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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Fri May 4, 2012, 12:20 PM May 2012

Notes on Fukushima Forum Spent Fuel Pool 4 danger / media blackout - still live on Ustream 12:20est

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/test-erf#utm_campaign=enformable.com&utm_source=10554088&utm_medium=social

(showing slides)

This is the housing of reactor no. 4

As you can see because of hydro explosion building demolished sides blown off

The problem occurs because floor below has been damaged and
wall destroyed.

The spent fuel is here (lower down)

A large amount of radioactive material has fallen to bottom of pool

So if this wall comes off (tremor/earthquake) and pool were to be exposed
this material would come out with nothing to hold it in

That is why tepco is at this moment working to remove radioactive material
to another location outside

In this condition it is not possible
to remove spent fuel...

So tepco is dismantling the whole building
Tepco planning to build another building around
then install another crane.

It will take a year and a half

Many years require to hoist out fuel

Fuel may be damaged and difficult to remove

Humanity has never encountered anything like this

Please join me in hoping and praying there is not no aftershock that
occurs at that time


US JOURNALIST: I feel ashamed that this room is not overflowing with media


I was struck by your presentations that there is a mass media blackout
on this emergency

The US press code prevented press from understanding what really
happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki too

So that the nuclear industry went forward without this knowledge

What can we do to bring attention to this in the USA?

What advice would you give to bring your message to a broader public?

Moderator: I will note that 1600 are watching on the internet, it may be that as in Japan
where progress was made by citizen activists, might be the same here.


Answer: i am not media expert but the mass media cannot operate w/o sponsors

Unfortunately, most media in Japan have Tepco as a sponsor

We need to change that system ... they are also relying on media, Facebook in particular,
we think this is the way we'll have to use the media.

So it's all up to us. If we don't as citizens bring pressure to bear this will be poorly
handled by a corrupt and incompetent company - Tepco.











Speakers:

Hiroaki Koide, Nuclear Reactor Specialist and Assistant Professor at Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute. After realizing in 1970 that nuclear power was extremely dangerous, Mr. Koide dedicated over 40 years of his career to educate the nuclear industry and the general public to stop nuclear reactors in Japan. After the nuclear disaster in Fukushima, he gained “rock star” status due to his tireless efforts in providing detailed analysis and honest suggestions to the Japanese community about the extent of the disaster. He will speak about the extremely dangerous conditions at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, including the concerns regarding the damaged Unit 4 irradiated fuel pool.

Dr. Junro Fuse, Internist and head of Kosugi Medical Clinic near Tokyo, Japan. In June 2011, he started to use social media as the main tool to educate the general public on risks associated with radiation exposure. He will discuss unusual medical symptoms among their patients after the nuclear accidents, issues within the Japanese medical communities to protect citizens from the disaster, health risks in association to the burning of radioactive tsunami debris and his concerns with the current food safety standards in Japan.

Dr. Ken Nakayama, Orthopedic Surgeon from Japan. Following the 3/11 earthquake, he entered the exclusion zone in Fukushima for three days as a member of the government’s Disaster Medical Assistance Team to rescue patients abandoned at a hospital. In December 2011, he spoke in a press conference in Osaka along with Dr. Fuse in opposition to the government policy for incinerating tsunami rubbles across the country.

Dr. Andrew S. Kanter, President of the Board of Directors of Physicians for Social Responsibility, has studied radioactive plume projections from nuclear reactor accident scenarios and other public health impacts of nuclear radiation dispersion. He is the director of Health Information Systems/Medical Informatics for the Millennium Villages Project for the Earth Institute at Columbia University as well as an Asst. Prof. for Clinical Biomedical Informatics and Clinical Epidemiology at Columbia University. Will speak about the need for accurate and timely information regarding exposure to radioactivity in order to protect and promote public health.
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Notes on Fukushima Forum Spent Fuel Pool 4 danger / media blackout - still live on Ustream 12:20est (Original Post) flamingdem May 2012 OP
Hey! Ted said something ignorant, you expect anyone to care about this?! Mnemosyne May 2012 #1
Ha, exactly. Mass extinction vs. momentary stimulation flamingdem May 2012 #2
Extinction behavior is rampant, sadly. Most people I've spoken with believe Fukushima Mnemosyne May 2012 #6
Is this going to be available for viewing later? nt bananas May 2012 #3
There are on going aftershocks.... Javaman May 2012 #4
Arne Gunderson's radio/audio interview page. PearliePoo2 May 2012 #5
Oh no...more fodder for my increasing nightmares. BeHereNow May 2012 #7
Well...look at it this way.... PearliePoo2 May 2012 #8
That's not a complete list - he was just on both KPBS TV and radio just last week bananas May 2012 #9

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. Ha, exactly. Mass extinction vs. momentary stimulation
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:08 PM
May 2012

We humans pick the latter!

Hey did you hear about that motorcycle going a zillion miles an hour!!!???

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
6. Extinction behavior is rampant, sadly. Most people I've spoken with believe Fukushima
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:54 PM
May 2012

was over last year and are stunned to learn the seriousness of it.

Then they may watch American Idol...

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
4. There are on going aftershocks....
Fri May 4, 2012, 02:57 PM
May 2012

let's just hope there are no new quakes or a sizable aftershock.

Cripes talk about living on a razors edge.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
5. Arne Gunderson's radio/audio interview page.
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:27 PM
May 2012

The interviews on April 24th and April 15th are the latest updates on Fukushima. They are professionally done, very informative but....make sure you are sitting down.

http://www.fairewinds.com/radio

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
7. Oh no...more fodder for my increasing nightmares.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:06 PM
May 2012

I'm listening, I know I shouldn't, but I am.
Truth is there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it.





Thanks for posting the link.
I think.

BHN

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
8. Well...look at it this way....
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:53 PM
May 2012

You'll be the most informed kid on the block!
I have to say though, when I bring up Fukushima in a conversation, people look at me incredulously. Most think it's all neatly tied up and taken care of. And I don't come off as an alarmist, just as factual and calmly as I can.
Most of the time, I caution friends to check "Country of Origin" on their purchases of foodstuffs.
They are "getting" that part now, especially my tea and sushi loving friends.(nori seaweed wraps)
But, Arne's warning of the radiation deposits on the West Coast and the Cascade Mountains really concerns me.
I'm a seafood loving person too, and it just PISSES me off that I may have to fore-go my most favorite meals.
Damn...it's really criminal.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
9. That's not a complete list - he was just on both KPBS TV and radio just last week
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:29 PM
May 2012

He was on KPBS TV for 5 minutes,
and on KPBS FM for 20 minutes.
Archives and transcripts here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101724891

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