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Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:28 PM Apr 2015

I'm a Caucasion, and therefore have a view based on my personal experiences (I'm 60 yrs OLD).

#1 - I find that bigots are programmed by their parents and/or respected friends and contacts.
#2 - I believe that all human beings should have inalienable rights. Those rights include not being ostracized for having different sexual norms.
#3 - I believe we need to go back to a liberal education model.
#4 - I believe bigots and racists should be ineligible for federal office.
#5 - If I ever come face-2-face with Ted Nugent, he'd better be well armed. All i need is my fists. Can anyone say "douchebagel"?

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I'm a Caucasion, and therefore have a view based on my personal experiences (I'm 60 yrs OLD). (Original Post) Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 OP
Nice list. bravenak Apr 2015 #1
Good List except for #4 QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #37
Hey Elmer, I'm a little older white man safeinOhio Apr 2015 #2
I think when you ascertain a certain level of enlightenment Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #6
why close to death? Duppers Apr 2015 #13
Well, it certainly depends on several factors, I was just stating my own personal experience. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #18
Terrific list, appeciate the post. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #3
I wonder if the bigots thinks they have the right to "control" others. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #4
Sounds like you have it figured out! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #10
61 year old white female agrees with one exception. SamKnause Apr 2015 #5
Excellent correction! Myhatred superseded my conciseness. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #8
I try my best not to hate, SamKnause Apr 2015 #9
Unfortunately, the world has already been bought up Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #17
Yes, and that's why we need more people educated and involved. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #23
You mean the CheeseWeasel? Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #26
I ask this, but please do not think DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #28
I've wondered the same thing about Wisconsin. maddiemom Apr 2015 #35
As a liberal from Madison Pharaoh Apr 2015 #43
#4 - I believe bigots and racists should be ineligible for federal office. Martin Eden Apr 2015 #7
Have to agree. I think Obama derangement brought a lot of racist bigots out from under their rocks peacebird Apr 2015 #11
I avoid them like the plague. If they tell me how religious they are, they just lost the RKP5637 Apr 2015 #15
Just know that they have been identified. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #19
Agree wholeheartedly! maddiemom Apr 2015 #36
Nugent's like a sea cucumber: his only real defense agianst humans was voiding his bowels MisterP Apr 2015 #12
I will not say what I was going to say. Not a big fan. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #20
He's a true unwashed asshole Major Nikon Apr 2015 #22
now thats funny. aikoaiko Apr 2015 #31
Yep! Right on! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #14
I can. I can type it also douchebagel. Snotcicles Apr 2015 #16
Well, you're too young for me, but you're my kind o'Liberal! ;-) WinkyDink Apr 2015 #21
I think that's a compliment. LOL Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #24
DOUCHEBAGEL. calimary Apr 2015 #25
I love your list JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #27
I'm OLDer than you are and spent some of my growing up Warpy Apr 2015 #29
Thanks. Warpy! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #30
Right on, Elmer S. E. Dump!! raven mad Apr 2015 #32
K and R. nt cwydro Apr 2015 #33
How can it be The Jungle 1 Apr 2015 #34
Douchebagel is the new Wonder Bread! Quantess Apr 2015 #38
As a 70 yr old Black woman.... Stellar Apr 2015 #39
Agree with you. One small request...could we find another appropriate term to replace libdem4life Apr 2015 #40
I agree with you 100%, libdem4life ailsagirl Apr 2015 #41
Kind of like "Here we go again.", but honestly I don't think many who use the words libdem4life Apr 2015 #42
Ah... troglodyte... ailsagirl Apr 2015 #44
Nugent has a *special* place in my *heart* pinboy3niner Apr 2015 #45
 

QuestionAlways

(259 posts)
37. Good List except for #4
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:13 PM
Apr 2015
4- I believe bigots and racists should be ineligible for federal office.


Everybody MUST have equal rights, no exceptions, even fools

safeinOhio

(32,271 posts)
2. Hey Elmer, I'm a little older white man
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:39 PM
Apr 2015

born in Arkansas and I'm thankful for my education and my search for truth all of my life. I have evolved over the years. I agree whole heartedly with you.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
6. I think when you ascertain a certain level of enlightenment
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:46 PM
Apr 2015

It will occur relatively close to your death. That's why it's imperative for people to speak out, particularly those with an existing platform to speak from.

Duppers

(28,074 posts)
13. why close to death?
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 05:25 PM
Apr 2015

In a couple of yrs I'll be 70 but my greatest level of enlightenment was reached 4 decades ago.



 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
18. Well, it certainly depends on several factors, I was just stating my own personal experience.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 05:55 PM
Apr 2015

And, no, I'm not dying or anything. I just turned 60 and I woke up again today!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. I wonder if the bigots thinks they have the right to "control" others.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:44 PM
Apr 2015

When I close my doors at the end of the day I am not concerned about my neighbors bed room activity or the lack of activity. If two people are happy together and there isn't any violence I am happy for them.

Some of the religious right people told my niece to return to a marriage where there was violence against her and her children, that it is wrong to divorce. She did not follow their instruction.

I am sure many learn from their parents to be bigoted but as an adult we must make our own way, form our own opinion. Yes, I have evolved. It was actually easy.

SamKnause

(12,964 posts)
9. I try my best not to hate,
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 05:01 PM
Apr 2015

but Ted Nugent and his ilk (Fox News, religious fanatics, lunatic fringe Republicans, etc.) continue to make it a constant battle.

