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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:10 PM May 2012

Mitt Romney’s Eldest Son Has Twins Via Surrogate


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O’HARA, Pa. – Tagg Romney, the eldest son of presidential candidate Mitt Romney, announced via Twitter that he and his wife Jen have new twin boys, delivered by a surrogate today.

“Happy 2 announce birth of twin boys David Mitt and William Ryder. Big thanks to our surrogate. Life is a miracle,” Tagg tweeting, linking to a photo of himself and one of his new sons.

This the second time that Tagg, 42, and his wife, Jen,39, have used a surrogate. The same surrogate was used for the twins carried their youngest son Jonathan, who was born in August of 2010. Their other three children were not born via surrogacy.

On Facebook, Tagg gave even more details about the birth, confirming that the twins are his biological children. “Jen and I are happy to announce the birth of twin boys, David Mitt and William Ryder,” he wrote. “Everyone is healthy and happy. They weighed in at 5 lbs 13 oz and 19-3/4 inches and 6 lbs. 13 oz and 19 inches. A special thanks to our gestational surrogate who made this possible for us. Life truly is a miracle, and we feel so blessed to be able to celebrate the arrival of these precious boys into our family. For those keeping score at home, these are grandchildren numbers 17 and 18 for my parents.”

According to the official handbook of the Church of Latter Day Saints, to which the Romney’s are members, surrogacy is not encouraged. “The Church strongly discourages surrogate motherhood,” the handbook reads.

