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fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:47 AM Mar 2015

Server scrubbed clean

I don't know how or why it was done, but it was done. Foolish decision. There was probably nothing on them that could have hurt more than deleting them.

That couldn't be the end of the matter because whom those emails went to may have them on their computers or servers. "If" there is anything controversial on them, there may be problems ahead.

The folks who received them and still have them will have to be treated with kid gloves. They can either demand bribes to keep the emails confidential, which is extortion, or out of a purer motive, may decide to release their copies of emails knowing they have negative information that could blow up the campaign.

We ain't heard the end of it. Before you know it, Dowdy will be offering rewards for information leading to....you finish.

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Server scrubbed clean (Original Post) fadedrose Mar 2015 OP
It's not as if we've heard the end of "not born here" either... JHB Mar 2015 #1
no. but it has had hardcopy refutation in the form of actual birth certificates, magical thyme Mar 2015 #6
Why should she allow the Rethugs to go on a fishing expedition through private emails pnwmom Mar 2015 #29
that totally misses the point. nt magical thyme Mar 2015 #37
Only for those who were in a coma during the Kenneth Starr investigation of Bill Clinton. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #46
Coma .... Amnesia .... Maybe the ACA can help with that ? Hekate Mar 2015 #80
The insult to the State of Hawai'i continues despite their provision of hard copy actual birth certs Hekate Mar 2015 #32
it's not about insulting the state of Hawai'i. magical thyme Mar 2015 #38
She's not trying to hide anything. She already knows from bitter experience that ... Hekate Mar 2015 #45
and now you've totally missed the point. nt magical thyme Mar 2015 #74
What on earth makes you think I've missed the point? nt Hekate Mar 2015 #79
about "Bills healthcare act" IMO is why Romney got rid of his State computers- he plagiarized it Sunlei Mar 2015 #76
Never heard that, but I find no problem believing it.... fadedrose Mar 2015 #82
Just like Romney's. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #2
Exactly, and DU was absolutely fine with Romney's deleting his emails... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #17
The mainstream media was, especially cause it was legal: JaneyVee Mar 2015 #23
Worst case scenario. She disqualified herself, IMHO. leveymg Mar 2015 #3
Or more likely voters don't give a rat's ass DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #11
People MAY not give a rat's ass, but M$M will linger this shit along It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #28
The MSM tried to bury William Jefferson Clinton ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #31
Clinton didn't have social media, Facebook, Twitter back then.. It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #33
All those new mediums exist and HRC still has solid leads over her Republican challengers DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #34
Like I said earlier.... It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #35
Those that like her will still like her...Those that dislike her will still dislike her DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #36
Let's see... It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #39
You should find a candidate you like and back him or her to the hilt. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #40
I already have someone in mind.. It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #41
Thank you and enjoy the rest of your weekend./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #42
You too! It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #43
I cheered him too, and had tears in my eyes at his leaving fadedrose Mar 2015 #83
This is the Tony Rezco of the Hilary Clinton presidency alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #4
Is he a cousin of Rosemary Wood? fadedrose Mar 2015 #49
Ben Gawzi! leftofcool Mar 2015 #5
Perhaps a reward of who has information leading to the arrest of anyone connected Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #7
The "What does it matter" greytdemocrat Mar 2015 #8
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #9
Just your random anticipatory obstruction of justice. RiverLover Mar 2015 #10
I will defer to Elijah Cummings (D) Maryland DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #12
Due respect to Mr. Cummings, it proves nothing. morningfog Mar 2015 #50
I stand with Representative Cummings (D) and in opposition to Representative Gowdy (R)/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #51
Cummings statement was meaningless. How does it prove morningfog Mar 2015 #52
There is nothing to prove. She complied with Trey Gowdy's (R) request for documents... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #54
So you admit the Cummings quote you used morningfog Mar 2015 #58
There is nothing to support... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #59
I am simply asking you to explain his quote that you morningfog Mar 2015 #60
She satisfied the demands... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #62
What does that have to with the quote? morningfog Mar 2015 #63
This is simple... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #64
You must be responding to someone else. morningfog Mar 2015 #65
"Have I ever said she broke the law? Have I said it disqualifies her? No." DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #66
Still can't explain the quote? morningfog Mar 2015 #67
You seem upset because I refuse to play your parlor games. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #68
Not in the least. I find it amusing. morningfog Mar 2015 #69
If your history is any guide you will change your mind in a minute... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #71
Jury Results on the C-Word Post above. stone space Mar 2015 #13
I tried to warn the poster that word was prohibited and rightfully so... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #14
This is a non-scandal. Voters won't even remember this by 2016 unless ... Scuba Mar 2015 #15
Consider this: most of the electorate aren't committed partisans. To them, scandals matter. leveymg Mar 2015 #16
Real scandals will matter, true. This is not a real scandal. Scuba Mar 2015 #18
It may not seem real to you. But, to the average Indep. out there, it's real enough. leveymg Mar 2015 #19
Deleted emails are no big deal. Here's an example of a real scandal ... Scuba Mar 2015 #20
I couldn't agree with you more. But, the average voter couldn't name him leveymg Mar 2015 #21
The two aren't mutually exclusive. She's hiding something. morningfog Mar 2015 #55
The irony is that she may not have been hiding anything at all. winter is coming Mar 2015 #73
Excellent point. n/t leveymg Mar 2015 #78
Demonstrate how fake scandals have mattered in the last, oh, 20 years or so. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #22
It's not a scandal, most people don't care, but for us Cheese Sandwich Mar 2015 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich Mar 2015 #72
It's not a scandal, but is somewhat suggestive of her team's capacity to manage HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #77
The whole thing start to finish on her part -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2015 #24
Thank you Mr. Limbaugh. These are his exact words. leftofcool Mar 2015 #26
And it keeps getting worse. God I hope dems come to their senses morningfog Mar 2015 #25
Not foolish. Smart. pnwmom Mar 2015 #27
Oh, I thought this was about Jeb Bush's personal email server valerief Mar 2015 #30
Is this a reference to something or are you writing a short story? Matariki Mar 2015 #44
If I were, it wouldn't be short fadedrose Mar 2015 #48
So fucking stupid. I hope whatever she is hiding doesn't morningfog Mar 2015 #47
funny thing about the internet... wundermaus Mar 2015 #53
deleted does not mean it was scrubbed clean belcffub Mar 2015 #56
The recipients of 'emails' still have their copies. Let them release their copies if they want. Sunlei Mar 2015 #57
Just my opinion, but I think we need to see this HeiressofBickworth Mar 2015 #61
It's called throwing shit to see if any will stick. Damn right it's a manufactured B Calm Mar 2015 #75
She is going to be a terrible candidate. Motown_Johnny Mar 2015 #81