I just wish they would all pool their money and buy a country.

This country would thrive without their hate, divisiveness, greed, and intentional ignorance.



Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
17. Unfortunately, the world has already been bought up
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 05:49 PM
Apr 2015

by the giant octopi that are the international corporations and banksters. Nothing left for these poor schlubs--well, not the follower types anyway. Their leaders continue to rip them off & blame it on the {{dog whistle}} welfare people, limousine liberals, and soshulists.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
23. Yes, and that's why we need more people educated and involved.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:10 PM
Apr 2015

But living in WI myself, it's looking pretty bleak thanks to (I won't even state his name).

DonCoquixote

(13,610 posts)
28. I ask this, but please do not think
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015

I am trying to be a jerk.

How did Wisconsin go from being one of the more liberal states to Scott Walker Land? I say this because I remember the good old days when something Wisconsin did gave Rush Slimeball a fit, much to my delight! Solid Union state, solid Liberal Universities. I say this because Walker and Christie mains goals to fame is that they can make a Blue State go red. The reverse is a lot harder, mostly thanks to the Alison Grimes and Charlie Crists of the world who think being slightly right of Obama is much more left than Ol Dixie can handle, and the fact our Churches have enough cash and manpower to hamstring government.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
43. As a liberal from Madison
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:18 AM
Apr 2015

It has been painfully difficult to watch. But the rural areas have always been red.

the main factors, I think and not necessarily in this order.

Redistricting and gerrymandering of legislative districts

Rush Limbaugh

Fox news

Citizens united

The Koch brothers

ALEC

Americans for prosperity, etc, etc , etc......

Mostly what is going on nationally but with an intense focus.

Their theory is/was as Wisconsin goes, so goes the world.

We were a test case. More states to follow..........

Martin Eden

(12,750 posts)
7. #4 - I believe bigots and racists should be ineligible for federal office.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:49 PM
Apr 2015

I believe America will be on the path to redemption only when bigots and racists have no chance of winning elections.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
11. Have to agree. I think Obama derangement brought a lot of racist bigots out from under their rocks
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 05:15 PM
Apr 2015

Hate radio has made them feel free to speak out. I say if a company wants to have "religious freedumb" to discriminate, then they need to post notice prominently on website, ads and front door. Until they do, I will have to avoid any company that posts the fish logo under the assumption that they support said "religious freedumb"

RKP5637

(66,959 posts)
15. I avoid them like the plague. If they tell me how religious they are, they just lost the
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 05:29 PM
Apr 2015

bid for my work.

Warpy

(110,518 posts)
29. I'm OLDer than you are and spent some of my growing up
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:24 PM
Apr 2015

in the Jim Crow south. I knew it was wrong, I hated it, but I'm wise enough to know that no one in that situation can escape all bigotry. They served it to us on our lunch trays, mixed into the topping on the cardboard pizza. It was everywhere.

You bet it's programmed. Some of us have spent a lifetime fighting it, inside and out.

As for Nugent, I'd just walk away giggling and twiddling a forefinger next to a temple. The man needs to be laughed at. Desperately.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
39. As a 70 yr old Black woman....
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:36 PM
Apr 2015

I can say that I like your list and, I'm fed up with seeing my black babies and brothers dying in the streets. I'm glad you don't have to put up with it, It hurts so bad.









 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
40. Agree with you. One small request...could we find another appropriate term to replace
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:11 PM
Apr 2015

"douchebag" or other iteration? I'm assuming people know what the real item is, what it's used for, and referring to it as a perjorative, well, it's time we left it behind us. I have a douche bag and it is not a person.

It's just not this post, so not picking on anybody. It's way too common and there's got to be another synonym to describe "disgusting" and "offensive".

I'd like to include this under #3 ... "liberal education"

Thanks.

ailsagirl

(22,824 posts)
41. I agree with you 100%, libdem4life
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:00 PM
Apr 2015

I have found it offensive ever since the expression was coined and I wince every time I come across it. Surely with the wealth of words in the English language we can come up with something that's more appropriate?

birdbrain
nitwit
dimwit
dolt
dope
dummy
dunce
fool
idiot
nutjob
lunatic
jerk
moron
cretin
lamebrain
scum
simpleton

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
42. Kind of like "Here we go again.", but honestly I don't think many who use the words
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 09:15 AM
Apr 2015

has a clue to the item it refers to and that it is absolutely sexist and not worthy of the 21st Century lexicon of terms. I'm going to educate folks, from here on out, when it's used because we here at DU are better than that.

And I thank you for your support

(Personally, I like cretin and troglodyte. Cretin is easier to spell, but everything takes practice.)

ailsagirl

(22,824 posts)
44. Ah... troglodyte...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:28 PM
Apr 2015

is a marvelous word!!!

I used to watch "Frasier," not just for its delightful wit, but for the imaginative vocabulary the characters used-- mostly Fasier and Niles. The writers were obviously a creative bunch.



ALSO:

boor
clod
ignoramus
lout

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
45. Nugent has a *special* place in my *heart*
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:16 AM
Apr 2015

We took our draft physicals the same year. A lot of my friends never made it back from Vietnam, and I very nearly didn't make it.

Fuck Ted Nugent.

R.I.P. to my fallen brothers.



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