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marym625

(17,997 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:46 PM Mar 2015

It's not just Indiana and Arkansas. 85 bills in 28 States to discriminate against LGBT

Whatever you can do to stay out of these States and not use any business based in these States, please do.

I wish it were just Indiana and Arkansas but, unfortunately, it's not. The backlash by the moral morons due marriage equality has hit 28 States with 85 bills in various stages. The fact that any have actually been signed into law is mind boggling.

The HRC and GLSEN are fighting to maintain, restore, and in some cases, give for the first time, equal rights for LGBT people across the country.

The HRC has put out this map to show the States with discriminatory laws



The diversity of the legislation is unprecedented and a record number of bills have been introduced.


Together, these bills undermine, and even cripple, fundamental protections and basic dignity for LGBT Americans and other minority groups.

Even in states with long traditions of support for equality, anti-equality lawmakers are introducing anti-LGBT bills.  Massachusetts, for example, is the latest state with a bill that would criminalize transgender people for using appropriate restrooms.  Anti-transgender "bathroom surveillance" bills have are now pending in Florida, Texas and a handful of other states.


More at links

http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/anti-lgbt-bills-introduced-in-28-states
http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/wave-of-anti-lgbt-bills-in-2015-state-legislative-sessions

These bills can change adoption proceedings and even foster care.

And how sad is this? How sad is it that in this day and age a kid has to worry, at school, about being outed!



HRC is partnering with LGBT groups and other civil and human rights groups across the country to fight the discrimination, in law and practice.

Some companies have come out against these discriminatory laws as well.

Tweet from CEO Tim Cook when Pence signed the bill into law:

Tim Cook        ✔ @tim_cook

Around the world, we strive to treat every customer the same — regardless of where they come from, how they worship or who they love.

12:58 PM - 27 Mar 2015

4,003 RETWEETS 4,853 FAVORITE

Salesforce.com, YELP CEO and C founder of PayPal, Starbucks, NAACP, some athletic associations have come out against, and in some cases already changed conferences, etc, in opposition to the discriminatory laws in Arkansas and Indiana. More are added to that list as the day goes by

GLSEN article

http://glsen.org/article/glsen-statement-indiana-religious-freedom-restoration-act

Please do what you can to fight these awful, outright unconstitutional, laws.

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It's not just Indiana and Arkansas. 85 bills in 28 States to discriminate against LGBT (Original Post) marym625 Mar 2015 OP
The Koch's and the Adelson's have unleashed the hounds and the gatekeeper media are in shock and awe Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #1
That was perfect marym625 Mar 2015 #3
No need to research, you can hear a pack of hounds' barking long before they tear at your throat. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #11
Another good one. TThank you! eom. marym625 Mar 2015 #19
Well said! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #5
Ah, Nevada, where the religions that forbid gambling and alcohol profit greatly from both..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #2
Nothing like good old fashioned hypocrisy! marym625 Mar 2015 #6
Great observation, illustrating how those who claim these bills are not hate legislation Zorra Mar 2015 #8
BINGO! marym625 Mar 2015 #23
Not quite, they hate atheists, pagans and Muslims too among others.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #25
Sadly, I think a good many Americans love discrimination and hatred. We see it all of the time. RKP5637 Mar 2015 #4
There are definitely good signs marym625 Mar 2015 #13
+10 million!!!! Nt riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #7
Wow! Thank you! marym625 Mar 2015 #14
What if it were religious freedom to not serve black people? NightWatcher Mar 2015 #9
I honestly would not be surprised if that was in the works. marym625 Mar 2015 #16
I actually think they are similar to ISIS! They are just currently held in line better, currently, RKP5637 Mar 2015 #20
+1000 marym625 Mar 2015 #21
The MN Bill is for Transgender students in sports CatholicEdHead Mar 2015 #10
Thanks for the information. City Lights Mar 2015 #15
I'm believe you are right marym625 Mar 2015 #17
Don't be so sure marym625 Mar 2015 #22
Thou shalt not lie? world wide wally Mar 2015 #12
I doubt (hope strongly) that these will withstand SCOTS marym625 Mar 2015 #18
Minnesota is a very blue state and this gop law is not very likely to pass ever. Boycotting is a jwirr Mar 2015 #24
I hope you are right marym625 Mar 2015 #26
don't boycott colorado, those bills were killed by the leg fizzgig Mar 2015 #27
They have come a long way marym625 Mar 2015 #30
There is one pending before the Texas Legislature Gothmog Mar 2015 #28
Hopefully marym625 Mar 2015 #31
Here’s What Georgia Businesses Think About The State’s ‘Religious Liberty’ Bill napkinz Mar 2015 #29
That's encouraging news! marym625 Mar 2015 #32
Correct again Mary. 99Forever Mar 2015 #33
Thank you, 99Forever marym625 Mar 2015 #34

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. The Koch's and the Adelson's have unleashed the hounds and the gatekeeper media are in shock and awe
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:49 PM
Mar 2015