JHB

(37,122 posts)
1. It's not as if we've heard the end of "not born here" either...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:53 AM
Mar 2015

...and that's never had any substance.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
6. no. but it has had hardcopy refutation in the form of actual birth certificates,
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:27 AM
Mar 2015

newspaper articles, etc.

The need to destroy the emails opens the door wide to suspician of far worse than actually probably existed. Dumb move, unless someone is somewhat self-destructive or conflicted over what they really want. Paranoia really will destroy ya.

pnwmom

(108,915 posts)
29. Why should she allow the Rethugs to go on a fishing expedition through private emails
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:34 PM
Mar 2015

that don't belong to the State Department? She shouldn't.

And they should trust her to make the distinction because they're trusting all government employees to do that every day -- each time they send an email and have to choose to send it either by .gov or through a personal account.

Hekate

(89,977 posts)
32. The insult to the State of Hawai'i continues despite their provision of hard copy actual birth certs
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:05 PM
Mar 2015

What makes you think that ANY amount of proof from HRC will suffice?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
38. it's not about insulting the state of Hawai'i.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:40 PM
Mar 2015

It's about what Hillary was trying to hide. People now will wonder what it was she was trying to hide. And there is no way to prove she wasn't trying to hide something.

Hekate

(89,977 posts)
45. She's not trying to hide anything. She already knows from bitter experience that ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:07 PM
Mar 2015

....no amount of evidence will ever be enough to people who disliked and distrusted her from the time she was FLOTUS trying to carry Bill's health care act to the US Senate.

So the argument is pointless. Pick something real.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
76. about "Bills healthcare act" IMO is why Romney got rid of his State computers- he plagiarized it
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:37 AM
Mar 2015

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
17. Exactly, and DU was absolutely fine with Romney's deleting his emails...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:51 PM
Mar 2015

We all knew there was nothing underhanded going on with Romney.

 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
28. People MAY not give a rat's ass, but M$M will linger this shit along
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:34 PM
Mar 2015

and YOU know it... Anything to damage the Democratic nomination process.

HRC isn't the best person for the Democratic nomination (so far) - and currently no Democrat is announcing as of yet, so there's always going to be speculation.

