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Four States... Vermont, California, Illinois, And New Jersey.Recently (and the Governors have no say)...
Three "Half-States"... (The Other House Has To Approve)
Hawaii, New Hampshire (Red), And Delaware (Bankers State).
I'm predicting that Montana will be the second Red-State.
Wolf-Pac: http://www.wolf-pac.com/
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)I really like the enthusiasm of wolf-pac but I'm nervous about the idea of a constitutional convention. What if it gets dominated by the Koch Bros. and the big banks and corporations. Could we come out of it with some horrible constitutional amendment we never planned on? Like an amendment restricting the government from taxing corporations or something like that? I don't understand how the convention works.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The convention would be free to propose anything. For their proposal to have an effect, it would have to be ratified by the states.
There are a lot of awful things that could be ratified by enough states.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Reformers introduced constitutional amendments in 1828, 1829, and 1855, with the issues finally reaching a head during the 1890s and 1900s. Progressives, such as William Jennings Bryan, called for reform to the way senators were chosen. Elihu Root and George Frisbie Hoar were prominent figures in the campaign to maintain the state legislative selection of senators. By 1910, 31 state legislatures had passed motions calling for reform. By 1912, 239 political parties at both the state and national level had pledged some form of direct election, and 33 states had introduced the use of direct primaries. With a campaign for a state-led constitutional amendment gaining strength, and a fear that this could result in a "runaway convention", the proposal to mandate direct elections for the Senate was finally introduced in the Congress. It was passed by the Congress and, on May 13, 1912, was submitted to the states for ratification. By April 8, 1913, three-fourths of the states had ratified the proposed amendment, making it the Seventeenth Amendment. Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan formally declared the amendment's adoption on May 31, 1913.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
zeemike
(18,998 posts)It never fails...and those afraid will not act.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)I can't see any law written by Congress getting around the 'Citizens United' ruling...
Am I wrong ???
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But I am not a constitutional lawyer and I don't play one on the internet.
All I know is that provisions were made in that document for it to be amended when things are not working...and things are not working.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Point being... is that Wolf-PAC was ignored at first... But when it came to Illinois and New Jersey... the Koch Brothers *ABC123* PAC Showed up to contest... and they got laughed out of the building... and got defeated... each time so far.
They are now scared... and...
TPTB WANT US to be afraid of this... the ULTIMATE PROJECTION.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)This would solve so many problems.
nastynaven
(68 posts)i thought this was about the band wolf pac.