevitable during the last race too, and you see how far that got her.
Presuming her as inevitable will only ever work against her.
If you seriously want her to win, I recommend you stick with reasons to vote for her rather than pontifications or future predictions.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
85. I'm sorry if I was unclear ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:50 PM
Mar 2015

I was responding to an/the assertion that HRC is a republican, so he/she would not vote for HRC.

Both of us were posting under the obvious qualifier, that HRC was the democratic Nominee.

If you seriously want her to win, I recommend you stick with reasons to vote for her rather than pontifications or future predictions.


I am undecided on an HRC candidacy (and won't make any decision until the primary season is underway); but, what I am NOT undecided on, is I will affirmatively vote FOR the Democratic nominee.

But thank you for your recommendation regarding pontifications and "future predictions" (can one make "past predictions"?). Perhaps, in the future, you will make your recommendations based on the context of my/the comment ... or, recognize that taking the/a comment in context would render your comment out of place.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
90. Perhaps I was unclear "She can beat OTHER pugs is not one" because she is a pug. She is clearly
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:28 PM
Mar 2015

on the side of the Banksers and thieves of Wall Street.

Now if you can't give me one reason to vote for her;
(other than she is the lesser of two evils)
I will put you on ignore and not waste my time.

Because you either don't comprehend the question or know there is no answer.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
93. I have answered ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:18 PM
Mar 2015

In real life ... the lesser of the two evils is the rational choice.

Now ... if you can't understand that or why, then it says a lot about the world you live in .

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
94. The lesser of the two evils is STILL EVIL. You can't give 1 reason to vote for her. It says a lot
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:27 PM
Mar 2015

about the world you live in.
Since you can't give me a single reason I don't see the benefit of reading your
Condescending posts.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
95. You have gave you the same reason ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:58 PM
Mar 2015

three times. And, explained why ... your unwillingness to accept/agree with that reason is on you.

Since you can't give me a single reason I don't see the benefit of reading your
Condescending posts.


Ignore still works.
 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
92. "a comment in context would render your comment out of place" - I would happily make a retraction..
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:03 PM
Mar 2015

were context specified in either your reply or within the context of the immediate parent thread. However, and perhaps I'm being obtuse here, I'm not seeing anything in the contextual body to warrant the rendering of my comment to be out of place. I hope you're not expecting, perhaps, me to follow all your comments... that'd be a bit foolhardy as each thread is a conversation unto itself.

In any case, I'm glad to see you're keeping effectively a wait-and-see mentality about HRC.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
81. The Question Is
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:40 AM
Mar 2015

Will the 50% of people who don't vote without a good reason vote for her.

We all know the Republicans come out of their caves every 2 years and every
single one votes for whatever pile of slime is running as a Republican.

Will people who think (know)
our government sucks vote at all.

That is the question.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
73. Of course "winning" is more important. Yeah we win. More important that reestablishing our
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

economy and democracy. We need change or the middle and lower classes will wither and die. H. Clinton and Goldman-Sachs won't bring change.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
76. I agree ... Yes, we do need change ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:43 AM
Mar 2015

But the moral victory of voicing that need for change by NOT voting for HRC (if she is the Democratic nominee) will bring about a different kind of change ... it will speed up the withering and death of the working classes.

There are goals that are accomplished through strategies and tactic. I believe we largely agree on some goals; but, differ on the rest.

The tactic of constantly promoting the narrative (to anyone listening or not listening) that a HRC Presidency will lead to the death of the working classes is self-defeating of the goal of protecting the working classes.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
77. I recognize that some prefer to boil slowly. I don't agree. I see that we are being
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:11 AM
Mar 2015

manipulated into accepting the lesser of evils. Those with money give us two candidates, Cruz and Clinton and we think we win with Clinton. We have been in a continued slide into poverty and tyranny and is seems your argument is to support the slower path. I want to draw the line and stand and fight. We may lose but I want to go down fighting and not acquiescing. You might argue that H. Clinton isn't aiming at killing the lower classes, but I'd say it might be a consequence of her actions.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
78. So rather than the "slow boil", you prefer the "quick burn"? {sigh} ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:26 AM
Mar 2015

Political choices (actually, ALL choices) are ALWAYS the acceptance of "the lesser of two evils."

I want to draw the line and stand and fight.


That is a tactic ... that, until you develop, both convincing and workable solutions and candidates to communicate such solutions, pretty much guarantees you will get exactly what you claim to not want.

We may lose but I want to go down fighting and not acquiescing.


That, to me, is an untenable, though romantic, position.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
80. I would rather take the risk of the "quick burn" or liberty than bow down to the system
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:40 AM
Mar 2015

that for 40 has been bleeding us dry. If we wait too long we might not have enough left to fight with.

