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bigtree

(85,970 posts)
Fri May 4, 2012, 11:42 AM May 2012

Meet the astroturfer planning to swift boat Obama

@truthteam2012 "Meet the astroturfer planning to swift boat Obama": http://t.co/fvVnaNwn 5.4.2012, 11:22 a.m.


By Adam Weinstein at Mother Jones on Fri. May 4, 2012

Veterans for a Strong America describes itself "a grassroots action organization committed to ensuring that America remains a strong nation by advancing liberty, safeguarding freedom and opposing tyranny." Founded in 2010, the ostensibly nonpartisan group kept a low profile until earlier this week, when it posted a splashy online ad that uses statements from President Barack Obama to suggest that the commander-in-chief boasted about his role in killing Osama bin Laden, dishonoring America's military in the process . . .

Joel Arends, VFSA's founder, chairman, and sole staffer, tells me he's proud of his organization's viral video, even if it's characterized as swift boating. "Yes, it's the swift boating of the president, in the sense of using what's perceived to be his greatest strength and making it his greatest weakness."

. . . Arends got his start in politics as a South Dakota Bush-Cheney field director in 2000. He's currently the Republican party head in Lincoln County, South Dakota. Though he doesn't list it on his public resume, around 2006 Arends went to work for Craig Dewey, the state director of Americans for Prosperity, an advocacy outfit that's Astroturfed everything from the tea party and the Wisconsin union fight to public-school segregation. (AFP's nonprofit 501(c)3 wing is chaired by David Koch, who founded the Americans for Prosperity Foundation with his brother Charles.)

After leaving AFP, Arends and Dewey went into business starting "grassroots" issue groups whose names tended to overstate their reach. There was Combat Veterans for Congress, a Sarah Palin-endorsed PAC that pushed "fiscally conservative" vets to run for office; the Coalition for Cures Not Cloning, set up to combat stem-cell research; and Children Need Parents, a group that succeeded in altering the South Dakota's mom-friendly divorce and custody laws. They also oversaw efforts to roll back EPA regulations, punish businesses that dealt with Iran, and ban sharia law in South Dakota. "Our strength is grassroots organizing," Arends explains. "I love bringing people together."

In 2007, Arends became the executive director of Veterans for Freedom (VFF), whose members fought Obama's Supreme Court nominations, coordinated campaigns for right-wing candidates like Florida Rep. Allen West, and freaked out about the prospect of Islamic law being implemented in America. Arends' job included recruiting vets and flying them, expenses-paid, to Washington, DC, to attend events like the "Vets Take the Hill" rally with Republican members of Congress and Sen. Joe Lieberman in April 2008.


read more: http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/swift-boat-obama-bin-laden-video

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Meet the astroturfer planning to swift boat Obama (Original Post) bigtree May 2012 OP
First though this might be Metta style call-out... JNelson6563 May 2012 #1
Same here. FSogol May 2012 #2
What is a metta style call out? TIA for any input uponit7771 May 2012 #4
Obama's camp needs to dig up whatever dirt they can on this guy peace frog May 2012 #3
Paging Larry Flynt. . .Paging Larry Flynt DinahMoeHum May 2012 #21
Posted on Facebook. mmonk May 2012 #5
These assholes would have swiftboated Eisenhower aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #6
Yes, they need to be reminded klook May 2012 #8
"Grassroots" has lost all meaning LiberalLovinLug May 2012 #7
These assholes Iliyah May 2012 #9
Ahem maxrandb May 2012 #10
Hoping they are better Worried senior May 2012 #11
well, bigtree May 2012 #12
Good for them politicasista May 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista May 2012 #16
Know thy enemy LASlibinSC May 2012 #13
yep Rambis May 2012 #14
How many times did you hear the GOP using 9/11??? Thousands. judesedit May 2012 #15
He's a political op madmax May 2012 #18
Come on Mr. President...........start fighting this excuse Smilo May 2012 #19
He needs to realize that these people crawled out of the sewers... 47of74 May 2012 #24
Sorry that Swift Boat bullshit might have worked in 2004 but not with Romney as your candidate. Initech May 2012 #20
It matters not one whit that Romney is the RW candidate this go-round peace frog May 2012 #27
Just more swiftboat Liars Whoring for their Corporatist Pimps n/t LarryNM May 2012 #22
first Ive seen of this vid. I laughed. Probably wont be as funny when the media starts asking if GusFring May 2012 #23
If the media The Wizard May 2012 #25
Romoney is a cin63 May 2012 #26
The biggest nightmare for ReTHUGs is that malaise May 2012 #28