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Mitt Romney’s Eldest Son Has Twins Via Surrogate (Original Post) cali May 2012 OP
At least the kids get normal names treestar May 2012 #1
they had three kids normally. why the hell did they need three more so badly cali May 2012 #2
There are a lot of reasons for it Warpy May 2012 #5
Warpy, I almost always agree with you siligut May 2012 #57
Romneys adult son is not running - nor does his father FreeState May 2012 #62
When Mitt Romney decides that women's reproductive decisions are none of his business... Hippo_Tron May 2012 #69
Secondary infertility happens. LeftyMom May 2012 #13
If I had the money to pay Sedona May 2012 #37
so that they can reach the top level of heaven blueamy66 May 2012 #42
Overpopulation? Mormons have no concern. siligut May 2012 #56
I just don't get it. blueamy66 May 2012 #58
Large families are one way to increase membership/revenue/power siligut May 2012 #61
There are ALOT of Mormons here in AZ. blueamy66 May 2012 #64
They're Mormons customerserviceguy May 2012 #44
Interesting thought treestar May 2012 #50
Yeah, got the idea customerserviceguy May 2012 #60
This is 100% false n/t FreeState May 2012 #63
What's false? customerserviceguy May 2012 #72
Mormon church ain't growing through converts Capt. Obvious May 2012 #49
Tagg and ted nugent are hunting partners! yortsed snacilbuper May 2012 #12
Oh yeah? The elephant mutilating one? notadmblnd May 2012 #32
His Son Will Get A Church Promotion Now rsmith6621 May 2012 #3
They discourage surrogate motherhood? Aerows May 2012 #4
wouldn't this offend evangelicals? IcyPeas May 2012 #6
they did concieve naturally. they have 3 kids born the old fashioned way. cali May 2012 #7
Oh god. He loses the Catholic Bishops vote. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #8
Is this how they cover-up an extramarital affair or a second wife? n/t Ian David May 2012 #9
Surrogate? Bobcat May 2012 #10
in 3...2...1 Sedona May 2012 #39
The Freepers must have thought they used a turkey baster... Historic NY May 2012 #43
WOW - the love is certainly thick in freeperville groundloop May 2012 #70
I am assuming the "surrogate" is a sister wife. #2. kestrel91316 May 2012 #11
Yup, I agree. This is a sister wife. I hope the media really digs on this. nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #33
So the "surrogate" had sex with Tagg? CTyankee May 2012 #66
"Sister wife" is Mormon-speak for a plural wife in a kestrel91316 May 2012 #71
Nice catch! Sedona May 2012 #38
Good for them. LeftyMom May 2012 #14
Of course Mitt's been totally hands off OTHER'S personal family decisions.... riderinthestorm May 2012 #15
Yeah, getting in other people's crotches sucks. So we shouldn't. LeftyMom May 2012 #17
Personal family planning choices in this country have LONG gone by the wayside riderinthestorm May 2012 #25
So you're going to intrusive and judgmental views of other people's family formation. LeftyMom May 2012 #29
Politics is not kind or decent. If the Edwards trial, or rMoney's attack on Obama @ Bin Ladin riderinthestorm May 2012 #34
Wow. LeftyMom May 2012 #36
Ignore away! Complaining that we're beating up on the rMoney's sister wife riderinthestorm May 2012 #40
Thank you. You said exactly what I was thinking. All of it. Butterbean May 2012 #59
I agree. Thousands of reasons to disapprove of Mitt without involving his grandkids. n/t FSogol May 2012 #16
Or kicking his daughter in law while she's down. LeftyMom May 2012 #18
fertility issues? She had three kids. cali May 2012 #20
As I said, it's secondary infertility. LeftyMom May 2012 #23
They are not infertile. They have 3 children. They are entering their 40s and it's not uncommon riderinthestorm May 2012 #26
How do you know she has secondary infertility? cali May 2012 #52
She does not have a fertility issue! They have 3 children already! nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #22
Yes she does. Nobody has a surrogate pregnancy for fun. LeftyMom May 2012 #24
This is not infertility! They have 3 children already! riderinthestorm May 2012 #27
She was 37 for the last one. LeftyMom May 2012 #35
When or IF Rethugs let women choose their OWN family planning riderinthestorm May 2012 #41
uh, fertile women do indeed use surrogates cali May 2012 #51
I find it kind of strange that we are all about choice until someone we don't like Arkansas Granny May 2012 #19
I'm not saying they don't have the right to do it. cali May 2012 #21
Good for them, but what about God's will? maybe they were not meant to have more rustydog May 2012 #28
Conversely, maybe it was God's will that they WERE to have more, and surrogacy was the only way. cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #31
how about adoption? cali May 2012 #48
A surrogate or a second wife? notadmblnd May 2012 #30
You don't actually know that. Chorophyll May 2012 #54
I did not state it as fact. You can tell by the punctuation. notadmblnd May 2012 #65
I didn't see a question mark in the body of your message. Chorophyll May 2012 #68
Congratulations to them - lynne May 2012 #45
they have the means to love and support them more power to them. demtenjeep May 2012 #46
They have the means to adopt children who need a home. cali May 2012 #53
If the Obamas had opted for surrogacy, Rush would be trumpeting "baby buying". no_hypocrisy May 2012 #47
That's actually pretty nice news. I hope the kids grow up to be Democrats Bucky May 2012 #55
Because stretch marks are for the little people. 11 Bravo May 2012 #67
Mormons don't believe in oral sex either. Major Hogwash May 2012 #73
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. they had three kids normally. why the hell did they need three more so badly
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:14 PM
May 2012

they hired a surrogate?

siligut

(12,272 posts)
57. Warpy, I almost always agree with you
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:05 PM
May 2012

But when it comes to a Mormon presidential nominee, we have to examine what effect his religion would have on his ability to perform his job. OK, this is assuming that the reason for a large family is because of religion. Maybe it isn't, but I am willing to bet it is.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
62. Romneys adult son is not running - nor does his father
Sat May 5, 2012, 04:13 PM
May 2012

Decide how he has children - that's my guess.

Seriously, who cares? There are so many issues with Romney to pick on, his adult kids choices of how to conceive a family seems silly and misguided in a big way.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
69. When Mitt Romney decides that women's reproductive decisions are none of his business...
Sat May 5, 2012, 08:32 PM
May 2012

I'll decide that the reproductive decisions of his family members, that actively campaign for him, are none of my business.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
37. If I had the money to pay
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:44 PM
May 2012

someone else to carry my three children I would have. IMHO being pregnant and child birth suck big time. I might have missed the enjoyment and bonding of breast feeding though.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
42. so that they can reach the top level of heaven
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:06 PM
May 2012

gotta have a boatload of kids to get to the best Mormon heaven....

siligut

(12,272 posts)
56. Overpopulation? Mormons have no concern.
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:01 PM
May 2012

Population control is for the gentiles. Mormons have to populate whole planets after they leave this Earth.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
61. Large families are one way to increase membership/revenue/power
Sat May 5, 2012, 03:46 PM
May 2012

I agree with you about live and let live, but the Mormons are taught to believe they need to insinuate themselves into our lives. They believe theirs is the only true religion and lack respect for others and their beliefs. I never felt so negative about a religion until I lived and worked in Salt Lake City, Utah.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
64. There are ALOT of Mormons here in AZ.
Sat May 5, 2012, 04:31 PM
May 2012

I grew up with them and have worked with them and have "family" that are Mormon.

