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http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterNo criminal charges will be filed in the fatal police shooting of Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr., a 68-year-old ex-Marine who was shot to death in his White Plains, NY apartment after his medical alert device accidentally went off and signalled police to his apartment. According to reports, audio recordings captured by that device captured police using racial slurs.
Coverage around the web: CNN, Associated Press, CBS NYC, NY Daily News, The Journal News, NY Mag.
Anthony Carelli, the White Plains police officer who killed Chamberlain, has been accused in a separate racially-charged incident of police brutality.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Even if Carelli goes to jail for the other case, action needs to be taken in this one.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)That often happens, hope it can be done in this case.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)BlueIris
(29,135 posts)MuseRider
(34,109 posts)I thought they had all kinds of tape to prove what was going on and his daughter (?) who lived next door who was there trying to explain and stop them.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)from the medical alert company. They have the niece who lives upstairs and had come down to talk with the police.
I don't think they will get away with this and, there is a LOT of liability here because in addition to the police, there were fire fighters and EMTs present, too.
His family has good spokesman, especially his son, Kenneth Jr. Maybe Amy will stay with this and get them on again.
MuseRider
(34,109 posts)I was not totally sure of the details, who was there and where the audio/video came from but I knew from what I read that there was a lot of evidence against the police.
I hope they don't get away with this, it is despicable.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)The coroner found that Mr. Chamberlain was not facing the police at the time he was shot and he was not holding a weapon. So, their story that he was charging them with a weapon is disputed by the autopsy.
His son put up a facebook page but there's not much there right now. He seems to be having a very rough time.
MuseRider
(34,109 posts)Not only provoking anger but much sadness. I will look for the FB page. He will need a lot of support.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Thanks, MuseRider.
MuseRider
(34,109 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)There likely will be a HUGH fight over release of the tapes, as they are so damaging to the police.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)This is like the third one of these cases in just a couple of years. There's video of the family's presser after the Grand Jury verdict although I can't stream it and haven't seen it:
http://www.lohud.com/VideoNetwork/1620087200001/Chamberlain-Press-Conference
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The facts will come out in the end, with audio and videotpe.
This makes me think of an Onion piece:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002640623
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)I'm speechless.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)if a citizen did this they'd be in prison for murder and hate crimes; someone with a badge, no charges. How utterly, utterly loathsome!
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Even with the recordings.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,850 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It was a MEDICAL alert that was received...not a 911 call.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)The day your medic alert goes off, you can expect a FAST dispensation by the local police! Avoid medical bankruptcy! Just press the little button, and RELAX, it'll all be over soon.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)This was a case of murder, and they have the tape to prove it.
Par for the course which is why internal investigations are a joke.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Now, if we can get Holder and the DOJ to quit busting dispensaries for awhile, looking into this would be a good use of their resources.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and if you read the transcript it seems the WP police are pretty habitual liars
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/5/exclusive_cop_in_fatal_shooting_of
suffragette
(12,232 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)MAYO BARTLETT: Its astonishing. I mean, you hear the people who called you to give assistance say, "We are canceling our request for assistance." The police ignore that. They say its too late for that. The same company says that "We have Mr. Chamberlains son, who lives only five minutes away."
AMY GOODMAN: Thats you, Kenneth.
MAYO BARTLETT: "Do you mind if we contact his son, so you can speak to him? Maybe he can help you." They say, "We dont need any mediators." His sister, Mr. Chamberlains sister, Kenneth Chamberlain Jr.s aunt, was on the phone, and they were asking whether she could speak with her brother. The police said no. And at one point, when Tonyia Greenhill is present, what occurs is
AMY GOODMAN: This is your cousin.
KENNETH CHAMBERLAIN JR.: Yes.
MAYO BARTLETT: Yes. Shes downstairs, and she overhears the police asking Mr. Chamberlain, "Do you have any family?" She goes over to give assistance. She says, "Im his niece." They ignore that. So theyve had every opportunity to take advantage of people who could have been of assistance. And again, its not a situation where they were investigating a crime and theyre putting a civilian into harms way. Theyre there to give assistance. And in particular, if youre dealing with an elderly individual, you dont know whether that person even has dementia or whether theyre actually able to give you all of their medical history. If you have a family member thats present, you should take full advantage of the fact that that individual is there.