Let the primaries begin! May the best of the Democratic people step up for the job.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
31. The MSM tried to bury William Jefferson Clinton ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:02 PM
Mar 2015

and he left office with an approval ratings in the high 60s!!!:





http://www.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx


and he remains America's most popular living president:





http://www.gallup.com/poll/171794/clinton-elder-bush-positively-rated-living-presidents.aspx

As for Secretary Clinton she has solid leads over all her Republican opponents:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html



Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.


-John Adams



 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
33. Clinton didn't have social media, Facebook, Twitter back then..
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:08 PM
Mar 2015

It's more rapid information out there to disseminate, though....

Now? Even more scrutiny than usual...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
34. All those new mediums exist and HRC still has solid leads over her Republican challengers
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:17 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html


If you show me one persuadable voter who won't vote for Hillary Clinton in November of 2016 because she used a personal e-mail address I will streak across Dodger Stadium during their biggest game of the year.
 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
35. Like I said earlier....
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:19 PM
Mar 2015

it's the people who don't give a rat's ass, but the M$M will be willing to blare that crap for the Republican Party all day long...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
36. Those that like her will still like her...Those that dislike her will still dislike her
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

And folks who don't have strong feelings either way will vote for that candidate they feel will do the most for him or her and comes closest to representing their values.

 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
39. Let's see...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:41 PM
Mar 2015

I think I'll wait for my choice as Ms. Clinton isn't exactly what represents me as a person.

Since Ms. Clinton isn't an declared candidate, I'd hold your enuthasim until she does officially declare, and you can try to persuade me why a moneyed Third Way member should hold my interest as a voter that is definitely in the 99%?

I'll listen to what she has to say, but I'm perceiving her as someone who's not really for the people.

 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
41. I already have someone in mind..
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:51 PM
Mar 2015

Just waiting for the Democratic primary season to begin....

Good luck to yours!

 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
43. You too!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:55 PM
Mar 2015

Beautiful weather this weekend... nearly 80s in Denver,

And I have to head towards crappy weather for the next week (50s in Chicago) - and ironically enough, I'll be there for the runoff, but it's probably Rahm winning it as I am hearing that Chuy isn't putting much of a campaign steam...

Maybe I could be wrong too.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
83. I cheered him too, and had tears in my eyes at his leaving
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:38 PM
Mar 2015

A big crowd cheered him as he went on his way.

When I analyze why I was happy for him, I know that it was because of the unfair treatment he and Monica received from Ken Starr and his hoods.

Maybe Clinton did wrong and the young woman was not coerced, that made it consensual among adults. The impeachment was ridiculous because Clinton lied, when he never should have had to answer the charges under oath. It was ridiculous.

That said, Clinton was a great communicator, but not a great man. NAFTA sucked then and still does. I used to go on Ebay to buy fabric and the women who lost their jobs working at fabric manufacturers in PA hated and despised him. The best cloth you could buy was sold for $1/yd on bids. The fabric was given them by the owners... He cut welfare and did not renew the Glass- Steagall Act that made the banks behave and is responsible for many of our current troubles and the wealth going to the 1% when they should have gone to jail.

But impeachment for lying about an consensual affair with a female, NO NO NO.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Perhaps a reward of who has information leading to the arrest of anyone connected
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:31 AM
Mar 2015

To conspiracy by members of Congress to continue to waste tax payer money on non scandals".

Response to fadedrose (Original post)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
12. I will defer to Elijah Cummings (D) Maryland
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:02 AM
Mar 2015
“This confirms what we all knew — that Secretary Clinton already produced her official records to the State Department, that she did not keep her personal emails, and that the select committee has already obtained her emails relating to the attacks in Benghazi."



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
54. There is nothing to prove. She complied with Trey Gowdy's (R) request for documents...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:41 PM
Mar 2015

If you want to abet Mr. Gowdy in his fishing expedition there is nothing a random internet poster (me) can do to stop you.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
58. So you admit the Cummings quote you used
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:44 PM
Mar 2015

for support is meaningless? He claimed scrubbing the server proved something, but it clearly didn't.

Abet Gowdy? Weak sauce.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
59. There is nothing to support...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:49 PM
Mar 2015

I stand with Mr. Cummings in his opposition to Mr. Gowdy's fishing expedition.

If you want to stand with his Republican opponent there is nothing I can do to prevent you...


What you really want to do is engage me in some pointless debate over e-mail protocol... I am content to let the voters sort it out.