I don't agree with most of their beliefs, but can kinda understand them. They do take care of eachother.

I was at my sister in law's parents' house one Sunday when the missionaries came over to talk. I sat there with my newborn great nephew in my lap and listened and then told them I was raised Catholic and went to 13 yrs of Catholic school and respect their beliefs but don't agree with their teachings and think that they do not value women. They just looked at me with big eyes and I got up and left the room with the baby. Interesting....

A friend of mine was engaged to a Mormon guy who had just returned from his mission. She sat down with me and another friend and asked us what she was supposed to do on her wedding night. This was a 22 yr old woman. It was kinda fun.......

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
44. They're Mormons
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:08 PM
May 2012

They believe that the more children a man has, the higher the level of afterlife they achieve. In the "good old days" that used to be with multiple wives, now they have to do it with one wife, and as many surrogates as they can afford to hire.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
60. Yeah, got the idea
Sat May 5, 2012, 03:15 PM
May 2012

from a Mormon friend of mine who's been married about four times. Each time, he got "sealed for all time and eternity" to a woman, but if he divorced her, and she wanted to remarry that way, she'd have to get a special dispensation from the church, which required his permission. I remarked that it seemed like serial polygamy, and he didn't object to my calling it that.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
72. What's false?
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:35 PM
May 2012

That they're not Mormons, or that there isn't some belief in number-of-spirit-babies determines level-of-heaven? I can find proof for the latter, although it may not be sold as hard as it was in the olden days.

rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
3. His Son Will Get A Church Promotion Now
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:18 PM
May 2012


....I guess TWO more MOONS as well..... GREED nice that the silver spoon Mitts son was born with that they can afford to do that....
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
4. They discourage surrogate motherhood?
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:24 PM
May 2012

I guess that makes sense. Why have a surrogate when you can just add a wife?

IcyPeas

(21,866 posts)
6. wouldn't this offend evangelicals?
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:34 PM
May 2012

if they can't conceive naturally isn't that what god wants. I hope they don't have sex for pleasure now.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. Of course Mitt's been totally hands off OTHER'S personal family decisions....
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:49 PM
May 2012

Mitt rMoney is all about telling OTHER families what the hell to do with their pregnancies...

... so why is his family suddenly off limits?


http://jezebel.com/5875237/compassionate-mitt-romney-told-unmarried-woman-shed-go-to-hell-if-she-kept-her-baby


Or his injection of his own personal vendetta against women and their doctors, who want the same personal family planning choices for themselves in regards to abortion (or not).

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
17. Yeah, getting in other people's crotches sucks. So we shouldn't.
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:55 PM
May 2012

"But he did it first!" is an excuse for five year olds.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. Personal family planning choices in this country have LONG gone by the wayside
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:07 PM
May 2012

with the right's war on privacy about a woman's health care choices.

Mitt wants things both ways. In a presidential election that's bullshit.

When it comes to Mitt's family it's "personal". When it comes to others' families its okay for government intrusion?

Sorry, no way. Publicly this does not get a pass when the hypocrisy is so blatant.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
29. So you're going to intrusive and judgmental views of other people's family formation.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:17 PM
May 2012

I guess that's one way to go, but aside from it being exactly what we're trying to prevent, does it strike you as the kind and decent thing to do?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
34. Politics is not kind or decent. If the Edwards trial, or rMoney's attack on Obama @ Bin Ladin
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:28 PM
May 2012

hasn't persuaded you then I could point you to a plethora of past insensitive bullshit.

rMoney's sons have endorsed the killing of OTHER people's children in Iraq and Afghanistan while declining to go themselves. They aren't "kind" or "decent" by that fact alone.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
36. Wow.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:32 PM
May 2012