I am glad our founders didn't have the "let's wait to see if it gets better" attitude.

I don't think either Sen Warren or Sen Sanders can bring about the needed change but they might be able to kick off the change. Sen Sanders said he is willing to take the risk to him and his family IF he gets enough backing. All those that are happy with Hillary are sending the wrong message. "We are ok with the status quo. We don't want to make waves".

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
54. " Gawd you guys are not only shrill and hysterical, you never offer a viable alternative"
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 08:23 PM
Mar 2015

and we when do support alternatives, Wall Street does their damnedest to make sure they are not viable bu cutting odd funding and using tactics that would make the Mafia look like gentlemen.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
72. So if that's true why don't you give us a substantive reason to support H. Clinton.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:24 AM
Mar 2015

Will the big banks and Wall Street fear her control? Or will she treat them like they've been treated the last 40 years?

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
16. If anything she will get a flood of money from them to make sure Warren doesn't have a chance.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:58 PM
Mar 2015

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
50. Exactly!
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 07:53 PM
Mar 2015

Expect the veils to fall incrementally from these threats as they become increasingly effective. The best democratic challenge to oligarchy-by-degree is to directly, immediately, and vociferously double down with its progressive antithesis at every mendacious step.

Response to Romeo.lima333 (Reply #3)

Response to Segami (Original post)

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
5. If he monied elite don't stop corrupting our elections we should publicly fund them, and OUTLAW
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:49 PM
Mar 2015

Any and ALL bribes to elected officials.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
65. Too damn bad P. J. O'Rourke became a douche nozzle republican.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:43 AM
Mar 2015

Editor at NL for years.
Got older, drifted right, lost his edge, lost his ability to be humorous, became a libertarian, and developed anal cancer (which he survived).

Not saying there is a connection between libertarianism and anal cancer. If there was a link, I'd expect libertarians to develop anal and brain cancer simultaneously.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
10. Hard to decide who is more of an enemy of the common people, Shitigroup, SkankofAmerica, HellsCargo
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:54 PM
Mar 2015
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
13. After their bailout by us taxpayers we should have thrown the crooks in jail! How dare them to speak
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:57 PM
Mar 2015

out about anything political!

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
27. She's answered them on Twitter!
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:26 PM
Mar 2015

It's a big fat NO, I won't stop talking! I can't tell you what an inspiration and breath of fresh air she is. She's a ray of hope at least for me.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
28. Check in with Michael Lewis (The Big Short).
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:30 PM
Mar 2015

He has the goods and knowscthe SEC wil do nothing. Also says the NY Attorney General is likepy bestvpositioned to fix problems.

And I'll bet this pressure from Wall Street was the tipping point for Harry Reid's decision to bow out. Reid elevated Warren and then endorsed Schumer.

The CCC

(463 posts)
29. WallStreet’s POLITICAL SHAKEDOWN:We’ll Stop Funding Dems if Elizabeth Warren won’t SIT DOWN & SHUTUP
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

Tax the rich at 91% like under that republican Eisenhower.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
30. They just admitted to
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:41 PM
Mar 2015

bribing public officials. Calling it a campaign contribution is like putting a new dress on an old slattern.

erronis

(15,219 posts)
32. Why do we need $$$ to make our candidate the winner?
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:46 PM
Mar 2015

Why is this a race to the bottom of the cesspool with the bankers/lobbyists already being there?

Why can't a group of very concerned voters just make sure they get their point across to other voters without having to spend millions on advertising that doesn't work?

I've raised this question elsewhere. It seems strange that we are playing directly into the banker's/sycophant's hands by giving them money.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
34. the quest for $ because "we need to win this" has left the party completely open: patrons
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:48 PM
Mar 2015

can kibosh even the candidates they don't pay for

pa28

(6,145 posts)
35. Wall Street tries to depict her as angry or anti-business for promoting sound policy.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:57 PM
Mar 2015

It's not just people on the left who recognize the danger of too big to fail banks. We could easily have a repeat of the 2008 collapse caused by over-leveraged megabanks and fixing the problem has nothing to do with class warfare. It's just the right thing to do.

People like David Stockman and the conservative American Enterprise Institute both favor taking apart big banks to reduce the risk of big banks collapsing the economy again. These are people we disagree with on most issues who also realize breaking up the banks will benefit everyone in the long run, including the banks themselves.