If you think this is a matter for law enforcement you can petition the Attorney General to launch an investigation.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
60. I am simply asking you to explain his quote that you
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:51 PM
Mar 2015

used. How does scrubbing the servers prove anything?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
62. She satisfied the demands...
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:01 AM
Mar 2015

She satisfied the demands of the Ranking Member of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and the Select Committee on Benghazi.

That's good enough for me...

If you believe that disqualifies her a a presidential candidate I suggest you find someone to support in the primaries and back him or her to the hilt.

If you feel that laws were broken you can contact:

The Honorable Eric Holder
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001
202-353-1555

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
63. What does that have to with the quote?
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:03 AM
Mar 2015

You shouldn't post quotes that are meaningless just because you like who said it. At least if you do, you should be prepared to explain why the quote isn't meaningless.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
64. This is simple...
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:10 AM
Mar 2015

If you think she broke the law petition the Attorney General to launch an investigation.

If you think this incident while not unlawful disqualifies her as a candidate find a candidate you like and support him and her to the hilt...

If you think what she did is unlawful and/or disqualifies her as a candidate for the president there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...

Speaking colloquially I don't give a rat's ass about her e-mail protocol and am willing to wager that this brouhaha will not prevent her from being our forty fifth president...



 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
65. You must be responding to someone else.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:23 AM
Mar 2015

You keep talking about protocols ans laws ans some republicans and such. All I asked of you was to explain Rep. Cummings' quote, because it does not make sense. I don't get how her scrubbing the server proves anything.

That is it.

Have I ever said she broke the law? Have I said it disqualifies her? No.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,702 posts)
66. "Have I ever said she broke the law? Have I said it disqualifies her? No."
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:27 AM
Mar 2015
"Have I ever said she broke the law? Have I said it disqualifies her? No."

-Morningfog





This smells like destruction of evidence, desperation and spoliation. Because of another stupid (or worse) decision, this story will grow new and longer legs. All it will take is one business email to turn up which she didn't produce to destroy any credibility she has left. I hope whatever she is hiding either stays hidden or is revealed long before the convention. She's a liability for the Democratic Party.

-morningfog





 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
67. Still can't explain the quote?
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:35 AM
Mar 2015

So now you focus on me. Have at it.

It does smell. I was stupid. The story is not over. She is a liability. Nowhere did I say she broke the law or is disqualified. I better understand now your inability to answer simple questions or stay on point. I think I get it now. I won't wait for any further explanations from you, clearly you lack the ability.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
13. Jury Results on the C-Word Post above.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

On Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:02 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Says Draco Malfoy (R- Slytherin)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6427584

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Though we decided that some words aren't used at DU whether they are used in a sexist way or not. There are plenty of other names to call people other than c***s.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:07 AM, and the Jury voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with alerter, poor word choice obscures and otherwise correct sentiments.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Come on, Dar; grow up! You're an adult, not some middle school teeny-bopper. If you have to use foul and demeaning language, use it in front of the women in your life, not the the women of DU.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: They use that 'word' in England with impunity all the time. It's my least favorite next to the n-word. But I'm going with the sentiments of the sentence which are spot on not the icky word.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
15. This is a non-scandal. Voters won't even remember this by 2016 unless ...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:37 PM
Mar 2015

... they are Republicans who weren't going to vote for Hillary anyway.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
18. Real scandals will matter, true. This is not a real scandal.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:56 PM
Mar 2015

There are plenty of real problems with Hillary's candidacy; this isn't one of them.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
19. It may not seem real to you. But, to the average Indep. out there, it's real enough.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 02:36 PM
Mar 2015

And, a real enough scandal is enough to swing the election. You want to bet the whole thing on guessing just what percentage that impacts? Not me. No how. Particularly since she has plenty of other liabilities and historically high negatives.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
21. I couldn't agree with you more. But, the average voter couldn't name him
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:44 PM
Mar 2015

or remember what Presidents he served, much less his roles in the Chilean Coup and the Vietnam War. That he's a name partner and architect emeritus of the NWO, and that Hillary wants to inherit his seat on the Board, goes completely over their heads.

The real scandals always go unpunished, if they are even at all noticed by the public.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
55. The two aren't mutually exclusive. She's hiding something.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:42 PM
Mar 2015

Is she hiding it from the Dems, the Repubs or both?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
73. The irony is that she may not have been hiding anything at all.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:57 AM
Mar 2015

Given how crazy the GOP has been about Benghazi, she may have wiped stuff just to keep them from inflating something innocent into another "scandal". We'll never know. Either way, poor judgement on her part.

wyldwolf

(43,864 posts)
22. Demonstrate how fake scandals have mattered in the last, oh, 20 years or so.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:57 PM
Mar 2015

Surely there are big examples to point to.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
70. It's not a scandal, most people don't care, but for us
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:41 AM
Mar 2015

...I guess for people who vote in Democratic primaries... is this how we think government should be? Should cabinet officers keep their own private records of official business and then destroy them when leaving office?