...if not holding the gate open.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
3. That was perfect
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:57 PM
Mar 2015

Absolutely perfect analogy. I haven't researched it yet but there's no doubt in my mind that these bills have all been written by ALEC.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
2. Ah, Nevada, where the religions that forbid gambling and alcohol profit greatly from both.....
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:53 PM
Mar 2015

The very picture of the venality, corruption and transient principles of the religious conservatives. Additionally, only 30% of Nevadans bother to attend religious services regularly. So, they don't go to church much, run gambling halls and bars as their major enterprise but they can't stand to serve gay people. Liberace wept.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
6. Nothing like good old fashioned hypocrisy!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:00 PM
Mar 2015

My cousin and his husband live in Vegas. They're not at all political. I think that's just so they can ignore as much as possible and pretend things are just honky dorry. (Dorey? However it's spelled)

Thanks for your input

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
8. Great observation, illustrating how those who claim these bills are not hate legislation
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:01 PM
Mar 2015

specifically targeting LGBT are deliberate and conscienceless liars.

These bills are totally only about hating LGBT, and everyone knows it.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
4. Sadly, I think a good many Americans love discrimination and hatred. We see it all of the time.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:57 PM
Mar 2015

It is pathetic that the US does this, but US history is filled with discrimination and hatred against all types of people. I find it amazing, for example, there is still so much discrimination, hatred and abuse toward women.

Some days I wonder just what the US is about, far from all of the endless equality I was preached in school. Sure, the US is certainly not the worse place on earth, but the US could be a hell of a lot better.

That all said, I am constantly amazed marriage equality has gone so far, and I'm still amazed voters elected Obama twice. So, we certainly are not all that bad.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
13. There are definitely good signs
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:08 PM
Mar 2015

But it's all about, and always about, the money.

I truly believe these laws are aimed at distracting people from other horrors our government is putting upon us as it is, not so slowly anymore, turned into a corpocracy.

I also think it's another way to raise money. So many of the Republicans had pretty much given up their fight against LGBT just before the DOMA decision. Now, they're back at it. Why?

Thank you, RKP5637. I understand exactly what you are feeling. I don't know that I believe we have done as well as you think we have. But maybe we're just going backward since President Obama was first elected. And the fight against LGBT people by Republicans has certainly taken an upswing since June 26, 2013.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
9. What if it were religious freedom to not serve black people?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:01 PM
Mar 2015

I don't want to hear that one is a choice and one is not. This is about discriminating against people one group does not like.

I say we discriminate against religious bigots.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
16. I honestly would not be surprised if that was in the works.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:13 PM
Mar 2015

Trying to find a way to discriminate against black people legally. They did it in Arizona against brown people.

Yeah, the religious fanatics here are as bad as the Taliban. And yes, I mean that. Look at what they're doing in Ohio against women. That antichoice bill would jail doctors. Same in Arizona. And there is a woman in jail in Florida for having a midterm miscarriage. The jury didn't believe it wasn't an abortion and now she's in jail.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
20. I actually think they are similar to ISIS! They are just currently held in line better, currently,
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:21 PM
Mar 2015

the US. I wonder what the boundary conditions are for religious freedom/discrimination. It looks like it can be contrived to be for just about anything. Those sitting back and thinking, oh, that's just for LGBT had best think twice. Discrimination and legalized bigotry is dangerous to any society. It tears the fabric of a society and weakens to destruction. And, it enables the lunatic fringe of society to say hey, this is OK, and they will take it another step further with open season on whomever is being discrimination against.

Yes, I think it's part of a master plan being rolled out for deflection from the real issues facing this country.



marym625

(17,997 posts)
21. +1000
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:32 PM
Mar 2015

Distract and control.

Don't ever think this can't happen to you. Next could be laws discriminating against catholics, then Mormons, etc etc

Thank you!

CatholicEdHead

(9,740 posts)
10. The MN Bill is for Transgender students in sports
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

Pushed by our local republicans, it will not go anywhere with a DFL state Senate and governor.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
17. I'm believe you are right
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:15 PM
Mar 2015

But the fact it even got out of committee, never mind was written, IA disgusting and frightening.

Thanks for the information

marym625

(17,997 posts)
22. Don't be so sure
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:37 PM
Mar 2015

Look at this one. 50-50. And frankly, the legal attacks that are specifically against transgender people go further than the bill aimed at LGBT.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141051769

Though I really hope you are correct. Obviously.

Thanks again

world wide wally

(21,758 posts)
12. Thou shalt not lie?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:07 PM
Mar 2015

Then how can they just use this sorry ass excuse to discriminate?
What if "their religion" tells them, or they honestly believe, they are not allowed to own private property and they are welcome to take anything they need?
This may be a new height in bullshit.