I think I'm going to put you on ignore, because if you're that eager to beat the Republicans in a race to the moral bottom, I really don't want to hear about it.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
40. Ignore away! Complaining that we're beating up on the rMoney's sister wife
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:00 PM
May 2012

because we're at the "moral bottom" is fine with me. You won't be the first or last so go right ahead.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
18. Or kicking his daughter in law while she's down.
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:57 PM
May 2012

Life is hard enough for a Mormon woman with a fertility issue.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. fertility issues? She had three kids.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:00 PM
May 2012

and I'm not knocking Mitt's grandchildren. I'm knocking his adult son.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
23. As I said, it's secondary infertility.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:04 PM
May 2012
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=secondary+infertility

If she had a medical issue that precluded getting pregnant or carrying a pregnancy to term again, she's infertile. Have a heart.
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
26. They are not infertile. They have 3 children. They are entering their 40s and it's not uncommon
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:13 PM
May 2012

for anyone to experience a loss of childbearing capability in that age range.

These are just greedy mofos who wanted more children. In spite of their church's dictates against this type of insemination, they've become cafeteria Mormons and decided to bypass church rules.

THAT is news, especially when Rethugs want to dictate family planning for everyone else. Especially when its religiously oriented

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
24. Yes she does. Nobody has a surrogate pregnancy for fun.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:06 PM
May 2012
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=secondary+infertility

Please show these people some compassion. Politics aside, infertility sucks.
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
27. This is not infertility! They have 3 children already!
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:14 PM
May 2012

Please stop trying to conflate REAL infertility with this. The rMoney's are simply getting older and finding it's more difficult to conceive. They are 39 and 42 years old. Sometimes that happens.

The pain of real infertility is NOT this and having known couples in their early 20s who discover their infertility and really have dealt with that pain, this is nothing like that. This is a wealthy, older couple who simply want to fulfill the Mormon ideal of a big family (despicably, against all environmental warnings) who have access to a young woman and the best medical care to keep up the church's ridiculous dictates.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
35. She was 37 for the last one.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

Maybe she had to have a hysterectomy or something, I'd assume so because that's really early to not be able to get pregnant anymore, especially with three successful pregnancies before that. It's not easy for a woman who can't have more kids in a culture that places such an emphasis on that, especially if she had no reason to expect it.

I wouldn't have six kids for love or money, but if they wanted to I'm glad they had the option. Let it go.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
41. When or IF Rethugs let women choose their OWN family planning
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:02 PM
May 2012

then I will let it go.

Until then, I call them out on ALL hypocrisy when it comes to family decision making (and especially when it concerns their moral or religious hypocrisy, or the lack thereof)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
51. uh, fertile women do indeed use surrogates
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:53 AM
May 2012

and what the fuck does compassion have to do with it? I don't know that they used a surrogate because of infertility and neither do you. Even if they did, there are plenty of kids to be adopted in this country. They have three of their own.

Fuck the Romneys.

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
19. I find it kind of strange that we are all about choice until someone we don't like
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012

exercises their choice.

Congratulations to the Romney family and I hope the babies thrive.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. I'm not saying they don't have the right to do it.
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:01 PM
May 2012

see the difference? It's pretty flippin' obvious.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
65. I did not state it as fact. You can tell by the punctuation.
Sat May 5, 2012, 06:15 PM
May 2012

. = a statement. ?= a question. Anything else?

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
68. I didn't see a question mark in the body of your message.
Sat May 5, 2012, 08:27 PM
May 2012

I just think speculating on other people's reproductive choices is best left to the Republicans. But whatever, pal.

lynne

(3,118 posts)
45. Congratulations to them -
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:10 PM
May 2012

- as I feel that a family addition is a reason for celebration.

Leave children and grandchildren out of the political sniping. We want and expect that same treatment for the Obama family. If we don't practice what we preach then . . . well . . . we're the very same as "them".

Bucky

(54,005 posts)
55. That's actually pretty nice news. I hope the kids grow up to be Democrats
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:00 PM
May 2012

But even Republican babies are cute.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
73. Mormons don't believe in oral sex either.
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:51 PM
May 2012

So, that's not good for the rest of the nation.
Because Romney sucks!!

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