Yet, if you watch apologists for Wall Street you would think Elizabeth Warren was an irrational class warrior. If you've had a light lunch watch this Bloomberg interview featuring Dean Baker vs. a trio of sneering pro-bankers to witness the contempt for yourself.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2014-12-23/did-sen-warren-make-wall-street-an-enemy

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
36. Good. Maybe then the Democrats that have been getting money from the banks will start
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

representing the people again instead of representing the banks.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
37. could be great publicity if any corporate media would carry the story
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:07 PM
Mar 2015

but I am guessing it will not see the light of day except on Freespeech TV

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
38. Churches, insurance & oil Companies and financial institutions banned from political activism
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:09 PM
Mar 2015

*THIS* should be what we are shooting for.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
41. This
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:28 PM
Mar 2015

temper tantrum by the elitist and the what the U.S. Supreme court right wing majority has done to the peoples government should be brought forward on who (the democrat base want in our leader, not some corporation telling us that with there money they can buy the government further towards more corruption with there leader000thats not how its done).
We need a petition now---- to tell the democratic Congress that this what we want, we want Warren or another progressive as our leader, we do not need another corporatist.
Who care what the banks want. look at what they have done, they took our tax dollars and did what with it, nothing absolutely nothing, except bankrupt this country into a third rate state.
We need another Occupy movement

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,713 posts)
45. Now is the time to yell louder....
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:37 PM
Mar 2015

And louder, stronger and harder.

Screw the banks. They are pretty good at screwing us. Give it back.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
48. And this is a surprise because?
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 07:05 PM
Mar 2015

Three take-aways that come to mind and one question.

1. The banking executives consider the Democratic leadership to be their employees, and they are probably right.

2. This rising indignation and protest, at how these corporate forces are sucking the life out of the Earth and all that is human, is starting to have an effect.

3. According to the FDIC, there were 6,799 FDIC-insured commercial banks in the United States as of February 11, 2014. The banks can donate at a rate of $15000 per bank. That's $101,000,000 in the air here, and that's just from the disclosed amounts.

And now the question
Who will vote for a candidate that accepts campaign contributions from banks?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
53. OF course
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 08:20 PM
Mar 2015

Hillary could do a lot if she would tell people to stop threatening just because Liza and Sherrod are speaking their mind.

I have no reason to believe she will.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
59. Ok then; It's on!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:22 AM
Mar 2015

The official decisive battle between the 3rd-way and the progressives; and we couldn't have gotten a calling-out from a more despised group.

CanonRay

(14,097 posts)
60. If Dem leadership were smart, they'd publicly say F*** You to the banks
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:32 AM
Mar 2015

and vow to dismantle them. The public would be overwhelmingly in their favor...even a lot of the Teahadists would be for this.

malaise

(268,882 posts)
67. Breath-taking arrogance and hubris
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:25 AM
Mar 2015

from the plutocrats - they have been empowered by many politicians and their other tool - the corporate media

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
68. Thanks Wall Street You really made voting even easier Hey Dems take Wall Street Money and You dont
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:05 AM
Mar 2015

get my vote, simple!

Democrats have a choice vote for those who support the people or those that support Wall Street and the Banks.


I am voting for the people!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
70. first line of OP says it all
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:23 AM
Mar 2015

bribery of the highest order and perfect example of the totally corrupting power and influence of money in our so-called democratic voting system of picking 'leaders'. It's the total explanation of WHO runs our political system and how afraid these power brokers are, because we might get our hackles up, and get up from The Couch that is too comfortable to leave it seems, though I doubt it. MONEY RULES in this country, nothing less. The 99% do not count to the real power in this country, the 1%. It seems the donkey and the elephant are cover for malfeasance by the people who are elected to represent us and don't because greed, delusions of power and grandeur are too powerful a persuasion to the easily corrupted.

To be truly represented, we the people have to fund, completely, all national elections. Now how we can do this in opposition to the uber rich that run the political system is anyone's guess. Yet there are many fine minds on here to start the suggestion process, right?

I have to seriously start to understand how to change a system so corrupt as ours beyond finding true patriots to our ideologies and needs to vote for. Good luck, I know. Change is our only hope. I can stand on the soap box in the public square and scream about money's power over our voting system. They'll just cart me off to the loony bin even if I make sense. But if enough stand up at the same time, then that's a different story? Maybe?

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
71. So basically we the people are being threatened by corporations
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:33 AM
Mar 2015

And a) hardly anyone will even know about it and b) most of those who do will say "ho, hum, business as usual." What a disgusting state of affairs.

Corporations were never supposed to be in charge of the country, but they've weaseled their way in. Money (the way things are currently set up) will do that.....

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
79. One question why is Reuters the only so called media, the source for this so-called meeting...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:37 AM
Mar 2015

there is no other independent media source. Something is missing. Democrats no longer control the Senate and our only minority members of the Senate Banking committee, etc.

mvd

(65,169 posts)
89. Well then do it. Would be a good thing actually
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 02:10 PM
Mar 2015

And no, Warren is not going to sit down and shut up - Go Liz!

Scrabbleddie

(67 posts)
91. Warren has hit the Wall.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:56 PM
Mar 2015

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” :Frank Zappa

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