This Supreme Court is America's greatest enemy

marym625

(17,997 posts)
18. I doubt (hope strongly) that these will withstand SCOTS
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:17 PM
Mar 2015

But with this court, I will hold my breath when it gets to them. Holding my breath in fear

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. Minnesota is a very blue state and this gop law is not very likely to pass ever. Boycotting is a
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:49 PM
Mar 2015

little drastic in this case. A gop idiot presented a bill which failed and I think he has tried to revive it but that failed also. There is not a state in the US that forbids someone from proposing a bill. The good states reject the bad bills. We did.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
26. I hope you are right
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:57 PM
Mar 2015

Yes, it's the fact that the bills are even being considered and many make it out of committee and to a vote.

Minnesota just defeated a discriminatory bill against LGBT but the vote was 50-50. The new bill is against transgender people. Those pass more easily. I know that the governor would never sign it but it could pass.

It's horrendous that this backlash is going on. The good thing that is happening is most legislatures are smart enough to see what is happening to Indiana because of their bill and won't want that to happen to their own state.

Thank you for your thoughts. Always a pleasure to see you

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
27. don't boycott colorado, those bills were killed by the leg
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

i knew about the right to refuse one, but had to google about the anti-trans bill (it was a locker room one). and both were killed in committee as far as i can remember.

what also isn't being said about colorado is that the leg is working on some pro-lgbt legislation, including banning conversion therapy for minors and making it easier and less intrusive for trans individuals to get the sex changed on their birth certificates.

i agree that we need to make people aware of these atrocious laws, but let's make sure they also know what is proposed and what is law.

colorado has come a long way since amendment 2.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
30. They have come a long way
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:05 PM
Mar 2015

It's difficult to believe that these bills are so prevalent. it's unbelievable to me that women are fighting for the basic right to control their bodies,transgender people are fighting for the basic right to use the bathroom, LGBT are fighting for the right to work and be served.

It really sucks.

Glad Colorado is improving in these areas

Thanks for your reply

Gothmog

(145,794 posts)
28. There is one pending before the Texas Legislature
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:55 PM
Mar 2015

Houston was promised a superbowl and we can kiss that goodbye if this bill is adopted

marym625

(17,997 posts)
31. Hopefully
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:09 PM
Mar 2015

The legislatures will figure that out before the vote. Though it sucks that money is the incentive instead of just common decency.

Thanks for the info. I don't follow football and had no idea where the next super bowl will be

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
29. Here’s What Georgia Businesses Think About The State’s ‘Religious Liberty’ Bill
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:57 PM
Mar 2015

by Zack Ford
March 28, 2015

Despite initial optimism that Georgia’s discriminatory “Religious Freedom Restoration Act” (RFRA) had been sufficiently halted in committee on Thursday, activists worry that it could still be revived during the last week of the legislative session. The House Judicial Committee could restore SB 129 to its pre-amended form and advance it, or the RFRA could be tacked onto another pending bill.

Georgia’s businesses have been oddly silent on the bill, despite mounting pressure from an organized Stop SB 129 social media campaign and a fomenting backlash against Indiana’s similar law. With its proponents now on record testifying that circumventing nondiscrimination laws is essential to the bill, however, a few more businesses are speaking out.

The Home Depot, which is based in Georgia and had long been futilely boycotted for the American Family Association for it’s LGBT support, responded directly to a ThinkProgress inquiry about SB 129. Stephen Holmes, Director of Corporate Communications for the home improvement company, said, “We’ve been clear on several occasions that we don’t support anything that discriminates.”

Garin Norain, Vice President of Public Relations for the Atlanta Hawks, Georgia’s professional basketball team, told ThinkProgress that the team does not comment on any pending active legislation. But, he said, “We would not support any legislation that discriminates,” noting that the team opposes all forms of discrimination, including on the basis of sexual orientation.

read more: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/03/28/3640249/no-the-georgia-rfra-is-not-dead-yet/

marym625

(17,997 posts)
32. That's encouraging news!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:16 PM
Mar 2015

Thank you.

But, as I just replied to someone else, it's despicable that it's money that stops these religious zealots from voting for these discriminatory bills and not just common decency.

Thank you for the reply. I appreciate it

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
33. Correct again Mary.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:23 PM
Mar 2015

Just as a point of interest. It's widely thought here in Minnesota, that the push by the hateful religious wackos to put in a state constitutional amendment to ban gay marriages, backfired so badly on the cretins, it actually helped Dems in the next election and sped up marriage equality becoming the law here.

To all of you "good Christian" bigots out there, consider yourself put on notice:


THE PUSHBACK COMETH

marym625

(17,997 posts)
34. Thank you, 99Forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:50 PM
Mar 2015

I love it when their horrible crap backfires on them. The outrageous proposition being put forth in California to actually kill LGBT people, and by religious folks, should cause all citizens of the country to be ashamed of any level of discrimination. But no. They just don't see that it is just a step further than not allowing service.

Just wish that money wasn't the reason people backed off discriminatory practices and just decency would prevail for decency's sake.

Thank you again, my friend!

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