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
3. Obama's camp needs to dig up whatever dirt they can on this guy
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:07 PM
May 2012

and hit 'em back hard. No quarter, EVER.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
6. These assholes would have swiftboated Eisenhower
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:14 PM
May 2012

Eisenhower wouldn't even be considered a Republican today. Eisenhower used images of D-Day in his campaigns for President, taking credit for conquering Hitler. Republican swift boat ads probably would have pointed out that Ike sat at a desk throughout the war and neer pulled a trigger.

But what can they do to Obama? In the case of Kerry, they said he lied about the two incidents where he won silver stars. They even did a minor swiftboating during that 2004 campaign (such as comments by Rush Limbaugh and others on the radio) saying that Wesley Clark's silver star was unmerited. In this case regarding bin Laden the facts can't be disputed. All they can say is that they don't like the fact that Obama used the raid in a campaign ad. I don't think the American people will care.

klook

(12,151 posts)
8. Yes, they need to be reminded
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:39 PM
May 2012

that they supported a president who bragged about his accomplishments when he HAD DONE NOTHING!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
7. "Grassroots" has lost all meaning
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:38 PM
May 2012

Like "low fat" or "organic" the word is just slapped onto whatever agenda an organization wants to promote.
It has no meaning anymore.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
12. well,
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:57 PM
May 2012

. . . their campaign did highlight this nifty article on their website for us to mull over. Jim Messina and crew don't look to miss a beat.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
17. Good for them
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:36 PM
May 2012

Unfortunately people will still use the swiftboating experience to slam Kerry to praise Obama. Glad they are on the ball though.

Response to Worried senior (Reply #11)

madmax

(16,612 posts)
18. He's a political op
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:29 PM
May 2012

Heard a bit on Politics Nation. Obama camp better get out in front of this unlike Kerry. This is total b.s. The ad is completely taken out of context. Glad 30 Rock with Brian Williams came out before this gets too out of hand.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
19. Come on Mr. President...........start fighting this excuse
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:31 PM
May 2012

for a human being NOW - don't be nice - you can't be nice - you have to fight fire with fire and go on the offensive - don't make the mistake of taking the high ground - with people like Arends there is no high ground and they will just go on attacking and attacking.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
24. He needs to realize that these people crawled out of the sewers...
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:18 AM
May 2012

...so maybe the gutter is where we need to be now.

Initech

(100,013 posts)
20. Sorry that Swift Boat bullshit might have worked in 2004 but not with Romney as your candidate.
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:33 PM
May 2012

Romney is way too devisive even among conservatives for that crap to work again.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
27. It matters not one whit that Romney is the RW candidate this go-round
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:43 AM
May 2012

Being swiftboated is a fact of political campaign life for Dems. It should be thoroughly anticipated, the response planned for in advance and made ready to put into action. Dig up dirt on the swiftboaters and put it out there loud and proud. Hit 'em back hard and often.

 

GusFring

(756 posts)
23. first Ive seen of this vid. I laughed. Probably wont be as funny when the media starts asking if
Fri May 4, 2012, 11:48 PM
May 2012

Obama is spiking the football and it eventually becomes a talking point. But right now it looks weak.

Karl Rove is a real asshole though. I really cant find anything to like about him.

The Wizard

(12,527 posts)
25. If the media
Sat May 5, 2012, 04:49 PM
May 2012

picks this up and runs with it like it did with the Swift boat ads, making them appear as news they should be declared enemies of the United States. Hang this albatross around Romney's neck until it rots off. Republicans deserve to be ridiculed and swamped in the election.

malaise

(268,573 posts)
28. The biggest nightmare for ReTHUGs is that
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:46 AM
May 2012

Obama took out Bin Laden. No amount of swift boating will change that.
These fuckers will destroy every institution in the name of power. This time they will fail.

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