To me that's a horrible way to run a government and it makes me think she was trying to cover her tracks. She had to know that whatever was in those emails was so bad that it would be worth the controversy to destroy all the emails.

Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #70)

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
77. It's not a scandal, but is somewhat suggestive of her team's capacity to manage
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:21 AM
Mar 2015

communications and protect her image.

HRC has been and will continue to be harassed by the right.

It is one undoubted certainty of an HRC presidential campaign.

Her staff's competency to handle the wet crap filled muck and turn it into moldered compost is essential if she's going to be kept effective.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
24. The whole thing start to finish on her part --
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:19 PM
Mar 2015

has been beyond stupid. Private server in her own home and now scrubbed. I am sick to death of this kind of bullshit from politicians, R or D. She deserves every bit of shit she is going to get over this.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
25. And it keeps getting worse. God I hope dems come to their senses
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:26 PM
Mar 2015

before the convention. This will only get worse. One self-serving, self-protecting stupid decision after another.

pnwmom

(108,915 posts)
27. Not foolish. Smart.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:31 PM
Mar 2015

Jeb Bush's was similarly cleaned, and so was Mitt Romney's.

She's already watched her husband targeted by an investigator on a fishing expedition. She's kept that from happening.

It's ridiculous to think she had any deep dark secrets on her State Department emails. But she shouldn't have to give free reign to her personal account to the nutcases in the House.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
44. Is this a reference to something or are you writing a short story?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:58 PM
Mar 2015

I'm probably out of the loop news wise and all, but posts without reference are kinda annoying.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
48. If I were, it wouldn't be short
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:16 PM
Mar 2015

The reference is from what's gathered from HowdyGowdy and from the news.

The news is all we know about the server. I don't give a damn about what Republicans did with their servers and emails, I'm a Democrat and am concerned with keeping the White House.

Either the emails were useless to anyone except the caterers, or they had some embarrassing (not illegal) emails among them. The point is we'll never know nor will anyone else except the recipients, and they may be the reason she wanted to protect them because people write the darndest things...

It would be a long long story if we knew who they went to, and if they had gone to caterers, why delete them. It would have been wonderful to punish that committee with a server full of boring emails. Too bad.

No matter how you look at it, it was a mistake..

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
47. So fucking stupid. I hope whatever she is hiding doesn't
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:17 PM
Mar 2015

come to light before the convention or never at all. She had out herself in very tight spot. She is a liability and risk in retaining the WH.

wundermaus

(1,673 posts)
53. funny thing about the internet...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:40 PM
Mar 2015

If the information was ever transported on the internet, the information is there. You can scrub a server until you are blue in the face... the data remains. Of that I know.

belcffub

(595 posts)
56. deleted does not mean it was scrubbed clean
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:43 PM
Mar 2015

I work in IT... when we decommission servers the get scrubbed (triple deleting the data with random garbage) then the hard drives get sent out to be shredded... just deleting the data does not scrub the drives... the data on them could be recovered...

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
61. Just my opinion, but I think we need to see this
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:59 PM
Mar 2015

manufactured "scandal" for what it's really worth. All polls show that if HRC was the candidate, she would win the presidency against ANY Republican candidate. So, the plan seems to be to keep her from being nominated as the candidate which would serve to increase the odds for a Republican president.

The bottom line, like it or not, is that she did nothing illegal or even immoral. This is all about campaigning AGAINST her before she even becomes the nominee.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
75. It's called throwing shit to see if any will stick. Damn right it's a manufactured
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:52 AM
Mar 2015

scandal, just like the Benghazi scandal. Now the shit throwers are trying to connect the two scandals. Do they really think Hillary using a private e-mail server fired off an e-mail to the Benghazr terrorists to attack the embassy? Hell no, but that don't stop republicans from doing what they do best.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
81. She is going to be a terrible candidate.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 02:46 PM
Mar 2015

Her team does not seem able to deal with even the slightest issue in a reasonable manner, and the vast right wing conspericy has not even begun to sling shit yet. She will never be on message due to the endless distractions.

The real problem is that you should never wrestle a pig, but she will be forced to endlessly wrestle an endless stream of pigs for the entire campaign. Swing voters w be so sick of that shit that they will vote for it to end, and that means no Clinton 2.

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