JUAN GONZALEZ: And I think that thethats a critical point, in discussions with you, not only that they seem to have made up their minds that they were going to just go in there, but also that even when they did make up their minds, there was someone in full body gear that could have led the way, been the first person in there. But they claimbut that person did not go in, and instead it was these officers who went in there and who then claim that Mr. Chamberlain came at them with a knife, and they had no recourse but to shoot.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)The shooter is already in court on another case of brutality.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)The one's that are spoken of so highly around here?
The ones that are supposedly the 'majority' of cops?
Until the 'good cops' stand up to this murderous behavior we will
NEVER have real justice in the United States.
I wonder how the rest of White Plains feels about the message sent by this
announcement?
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Politics
Police must answer for crimes against minorities
By theGrio
9:29 AM on 03/22/2012
Damon Jones, president of the Westchester Black Law Enforcement is fighting against the rise of questionable police shootings in the black community with a federal lawsuit. In a report by Lohud.com, Jones talks about the most recent killing of Kenneth Chamberlain Sr. The organization has been steadily monitoring the issue of police crimes in communities of color across the United States and how law enforcement needs to make a change.
Incidents of questionable police shootings and conduct are on the rise throughout the nation, particularly as it relates to people of color and poor communities.
The recent shooting of Kenneth Chamberlain Sr. -- a black man shot and killed by White Plains police responding to a medical alert at his apartment Nov. 19 -- is just a piece in a larger puzzle of deep-rooted "isms" in the institution of law enforcement in the United States.
As Blacks in Law Enforcement, we all know too well the embedded stereotypes of people of color in the law enforcement institution. Many off-duty or plainclothes black officers have been shot, shot at, or killed by their white counterparts, by mistake; the same never happens in reverse.
http://www.thegrio.com/politics/police-must-answer-for-crimes-against-minorities.php
DLevine
(1,788 posts)What ever happened to protect and serve?
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)"To Protect the Status Quo and Serve the Wealthy".
newfie11
(8,159 posts)I want out of this country NOW!!!!
KG
(28,751 posts)Festivito
(13,452 posts)They're hoping to pre-create the history.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Cops in this country are completely out of control and completely unaccountable. I suspect that a majority of cops belong behind bars themselves. Assholes.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...and the police are saying that the man had a knife. That they told him to open the door and he refused. And
when he cracked the door he had a large knife in his hand. I didn't believe it when the police were saying this.
I watched the video on Anderson Cooper and I didn't see a knife.
Are they lying???
Also, Anderson Cooper reported that they called the man a n*gg*r and were mocking him and taunting him. And prior
to arriving at this man's residence, the police were told that this man could be mentally unstable. So, why were they
calling him names and taunting him? These pathetic police sound SICK and like thugs!
The son of Mr, Chamberlain was on Anderson Cooper. He pointed out that the audio/video that was being shown on CNN
was not complete, and all of the footage of the police calling him names, was not shown. Great. Don't you just love
the media? What in the hell are they doing? "Keeping em honest" my ass.
This whole situation is so sick.
Mr. Chamberlain was afraid to open the door because he was afraid of the police. He knew how they treated minorities in his
area, and he was terrified. He kept telling them that he was fine and that they should go away. They refused. I guess these
wussies just didn't like to be told what to do. I'm sure it angered them. They had no business shooting him.
It's just disgraceful and so sad. These police officers both need to be put a way in prison for a long, long time.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)The PD first said he had a hatchet, then a butcher knife and it turned out to be a butter knife, no kidding. But that was AFTER he told them repeatedly that he was okay and that he didn't need help and that he would not open the door. Yeah, they taunted him for a good fiften minutes before they busted down the door for no reason.
You can hear the whole thing at the Democracy Now! website.
Number23
(24,544 posts)about them taunting Chamberlain and calling him the n word.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/veterans-view-to-a-killing-20120414-1x02x.html
Yes, this story has made international news though much less than the Trayvon Martin killing.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)One is by a civil liberties group and now, the Chamberlain family lawyer has also submitted a request.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)I guess it means it is just A-OK for police to barge in and start shooting. The whole idea of law and order has become FUBAR'd.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)what ever they want ... they have zero liability
no matter what they do they have immunity ...
I hope the city is sued into near bankruptcy ...
people need to go to jail but they won't police
have immunity while on duty ...
don't know what it takes to strip them of that
but I hope they do take it from them and they
go to jail. prayers for the family.
Number23
(24,544 posts)My heart weeps for that man's family.
1620rock
(2,218 posts)I swear I'll die in my home before I call them. Murdering bastards!
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)Obviously the White Plains PD can't be trusted n/t